Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

[LeParisien]

Got them closer

Breaking transfer records on VVD and Alisson absolutely won Liverpool the PL and CL

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Big signings are usually not worth the money. Here are the records (excluding Wirtz).

Enzo Fernandez
Moses Caicedo
Jack Grealish
Declan Rice
Antony
Josep Gvardiol
Harry Maguire
Darwin Nunez
Jason Sancho
Romelu Lukaku

Only three of those players have helped their team to win a CL or PL. Gvardiol will probably end up being worth it. Grealish is hotly debated but I’d say hes had just one good season. Darwin Nunez is widely seen as a flop who Liverpool are looking to sell.

Spending huge sums of money on transfer fees usually doesn’t do much for you. You have to buy the right player at the right price. That’s a lot harder than just spending cash.

We can play the same game with our signings too and the top end isn’t clearly better.

 

[Richard Arlison]

If we were to raid Brentford, I’m starting to think it should be Lewis-Potter to be our back up LB

 

[LeParisien]

The questions is with
A) The new stadium a promised leveller by Levy
B) Plenty of sustainability wriggle room
C) By far the lowest wage bill of any comparable size club

Why is our “finite resource” less than our competition .

Lack of desire and ambition is my view , what’s yours?

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This is a completely different discussion. Do you agree with me and disagree with Joan that the cost of a player is relevant?

 

[Spursidol]

Yeah so what , not buying anyone for two transfer windows got us. Oh wait sorry that was proven to be negligent in the extreme

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Barcelona's £65m signing De Jong admits he came close to joining Spurs

The 21-year-old midfielder was one of the most coveted players in Europe before signing for Barcelona in a £65million deal in January, with the switch to take place in the summer.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Problem was Poch had no alternative player in mind after Frenkie de Jong declined Spurs in 2018 - got his wish to go to Barcelona 6 months or a year later.

Certainly not sensible.

 

[Ed Vanderlay]

This is a completely different discussion. Do you agree with me and disagree with Joan that the cost of a player is relevant?

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Well clearly it’s not a blanket No as would I pay 300 million for Mbappe no . Do I believe we should be willing to pay 100 million for a player yes . We should be trying to have competition for Solanke so we should be trying to get Gykoeres (70-80m) or similar quality.

Do you believe we should have 2-3 players earning 300k a week or more and several earring 200 k a week .if not why not as the teams who pay the highest wages are usually the most successful.

 

[Spursidol]

Well clearly it’s not a blanket No as would I pay 300 million for Mbappe no . Do I believe we should be willing to pay 100 million for a player yes . We should be trying to have competition for Solanke so we should be trying to get Gykoeres (70-80m) or similar quality.

Do you believe we should have 2-3players earning 300k a week or more and several earring 200 k a week .if not why not as the teams who pay the highest wages are usually the most successful.

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That's not true if we had signed these expensive players (list courtesy of LeParisien )

Enzo Fernandez
Moses Caicedo
Jack Grealish
Declan Rice
Antony
Josep Gvardiol
Harry Maguire
Darwin Nunez
Jason Sancho
Romelu Lukaku

 

[deadleyledley]

Absolutely carried us for 2 months last season, was near the levels of Son and Kane when they were the front 3, he needs more quality around him but I think he's one of the most talented players in our squad and he's still only 25.

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I'm going to be very interested in how Deki plays next season.

He's coming off the back of a bad injury. He's not had much pace anyway but the injury means he's going to lose a little more sharpness.

Frank is going to have to reinvent him as a player because I don't think he's going to be much use a winger.

 

[LeParisien]

Well clearly it’s not a blanket No as would I pay 300 million for Mbappe no . Do I believe we should be willing to pay 100 million for a player yes . We should be trying to have competition for Solanke so we should be trying to get Gykoeres (70-80m) or similar quality.

Do you believe we should have 2-3 players earning 300k a week or more and several earring 200 k a week .if not why not as the teams who pay the highest wages are usually the most successful.

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The aim is to have the best possible players on the pitch. The question, to which there is no clear answer, is how best to do that.

The list of 70-80m+ players has more flops than successes. Players who tear up Portugal can be good or they can be underwhelming (Darwin Nunez anyone?).

I’m happy with our data led approach at the moment. If we could buy like Brighton then I’d be delighted. However sure it would be exciting to pay more in wages for the right players. But that’s not an end in itself.

For me the key is having a coach who can improve players and make the whole better than the sum of its parts. We haven’t had that since Poch so I’m excited and optimistic.

 

[Sidford]

Barcelona's £65m signing De Jong admits he came close to joining Spurs

The 21-year-old midfielder was one of the most coveted players in Europe before signing for Barcelona in a £65million deal in January, with the switch to take place in the summer.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Problem was Poch had no alternative player in mind after Frenkie de Jong declined Spurs in 2918 - got his wish to go to Barcelona 6 months or a year later.

Certainly not sensible.

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It was more than Poch was sick of Levy and not getting the players he wanted and instead getting the likes of sissoko which Poch admitted was a Levy signing.
Poch had been pushed too far by levy by not getting his players in and in the end was that pissed off he refused to take any players. Given no manager had ever done that before or since shows how badly levy managed that situation where he pushes a manager that far they actually refuse any new players.

 

[Spursidol]

Thanks for clarifying - it’s why I asked the question about a loan as I didn’t understand why we need to re-sign say KWP as opposed loaning a previous club trained player.

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Very few Spurs Club trained footballers who are better than say Devine or Donley who could play as List B and will become Club trained. Gray and Bergvall will become List B for 2026/27 (and later Club trained), so its only next season we need to cover and I doubt a loan is much help.

Options for a loan (if player and current club wanted to come) might include Cirkin (LB/LCB) but he's at just promoted Sunderland, Veljkovic (at Werder Bremen since Spurs) now pushing 30, experienced Serbian international CB/DM et al but list is quite short for players better/more experienced than our best List B players,

 

[Spursidol]

It was more than Poch was sick of Levy and not getting the players he wanted and instead getting the likes of sissoko which Poch admitted was a Levy signing.
Poch had been pushed too far by levy by not getting his players in and in the end was that pissed off he refused to take any players. Given no manager had ever done that before or since shows how badly levy managed that situation where he pushes a manager that far they actually refuse any new players.

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de Jong rejection hsd nothing to do with Levy

Poch had no options for alternative players.

Roll on to 2019 and Poch selection Ndombele and Lo Celso (rejecting Bruno Fernandes so he could sign his Argentinian choice Europa League final: How Bruno Fernandes became Manchester United's heart) blowing circa £150m and it took 4 or 5 years to get rid of the pair.

Levy has made mistakes - but not all mistakes are Levy's.

 

[Spurs64]

Do you believe we should have 2-3 players earning 300k a week or more and several earring 200 k a week .if not why not as the teams who pay the highest wages are usually the most successful.

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but most of the players who earn that much and are helping their team did so by being star players who won things and then got their contract renewed. They weren’t earning anything near that when they were brought in.

When players get brought in on huge salaries, it goes badly way more than half their time. Ndombele for us. Pogba, Casemiro, Mount, Sancho for United. Havertz and Jesus for Woolwich. There are many more examples.

So, it’s all very well saying Tottenham need to spend more on salaries, but the way to do that is to find players who become difference makers and have them stay at the club.

If you look at this way, it becomes natural that there will be a lag between spending on players (which has increased a lot since the new stadium) and wages increasing.

 

[NorthernSpur]

What happened to all the Angel Gomes chat? Not that I want to sign him.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I agree, I do like him but we need players who are expected to delivery both goals and assists, not 3 and 4 but 10 plus in the league per season. That’s my biggest fear at the moment, we lost Kane, look like losing an ageing Son and we’ve not replaced them with anyone within a country mile of their output. We’ve lost the best part of a guaranteed 50 goals per season and brought in an injury prone Richarlison and a hard working but average Solanke, plus a good return but often MIA Johnson.

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It’s why I’m a little bemused by people saying let Son go. Sure he’s getting on but he’s usually fit, knows where the goal is and has been a consistent goal scorer. He’s missed Kane terribly too whilst also being asked to be a winger that he isn’t. That’s not just under Ange either, Conte was playing him completely wrong too asking him to win headers on the halfway line and hold the ball up. For the last 3 years he’s had the most dangerous part of his game coached out of him. The cut in and shoot he is deadly at and you don’t lose that ability with age.

Anyway I digress, we need more goal scorers. Although I’m intrigued to see what Solanke does when the first thing asked of him is to sprint around closing down and goal scoring is further down the list. I’m of the view that his finishing is erratic and runs poorly timed because he’s knackered from all the running around.

 

[BUYLEDLEYNEWKNEES]

I'm going to be very interested in how Deki plays next season.

He's coming off the back of a bad injury. He's not had much pace anyway but the injury means he's going to lose a little more sharpness.

Frank is going to have to reinvent him as a player because I don't think he's going to be much use a winger.

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I've got absolutely no idea how he'll be used but I'm sure Frank will find a place for him, looking at the goals Brentford seem to have scored a lot of last year I think Kulusevski finding space on the right hand side and playing that short cross into the box from the edge of the area will happen a million times this season.

I think he'll be played as a 10 again this season and I think Frank actually having a plan will help him, think too many times last season Kulu, Johnson and Porro all like to occupy the same space when they're on the pitch together and that's an easy fix.

 

[Ed Vanderlay]

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The aim is to have the best possible players on the pitch. The question, to which there is no clear answer, is how best to do that.

The list of 70-80m+ players has more flops than successes. Players who tear up Portugal can be good or they can be underwhelming (Darwin Nunez anyone?).

I’m happy with our data led approach at the moment. If we could buy like Brighton then I’d be delighted. However sure it would be exciting to pay more in wages for the right players. But that’s not an end in itself.

For me the key is having a coach who can improve players and make the whole better than the sum of its parts. We haven’t had that since Poch so I’m excited and optimistic.

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Why are you so keen to do things on a budget , a budget that is clearly significantly less than we can afford .

It’s a fact the most successful teams pay the highest wages , yes the likes of Brighton have done well on data . if that is the limit of your ambition with a 60k stadium charging the earth for a ticket , whilst hosting numerous events we were promised would make us competitive then you do you .

Your posts always read like it’s your money , why do you care

 

[Sidford]

de Jong rejection hsd nothing to do with Levy

Poch had no options for alternative players.

Roll on to 2019 and Poch selection Ndombele and Lo Celso (rejecting Bruno Fernandes so he could sign his Argentinian choice Europa League final: How Bruno Fernandes became Manchester United's heart) blowing circa £150m and it took 4 or 5 years to get rid of the pair.

Levy has made mistakes - but not all mistakes are Levy's.

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Poch had been pushed to a mindset where he refused Levy's alternatives. Has that ever happened with a manager at any other time either before or after where the club signed no player for 18 months?! Imagine how far you have to push a manager where they will accept no alternative whatsoever. That summer he also wanted ndombele but we couldn't get him either.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Cristian Romero is getting phone calls 'every day' to lure him into £50m Tottenham exit

WTF? Simeone following the Perez RM playbook. Aren’t there rules about ‘tapping up’ contracted players from other clubs? Ringing Romero almost every day!? Some people have no respect. If this is true Levy should either put a formal complaint to UEFA or just tell Simione to fuck off and the price goes up by a million for each call. The article also says Levy wants 50 million quid. No way he’s selling Cuti for less than 65-70 knowing DL. Probably the article is bullshit. How would they know what calls Simeone is or isn’t making anyway?

 

[Calgary Spur]

The questions is with
A) The new stadium a promised leveller by Levy
B) Plenty of sustainability wriggle room
C) By far the lowest wage bill of any comparable size club

Why is our “finite resource” less than our competition .

Lack of desire and ambition is my view , what’s yours?

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To me it’s 100% this. I see Liverpool spending gobs of money to get their targets and we hear “well, we can’t do that.” And why not? We were all told that the stadium would see us compete, and we heard this eeek that the clubs wants to win the PL and CL. We are supposedly this incredibly well managed (from a financial perspective) organization. Yet we are stuck looking for bargains and castoffs who we hope can fill a void.

 

[LeParisien]

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Why are you so keen to do things on a budget , a budget that is clearly significantly less than we can afford .

It’s a fact the most successful teams are more successful, yes the likes of Brighton have done well on data . if that is the limit of your ambition with a 60k stadium charging the earth for a ticket , whilst hosting numerous events we were promised would make us competitive then you do you .

Your posts always read like it’s your money , why do you care

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Re-read the first post you replied to about opportunity cost.