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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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I don't really subscribe to this argument. The issue stems from recruitment. We don't play our youth players because they're absolutely not good enough. Madueke is the only one you could say 'slipped through the net'. The rest are all playing in the lower divisions and in some rare cases for struggling premier league clubs.

You can't just play youth because they're there. They have to be good enough, and our academy is absolutely not good enough.
But how do you know? We saw Moore have some great cameos last season. He could have continued in a similar vein this season. What I do know is tel has had far more minutes than any of our academy players and shown nothing for what we paid in total £40M plus. I know who rather develop and use that £40M towards a proven quality player. Also Tel seems to now get a CF role like today. I’d rather see lankshear get a chance.
 
2 red flags for me:

Why are Bayern willing to get rid after a year and to slash his value in half?

Sure he was good at Fulham 2 years ago, but 1) football moves very quickly, and 2) They replaced him with Sander Berge and didn’t miss a beat.

This group of midfielders can dig in, scrap protect the defence when needs be. What they can’t do well is pass through the lines.

Palhinha to me is the DM version of Adama Traore. He’s elite at one particular skill, but we need more.
 
Just need the medical done, sign the contracts plus apply for work permit etc, and with DM sorted for next season, we know what cash we have left for rest of transfer window ....... so time to move on to next target (s)

Also withdraw our interest in Hayden Hackney who was our back up as DM, who Ipswich are chasing
 
2 red flags for me:

Why are Bayern willing to get rid after a year and to slash his value in half?

Sure he was good at Fulham 2 years ago, but 1) football moves very quickly, and 2) They replaced him with Sander Berge and didn’t miss a beat.

This group of midfielders can dig in, scrap protect the defence when needs be. What they can’t do well is pass through the lines.

Palhinha to me is the DM version of Adama Traore. He’s elite at one particular skill, but we need more.
Very legitimate concerns, which is why the loan aspect of it makes the deal much more favorable to us.

It's a free(ish) hit for a guy we are sure possesses a specific ability the squad is lacking.

If deploying that ability causes tradeoffs that make us worse, no harm no foul, he's an overpaid and overqualified guy to put on at the hour mark when we have a lead and that being worth peanuts is Bayern's problem
 
Seems to be the theme with clubs at the mo. Newcastle signing the keeper that has relegated 3 teams now. United keeping a clown in the sticks. Chelsea sticking with Sanchez. Villa looking to sell the best one they've had in yonks.

Only Liverpool and City seem to have the right idea so far.


The most important positions is keeper and striker.
If you have 2 top players in them positions you can lose a few average players in the 11 imo
 
I don't necessarily subscribe to this argument tbh, I think it's the culture of the club that stymies a lot of our youth players' careers, trust and belief in a player goes a hell of a long way towards their early development, and bigger clubs in our league afford far better opportunities to their youth players than we do. Quansah is never a £35m player, if we signed Quansah for that much people on here would be fucking fuming, Harvey Elliott is probably a £20m player but would you be surprised if they get £40m+? Neither are likely good enough for Liverpool long term but they have been given ample opportunities to show their worth in the first team, something basically none of our youth players ever get.
Not one Leicester City fan was raving about how Kane would end up being a goalscoring sensation when he came back from them on loan, but a bit of faith and some meaningful minutes in strong lineups gave him the platform to become the player he did. In the position we're in I would like to see more meaningful minutes given to someone like Donley who actually had a very good loan and is 20, so ripe for some PL experience, but what's the likelihood he ends up in the championship? Could it be that he's not good enough? Possibly so, would we likely be getting £25-30m if we gave him say 50 apps in a Spurs shirt over 2-3 seasons instead of farming him out on loan to the championship until the last year of his deal and selling him to a championship club for a pittance? Almost certainly.
For a club that seems to be going all in on youth development over the near term we seem to really have a one-track approach to it, everything with a player hinges on whether they can start 50 games a season for Spurs or else do they need to be on loan at a level that basically does not benefit them whatsoever, wasting whatever early potential they may or may not have had? Making £60-100m a season on academy players that are not good enough would be a huge boon in the market, one afforded to clubs like Chavs and Liverpool that we seem intent on ignoring.
100% agree but some on here and in our fan base would rather put faith in unproven players that we buy for heft fees like Wilson and Tel rather than our own. Im
Sure Devine would be just as useful as gray in midfield. Sane with dorrington and Philips over say the Japanese kid. I’d rather give minutes to lankshear in the CF role than Tel. Could go on but no point.
 
But how do you know? We saw Moore have some great cameos last season. He could have continued in a similar vein this season. What I do know is tel has had far more minutes than any of our academy players and shown nothing for what we paid in total £40M plus. I know who rather develop and use that £40M towards a proven quality player. Also Tel seems to now get a CF role like today. I’d rather see lankshear get a chance.
Great Cameos in EL - looked ineffective and not ready for PL
 
There’s a probably a reason we struggle to loan our youngsters. They’re not as good as we think they are
See this is the thing it’s easy to say that bcos they are never given minutes. Yet look at what everyone says about our forwards that we need to massively improve. Yet those forwards a lot our unproven yet youngsters we have purchased. Can’t have it both ways.
 
He was someone that I wanted us to go for in this window a few months back

For some reason I'm no longer as enamoured with this but I don't think it's a bad signing , and it's pretty low risk

Be nice to see us less powderpuff in the middle of the park
 
Johnson WAS deadline day, unlike Solanke and Odobert who were signed weeks before deadline day.

Honestly, there are enough factually true sticks to beat the club with, and it's easy enough to fact check them in just 5 seconds!
Ok they were but it just before first game of season not earlier in the summer so that they could have had a pre season with the squad and gone on tour.
 
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