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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Vuskovic doesn't need minutes that much right now. He played 2 full seasons already at senior level. Keep him till January till Dragu is fully back and then assess again. Half year when prolly he will play a little less will do no harm for his development. And there is always change he will bang on immediately.
 
With Romero staying and Bissouma yet to leave, it looks like we’ll be playing a lot of 4-3-3 this season.

Getting the vibe that the formation isn't going to be as important as the personal.

Think Frank is going to have at least 6 defensive players on the pitch at all times. So if it's 4 at the back, i think we're going to have at least 2 holding/defensive mids.
 

One thing we will be hoping for is to get these guys up the value chain from where our collective loanees were last year/in previous years.

You're not really gaining any attention in League One/Two no matter how well you do, and Westerlo is no more than mid table Championship level.

Can we get some of these guys into promotion contenders in the Champo? Are there sexier opportunities outside England?

All loans are not created equal.
 
You are not measuring apples with apples though are you?

In the 60's and early 70's, which was THFC's golden period really, Spurs were definitely perceived as one of the top clubs in the country in respect of winning trophies, buying the best players and competing in general with all the big hitters.

This is the period before Bob Paisley's Liverpool going on to dominate English and European football.

The recovery from relegation in 77 and the 80's domestic and European success then sustained the club's status as one of England's biggest teams.

Spurs were genuinely competing with everyone in those days.

The Sugar and ENIC regimes have changed that status and done reputational damage to Spurs.

Spurs under these regimes have become a selling club who have flirted with success but more often than not bottled it when it matters most.

Spurs also no longer break British transfer records, as they did with Greaves and Gascoigne, to beat other big clubs to the best players and pay them the top salaries.

Spurs only have the best paid directors under these regimes.

The league position was not the be all and end all in the 60's, 70's, 80's and to a lesser extent; the 90's.

The F.A. Cup and European trophies were all a much bigger prize than they are post Premier League and Champions League. The League Cup was the poor relation in this respect but winning it did get you into Europe.

I know it must be difficult for younger supporters to comprehend this but it is important that people understand how big THFC was then, is now and could be with the right people running the finances.

ENIC and Levy will always be more interested in what's in it for them rather than the supporters.

Levy will never change this perception of him now.

It's too late.

What he will do is anything that buys him a bit more time.

This is where I have a problem , as someone who is old enough to remember 58 of those 60 years I feel very differently about the first 30 to the last 30 years .
The first 30 includes a relegation, but I always felt we were a player in that era , I knew relegation was an aberration.
Will be interesting to see if the other old fogies feel like me from a lived rather than statistical perspective. I genuinely don’t believe this is old git it was better in the old days syndrome . Throughout the barren spells of the 70s and 80’s there were periods of success . It’s just when things were tough we always felt like a sleeping giant , a bear that shouldn’t be poked . Statistics cannot reflect an emotion from 30 , 40 , 50 years ago . I have not felt we are a sleeping giant for most of Levy’s tenure despite the periods where there have been undoubted highs.
Some of that is clearly down to Sky and the CL coming along at the wrong time for us . I just cannot accept that in 25 years our owners constantly repeat the same obvious mistakes .

Edit: also and this I vitally important the 60’s 70’s,80’s and even 91 when we won the FA cup it was a far more prestigious trophy than winning it today , it was not as prestigious as winning the league but not far off it. Likewise our European trophies dwarf the EL in prestige . So I am afraid the statistics do not stack up against the lived experience of older fans , so yes I expect better from Levy . I also feel he lacks the passion for the club the fans have , therefore I expect nothing to change
A lot of words and (sometimes unjustified) nostalgia here. But most of it is completely off topic.

Some people are disingenuously suggesting that we should be expecting to compete for the league or champions league even though that hasn’t been where we are as a club in the past 60 years.

If your argument is we should be competing for domestic cups then that is different.
 
Is it mad that I’m kinda rooting for Newcastle to get Sesko, Liverpool get Isak, just so they may pass on Rodrygo and the tiny chance he considers us??
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Well, Son is one outgoing tbf. Few players out on loan.

Big ones for permanent outs are Bissouma, Solomon, Romero, Richarlison (in terms of things that are supposed to happen based on media links), but it's mostly a big pile of midfielders we need to filter through

I am sure that I read somewhere that Leeds wanted Solomon on a perminent deal?

Bissouma to the Pikey's?

We need rid of Richy, but i can's seen any team in European football wanting an oft injured player who can't score.

Romero will likely be our Captain come the Munich game.
 
A lot of words and (sometimes unjustified) nostalgia here. But most of it is completely off topic.

Some people are disingenuously suggesting that we should be expecting to compete for the league or champions league even though that hasn’t been where we are as a club in the past 60 years.

If your argument is we should be competing for domestic cups then that is different.
I mean, Levy himself, who you defend like he's your first born, said that the expectation is to win the league.
 
He's currently on £200k a week-ish. 12.5m Euro per year / 52 weeks 240k euro = £208k
We just cut £200k a week from the wage bill.
If nobody else is willing to give Rodrygo £350k a week his choice is sit on the bench at Real and miss out on next years world cup. Or take less of a payrise and come to Spurs.

Probably difficult choice to be fair.



I reckon player like a bit of chaos on the pitch in their side. You don't always need to run in to an exact spot, you just need to think "he's getting the ball into the box, I should be there too"
There will be rebounds, stray balls and many times, perfect passes.



On loan is no biggie. Committing tens of millions and £200+ a week for 5 years is a risk.

The choice for the player seeking a place in the Brazilian side is that he has to play regularly for a club somewhere this coming season.

Leaving Madrid even on loan for any other club is a come down for any player, but the choice is his.

As for his wage demands we can afford it, have been able to afford similar deals since the move to the new stadium, and now that Son has gone Levy has no pressure to match or increase any other current players contract bar Romero whom I guess will be given a new contract over the next few days plus the Captaincy?

Regarding the salary expectations, Levy could spend 200k a week on three ADDITIONAL players and still not be over 50% salaries to turnover.

I can understand Levy being cautious on throwing money at players if we were out of all competitions, but he has to take a calculated risk in the CL where the return on player investment is almost covered with a signing of a player like Rodrygo.
 
A lot of words and (sometimes unjustified) nostalgia here. But most of it is completely off topic.

Some people are disingenuously suggesting that we should be expecting to compete for the league or champions league even though that hasn’t been where we are as a club in the past 60 years.

If your argument is we should be competing for domestic cups then that is different.
You and I will have to agree to disagree on this.

I'm too young 😁 for the 60s and 70s but I always felt we were a top team, and up for it in the 80's. We were considered part of the big 5 for a reason, though, unlike in the premier league era, the big 5 didn't finish in the top 5 positions practically year after year.

The 90s went pear shaped for us. We were in financial difficulty, which meant we weren't in the right state to take advantage of the riches that the premier league, and then the champions league brought about. The 'top 4' was sealed; we needed ENIC to steady the ship financially by brining about self-sufficiency before we were able to gate crash the party. Unfortunately, ENIC is still in self-sufficiency mode, while most of us would prefer that they push on.

Currently, we are not a top 4 team; we are close, but not there.

So, it might be the past 60 years for you; but for me, it's the past 30 years.
 
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Let’s hope not because Grealish is not a creative midfielder. He used to a ball carrier but now he is just a castrated shell of what he was at Villa.

Not sure if is him or Pep to blame but a shadow of what he was.

If Palhinha is a punt Grealish is a PUNT!!!!!

Grealish is just twenty nine, and a player that we could get on a season loan, and is obviously English.

He has skill and pace and can pass the ball, and chip in with a goal or two. He made thirty two appearances last season and and one hundred and twenty over the past three seasons for City.

We need this type of player and the bullshit about his attitude is a myth, he played over thirty games last season for Pep, a disciplinarian.

Fans in here are very picky, believing that half the players available in Europe are lining up to play for us, but wake up and smell the coffee, they are not.
 
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This is where I have a problem , as someone who is old enough to remember 58 of those 60 years I feel very differently about the first 30 to the last 30 years .
The first 30 includes a relegation, but I always felt we were a player in that era , I knew relegation was an aberration.
Will be interesting to see if the other old fogies feel like me from a lived rather than statistical perspective. I genuinely don’t believe this is old git, it was better in the old days syndrome . Throughout the barren spells of the 70s and 80’s there were periods of success . It’s just when things were tough we always felt like a sleeping giant , a bear that shouldn’t be poked . Statistics cannot reflect an emotion from 30 , 40 , 50 years ago . I have not felt we are a sleeping giant for most of Levy’s tenure despite the periods where there have been undoubted highs.
Some of that is clearly down to Sky and the CL coming along at the wrong time for us . I just cannot accept that in 25 years our owners constantly repeat the same obvious mistakes .

Edit: also and this I vitally important the 60’s 70’s,80’s and even 91 when we won the FA cup it was a far more prestigious trophy than winning it today , it was not as prestigious as winning the league but not far off it. Likewise our European trophies dwarf the EL in prestige . So I am afraid the statistics do not stack up against the lived experience of older fans , so yes I expect better from Levy . I also feel he lacks the passion for the club the fans have , therefore I expect nothing to change
Well said sir.
 
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