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Manager Thomas Frank
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If I could be arsed to trawil through posts, If I went back to the start of Ange's tenure you would be saying the exact same thing about him. I guarantee it.
It was shocking how instantly Ange imposed his radically different football.
One might fairly respond "that's because his football is overly rigid and simplistic" but still.
I don't think he did really. I think it was a myth. Everyone at the club was giddy, there was a huge feel good factor with the fans and we got off to a great start.
It was soon exposed how badly organised we were against Chelsea.
My whole point is it takes time for a manager to really turn a club around.
You might get a little new manager bounce and you might start to see the players picking up on what the coach wants in terms of style of play. But it takes a long time for the ethos to be fully integrated and several windows to get the right players.
We never give our managers this kind of time and we never back them in the market.
So fundamentally all of our managers are on a hiding to nothing.
Again, it may have been *badly* organized, but it was extremely *differently* organized than Conte/Stellini/Mason scared-to-do-anything coward ball.
We've seen a lot of managerial changes around here. None of them established their own way of playing as quickly as Ange did.
That might reflect the lack of subtlety that proved to be his undoing, but it's a fact nonetheless.
Its a complete myth that the Chelsea game exposed us. We were absolutely battering them all over park. Scored one, should have had a second then the wheels came off. If we finish that game with 11 we run out comfortable winners. I will concede that we were a shambles with ten and then nine but to say that game exposed us is wrong.
Never wanted Fat man.
Was furious actually and railed against him coming.
Then liked the look of how we were attacking and got behind it.
If I'd have known it was his only trick, with him neglecting everything else, I'd have adjusted the optimism I eventually adopted and balanced it out with a fair measure of concern from the off.
In managerial terms he's an amoeba compared to Frank.
For the way we are run - a constant - Frank is the ideal manager.
Already shown a tactical maturity Ange could only dream of.
I'll tell you this, tho... if he'd had had us for 2 years and took us through that EL comp, he wouldn't have lost a single game and we'd have finished top 8.
No drama.
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Lol, anyone blaming Thomas yet for getting them to run so much in his first few trainings, running some of them to the ground and injured them?
Probably Sunderland
The away games to City,Utd,Liverpool,Everton, Newcastle,Sunderland,Burnley and Leeds are all under 4 hrs drive for me which is decent. Can do the train and get bevvied up or down and back up same day.
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So it begins…
Who’s already up for buying into this narrative?
It's on my Bingo card right next to "he's a dinosaur" "negative boring tactics" and "lost the changing room"
It's not been wrong this game. Goretzka should have scored 2 or 3
Every system has things like this
Have to remember he's got to learn about these players, up close.
He may have watched our games, but now has to really get to know them inside out and gauge their scope and how they'll fit into the big picture of the way he wants to play.
The process is gonna have to process in this respect.
You can't rush an experience of something.
You gotta live it.
He's just gonna need time to get his head around what he's got on his plate here.
He may have watched our games, but now has to really get to know them inside out and gauge their scope and how they'll fit into the big picture of the way he wants to play.
The process is gonna have to process in this respect.
You can't rush an experience of something.
You gotta live it.
He's just gonna need time to get his head around what he's got on his plate here.
your right the game didn't expose the platers But it did expose Ange
Too big for him. He's a small time coach and will be gone by November.
The job's too big for him because he's lost his first pre-season game - after being here only a few weeks - away to Bayern, German Champions (an established team) ,who's attack is many levels above ours?
That means this job is too big for him??? lol
GG reasoning skillz.
