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Can you prove a single negative things you think about Levy, ENIC? Can you prove CFT have changed anything?

If not I expect you to push back on every single claim made without proof on here or it seems, my friend, youre just targeting me becaue you dont like my opinion.
I noticed your comment because you stated it as fact, you didn't say IMO or I believe. You had no facts to back up your comment.
And you did so to belittle fans that don't agree with your point of view, i.e. fans protesting. You targeting them?

It seems to be a 'go to' for people that believed in Levy to mock the protests, Regardless of the size, they have been mentioned in nearly every TV report since Levy's sacking so they did have an effect.

My biggest pet hate is people putting down our fans in any way.
 
THST statement. Little more classy than Change for Tottenham.




Trust statement on the departure of Daniel Levy

The surprising departure of Daniel Levy after 24 years as Executive Chairman of the Club provides the new leadership with the ideal opportunity for deepened engagement with fan groups on the future direction of the Club. They should take it.

Daniel’s legacy is self-evidently the construction of the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, widely regarded as one of the finest football stadia in the world, as well as related infrastructure such as the training ground. Building such a stadium in the dense, urban heart of our home, Tottenham, is no mean feat. While some may still hanker after the more intimate White Hart Lane, it is clear that THS was needed to allow Tottenham Hotspur to compete on an equal footing with Europe’s football elite. Our thanks go to Daniel for his vision and drive in delivering the stadium.

And yet, the laser focus on cost and value for money necessary for completing the stadium didn’t serve the Club so well on the pitch. Our members and other respondents to our annual surveys consistently over many years valued the Club’s development off the pitch but wanted greater focus on the football. As welcome as the Europa League win was, it was only the second trophy during Daniel’s 24 year reign. The failure to kick on under Mauricio Pochettino and after the opening of THS was a missed opportunity and seemed to reflect an approach, particularly in the transfer market, that was too cautious and too focussed on extracting monetary value rather than addressing weaknesses that were obvious to all.

Genuine fan engagement didn’t come naturally to Daniel. While on paper there was commitment, in practice this often meant telling us what the Club planned to do at short notice. Earlier engagement may have avoided missteps such as the proposed move to Stratford, the ESL, furloughing staff in the pandemic and curtailing senior season ticket concessions.

Legally, there is no change in ownership, but there is no doubt Daniel’s departure represents a switch in leadership to that of the Lewis family interests. There is talk of outside investment and we would remind the Club of its support for the Trust’s 5 Principles upon which we will judge any owner of the Club. It also provides an opportunity for more meaningful engagement with fans; there has already been an encouraging start under new CEO, Vinai Venkatesham.

The Trust will continue to play a constructive role in the engagement process and fulfil its role as a critical friend to the Club. The change in leadership provokes questions about future strategy, the timing of the change, plans for outside investment and reassurance that the Club is in good hands. The Trust will be asking those questions both directly and via its participation in the FAB.

We’d like to thank Daniel Levy for his achievements during his 24 years of service to the Club and wish him well in his future endeavours.
Definitely written by adults
 
I noticed your comment because you stated it as fact, you didn't say IMO or I believe. You had no facts to back up your comment.
And you did so to belittle fans that don't agree with your point of view, i.e. fans protesting. You targeting them?

It seems to be a 'go to' for people that believed in Levy to mock the protests, Regardless of the size, they have been mentioned in nearly every TV report since Levy's sacking so they did have an effect.

My biggest pet hate is people putting down our fans in any way.

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Jim Ratcliffe is a minority investor at United. Indeed Daniel Levy himself has been a minority investor in Tottenham.

There's more than one potential flavor to this.
Any minority investment is still gonna be a huge wedge of money for any individual or consortium to stump up. A 20% stake for instance and you ain't getting much change from £1Billion.
For that kind of outlay you're gonna want some clout in the boardroom, which is where Levy's position was probably a stumbling block and became untenable
 
It doesn't limit the concern though.

At the moment, Tottenham Hotspur is worth around £4B because of the infrastructure and assets. What is to stop a new owner coming in and essentially asset stripping the club, selling the property to themselves at lower prices and creaming all the profits off them, rather than them going into the club, or taking huge dividends out? Or both?

Yes there are entities out there that that will invest for success, but we already know that there are others who'll see this as a cow to be milked.

For all his faults, the only thing Levy took out of this club was a wage. A big one for sure but, when you are solely responsible for turning a business you bought for what, £22M? into a business valued at £4B, why wouldn't you take a top wage? By those lights he'd earned it.
What always made me laugh was the complaint about his wage, by the same people DEMANDING that he pay his employees over 5 times as much!

There aren't too many businesses in the World where the employees are paid hugely more than the guy who both owns and runs the place.

I worry because, despite their soundbite about wanting to be "more successful" on the pitch, I don't really believe the Lewis' actually give a shit. They won't care who they sell to, they'll get £4B to "ease the pain," whilst living thousands of miles away, so no Spurs fans to bother them.

Levy always said he saw himself as just a custodian of the club, and I believe he meant that. Yes he stands to profit handsomely from any sale, but I do think that he wouldn't sell to just anyone, he'd want to pass the club on to someone who would build on what he's done further.

I don't believe that will be the case with the Lewis'.


I hope I'm wrong, but knowing our luck...
Where have the 2nd generation Lewises been for the last 25 years? If their father doesn't give a shit about the club, why should they? As far as I can tell, they're just hovering around the family inheritance and I would expect them to behave in exactly the same way that all the other millions of inheritance-dependent families behave. They'll do whatever they (or their lawyers and financial advisers) feel best monetises the assets they've been left.
 
Where have the 2nd generation Lewises been for the last 25 years? If their father doesn't give a shit about the club, why should they? As far as I can tell, they're just hovering around the family inheritance and I would expect them to behave in exactly the same way that all the other millions of inheritance-dependent families behave. They'll do whatever they (or their lawyers and financial advisers) feel best monetises the assets they've been left.
Have you ever been involved in family business succession? It’s not an easy path to tread.
 
No, can't say that I have.
Knowing your parents have passed their prime and are more of a hindrance than a help is not a nice place to be for a lot of people. Especially when they are the ones responsible for everything you are working with. Especially if they are not aware in the same way as you are

Also, no matter how ruthless you are there’s very little you can actually do if the legal power doesn’t lie with you.
 
I noticed your comment because you stated it as fact, you didn't say IMO or I believe. You had no facts to back up your comment.
And you did so to belittle fans that don't agree with your point of view, i.e. fans protesting. You targeting them?

It seems to be a 'go to' for people that believed in Levy to mock the protests, Regardless of the size, they have been mentioned in nearly every TV report since Levy's sacking so they did have an effect.

My biggest pet hate is people putting down our fans in any way.

Lol I have never, not once see you stick up for me when I get belittled for having a different point of view.

pick and choosing is not a stance.
 
Disagree. The richest 1% have more wealth than the bottom 95 per cent of the world’s population put together. Meaning those left in extreme poverty starve to death. This isn’t sustainable & results in a child starving to death every 10 seconds. To think a good person can be someone who hoards 100s or 1000s of millions (billions) & others should have nothing & starve to death. Or many others be in extreme poverty & struggle badly for the basics whilst you a life in of luxury hoarding wealth you don’t need that could literally save peoples lives. . Extreme poverty is 700m people. In the UK, wealth inequality is widening, and poverty is getting worse. An estimated 14.5 million people – 22% of the UK population – live in poverty. Meanwhile the richest 1% of Britons now hold more wealth than 70% of all other Brits. Just the ego & selfishness to think you deserve to hoard so much of the wealth when others are in poverty or starving to death.
That’s before you get to how these rich people made their fortune which is usually exploiting people.
I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one!
No, you miss my point! Which was judgement of people. I don't judge people by their wealth, but by their actions and contributions to society.
Of course there are those that have and continually pursue to have more and more as result of the less fortunate, but my point is, this is the reality of life!
Do I like and a prove of this? Fuck no! But as I said this is the sad reality of life brother!
 
This is my biggest concern and the reason I'm not jumping around celebrating Levy leaving. None of us are privy into what is really going on behind the scenes.

Harry Redknapp did an interview this morning saying that it was Lewis who wanted him sacked and Levy was the fall guy who had to be the face of the decision. I'd be very weary of thinking there will be any big change. Its also well known that Levy wanted Poch back and always kept a strong relationship with Poch, so its fair to guess he was not the driver behind sacking him either. Maybe Levy was the fall guy all long? Who knows. He was the face of all the decisions but was he always the one making them decisions?

I haven't been impressed by Lange or Vinai so far. And I know nothing about Peter Charrington. Levy was probably a beaten flush and had burnt too many bridges across the industry that I welcome the decision for him to go. But I find the assumption that there is going to be big change at spurs to be very naive. I wouldn't be surprised if its more of the same and if the likes of Vinai and Charrington turn out to be even worse than Levy.
Personally I would not accept to much of what Redknapp says. He is a ducker and diver from the East End who has blagged his way to earning a nice few quid out of having a bit of talent as a footballer and being a loveably cockney character!

I say this because I can relate!!
 
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