I think when Gray is Irving's age, he'll be head and shoulders above him. He's still developing.
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Shame because he looked very good last time he got an actual start there.
He looked really good against Monaco, shame he is injured as could do with him in the squad this run of games!
So are a lot of much, much better players..
He was always one for the future. Think it's still too early to say whether he's a good signing or not. Lad's clearly extremely talented.
Regardless of his talent, though, I think there have to be big question marks around the decision to spend a big fee on a kid with no defined position when we had gaping holes in the squad.
I assume we signed him with the idea of making him into a defensive midfielder (and covering sone minutes at right back) but he looks far better as a box-to-box midfielder so far. And we've signed 2 other youth prospects in Sarr and Bervall who also look best as 8s.
We seem to be decent at identifying talent but poor at squad building and lining up pathways to the first team.
Regardless of his talent, though, I think there have to be big question marks around the decision to spend a big fee on a kid with no defined position when we had gaping holes in the squad.
I assume we signed him with the idea of making him into a defensive midfielder (and covering sone minutes at right back) but he looks far better as a box-to-box midfielder so far. And we've signed 2 other youth prospects in Sarr and Bervall who also look best as 8s.
We seem to be decent at identifying talent but poor at squad building and lining up pathways to the first team.
other 19 year olds exist!? that is crazy info
secretly still running training sessions I guess, bastard
Just pointing out that age is not an excuse.
He has the equivalent of 60 full league games under his belt for Leeds and Spurs now.
Which is very good for a 19 year old at this level.
West Ham fans were fuming that Irving was anywhere near the pitch against Leeds. He really had no business being there and it showed.
Very few players are regularly playing for top teams at an elite level aged 18-19. That's basically a handful of freak wonderkids.
People are using an injury as an excuse to shit on a 19 year old that’s looked excellent in every appearance he’s been given this season?
Because our manager has decided that he needs to start 2 obedient fridges to kick people and take no risks if he wants to survive the way PL football is played now?
Fucking weirdos
Because our manager has decided that he needs to start 2 obedient fridges to kick people and take no risks if he wants to survive the way PL football is played now?
Fucking weirdos
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Unlike most of the posters on these threads, I know next to nothing about sports science, so I'm a bit confused.
Are ALL injuries to players, whatever their clubs, the fault of the medical team or is just the case with us?
From people's views here, it certainly seems like the latter.
Are ALL injuries to players, whatever their clubs, the fault of the medical team or is just the case with us?
From people's views here, it certainly seems like the latter.
Agreed, although it should be said that those "obedient fridges" were outstanding on Sunday.
I hope that some of this £100m ENIC investment is spent on TOTALLY OVERHAULING the entire Medical department... This isn't just on Ange...
Our injury 'curse' has gone back since the 1990's... it's nothing new ...
In fact, after THAT long with relentless injury issues dogging us for THAT LONG, I'd say it's less of a 'curse' and more gross negligence or ineptitude from the top down....
When Liverpool or Arse have one or TWO injuries, it's National news and we all have to step aside and make allowances for it.... 0
We've got 10... TEN.... TEN!! at the moment... and we're not even out of October!!! FFS!
Damn it Sours, I was trying to stay SO positive today!
Ok, ok.... Breathe
1882
... Breathe... we've still got this:
[LINEUP]Kinsky/Vicario
Porro Danso VDV Spence
Paulinha/Sarr Bentancur
Johnson Bergwall Odobert
Muani/Tel[/LINEUP]
Our injury 'curse' has gone back since the 1990's... it's nothing new ...
In fact, after THAT long with relentless injury issues dogging us for THAT LONG, I'd say it's less of a 'curse' and more gross negligence or ineptitude from the top down....
When Liverpool or Arse have one or TWO injuries, it's National news and we all have to step aside and make allowances for it.... 0
We've got 10... TEN.... TEN!! at the moment... and we're not even out of October!!! FFS!
Damn it Sours, I was trying to stay SO positive today!
Ok, ok.... Breathe
1882
... Breathe... we've still got this:[LINEUP]Kinsky/Vicario
Porro Danso VDV Spence
Paulinha/Sarr Bentancur
Johnson Bergwall Odobert
Muani/Tel[/LINEUP]
They defended well
I imagine every club's fanbase hates their respective medical team when it's convenient.
Maybe ours are good, maybe they're shit, maybe it's just freak luck. Unless we get insider info or reporting on them it's impossible to know. So they end up just being a convenient scapegoat because it's easy to point the finger at them.
Woolwich also have a ton of injuries atm and last season too. Their medical team must also be shit I guess?
I think some people just always need to have an opinion and/or someone to blame for everything.
I hope that some of this £100m ENIC investment is spent on TOTALLY OVERHAULING the entire Medical department... This isn't just on Ange...
Our injury 'curse' has gone back since the 1990's... it's nothing new ...
In fact, after THAT long with relentless injury issues dogging us for THAT LONG, I'd say it's less of a 'curse' and more gross negligence or ineptitude from the top down....
When Liverpool or Arse have one or TWO injuries, it's National news and we all have to step aside and make allowances for it.... 0
We've got 10... TEN.... TEN!! at the moment... and we're not even out of October!!! FFS!
Damn it Sours, I was trying to stay SO positive today!
Ok, ok.... Breathe
[LINEUP]Kinsky/Vicario
Porro Danso VDV Spence
Paulinha/Sarr Bentancur
Johnson Bergwall Odobert
Muani/Tel[/LINEUP]
Oh. I was reliably informed it was Ange causing all the injuries.
Perhaps if he played for them every week in his best position he would stand out?
.......Afterall he stood out to many at Leeds.