I thought he'd have regretted mentioning it last week but he's doubling down on it now. If he put his hands up and admitted that he's working hard behind the scenes to fix this I'd have far more patience. But he's starting to sound like Ten Hag now where he's just trying to pat himself on the back at every opportunity and convince people its not his fault. I'd much rather him own up to his tactics needing to change and that he's working hard to get it right.
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Management Who should be Tottenham's next manager after Frank?
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In a way we've got Forest back for fucking us about with MGW because the Postecoglou wage debt is now theirs to pay.
Spot on... for me, he's a dead man walking. The board can't really lay this solely at the feet of Levy because Vinai had his grubby little fingerprints all over this too... remember the "he ticked all our boxes for what we want as a manager" speech... makes me think they only had two boxes "cheap" and "obedient"
The whole 17th thing is gaslighting the fanbase... season before we were 5th... why is that not used as the standard??? This guy has no idea what it means to manage a big club with expectations... I told everyone this but only a few really understood that this was doomed before the ink dried on his contract. As a poster pointed out yesterday, when you get on the wrong train, you get off at the next stop... you don't stay on it and end up at some god forsaken hell hole at the end of the line.
Yeah I'd love to find some hope and get behind him. I'm someone who usually always backs the manager but this just feels like nuno all over again. He's the wrong fit and was from the start. I don't see any metrics or anything to cling onto. Atleast with Ange there was some huge performances in there where we dominated some of the best teams in the league. Frank has given us nothing. He's meant to be all data driven and stats yet somehow our stats are worse than our actual performances. Statistically we are one of the worst teams in the league from open play. We are performing so badly on every metric. Its a complete underperformance.
My first choice is still Xavi, but have a good feeling about Sebastian Hoeneß. His Stuttgart side can be very fun to watch - high pressing, rapid transitions, good positional awareness, puts confidence in the youth. Much more in line with our ethos.
Iraola and Glasner seem earmarked for more successful clubs tbh. And as much as I admire the latter, not sure if a counter-attacking style is a suitable fit for this group of players.
Iraola and Glasner seem earmarked for more successful clubs tbh. And as much as I admire the latter, not sure if a counter-attacking style is a suitable fit for this group of players.
You can back or not back
But do you trust them to get a replacement right
But do you trust them to get a replacement right
Not really Tim... there is a proven track record of getting it incredibly wrong... when they did get it right, they quickly fell out with Conte because he demanded that the club at least try to be serious. People say he wanted players that Levy wouldn't sign but I look back and think the real issue was the mentality. He was trying change the mentality at the club but not really getting the support to do that from above. They were more interested in concerts, boxing, stadium tours, luxury apartments. You only have to look at our injured players. Never rushing to get back because they have full membership of the country club at their disposal.
Will they be as quickly on the sack button as levy was
And who is ultimately making that call
And who is ultimately making that call
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Oh no need to tell me, I couldn't care less about this supposed metaphysical essence called The Spurs Way™. But I have a suspicion that even the last 2 seasons haven't exposed it as the nonsense that it is for a lot of fans.
Even Frank feels obliged to pay lip service to it from time to time, which tells me that it is still alive and well.
True, no arguments. But then the decision would not exclusively be matter of Frank vs Glasner if things came down to Frank's sacking.
I would be lying if I said that I had never considered how Porro as a supercharged Munoz would look like under Glasner.
And moving to a back 3 of Romero-VDV-Vuskovic from Richards-Lacroix-Guehi could possibly transform Glasner's much more reactive approach at Palace.
But still, the absence of anything even resembling a Wharton or a Mateta in this squad is something that I don't think Glasner could overcome in short term at least.
Needs and expectations have this bad habit of actually escalating as your circumstances get better, so I don't know how grateful he would be for simply being here.
Of course there's a case, but I think it is a forced one for reasons I've talked about in detail.
Really good manager, really poor fit.
You could make a point that he has unfinished Business at spurs just (un) like pochThe Special One
At least poch was allowed to coach the final...
BTW is chiriches still playing?
I think the reality of this somewhat ridiculously but not unique situation, is that UNTIL Poch comes back, and either: WINS something, or gets properly backed but STILL doesn't get us a Trophy, then everyone else is gonna be; "yeah but what if....?"
We need to know, once and for all whether Poch really IS the real deal, or just got incredibly lucky with the hand he was dealt, and STILL couldn't get us over the line!
Either that, or we go Top Drawer, Blue Chip like coaches Nagelsmann or Xabi Alonso...
We need to know, once and for all whether Poch really IS the real deal, or just got incredibly lucky with the hand he was dealt, and STILL couldn't get us over the line!
Either that, or we go Top Drawer, Blue Chip like coaches Nagelsmann or Xabi Alonso...
Because both have the same exact background in terms of their managerial careers. Simple ain't rocket science.
Which is reason enough to think the fuckwits at the top will employ him!
Us casual football fans could be excused for not keeping track of hundreds of managers and their teams all over the globe, and I'm not against shopping in the PL market per se. But let's not once again go for one of the lowest hanging fruits under the guise of PL-provenness.
Resorting to Nuno as the nth option was better than going for Frank, or Iraola / Silva that were the other two on the shortlist during the summer apparently, as the first option.
Reeks lazy recruitment that is also evident when it comes to players, exemplified in the signings of Solanke, Johnson and Richarlison for outlandish prices just because they happened to be in the close vicinity.
And no, don't also go for another 60 year old career journeyman.
Resorting to Nuno as the nth option was better than going for Frank, or Iraola / Silva that were the other two on the shortlist during the summer apparently, as the first option.
Reeks lazy recruitment that is also evident when it comes to players, exemplified in the signings of Solanke, Johnson and Richarlison for outlandish prices just because they happened to be in the close vicinity.
And no, don't also go for another 60 year old career journeyman.
I watched Boro a few times last season.
They played great football.
Not Championship style at all.
Lots of one touch passing in the final third and always looking for a key pass or cross rather than the tica taca ball retention.
With very ordinary players, rather than capped international players.
Carrick had clearly got that Boro group of players buying into what he wanted and he had put his own mark on that team.
I think he could do well at the top level.
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Still a gamble though
I suspect everyone assumed Levy going would be because ENIC had also gone.
No.
ENIC knew Levy has spaffed it.
Levy going was the beginning of things getting better.
It took Levy 6 years to break what Paul Mitchell and Poch put together.
It took Levy 13 years to get to Poch.
Daniel Levy is now one of the 250 richest people in Britain.
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