Why don't you stop representing them and leave me alone?
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Why don't you stop representing them and leave me alone?
Cunt off in progress.
Because on the rare occasions you stop obsessing over our former manager and policing people's opinions of him, you have interesting things to say?
It isn't policing people's opinions at all - it is adding balance and fact.
I don't go around shooting down the nonsense candrews and harry7 seem to post about the guy. I only take exception to people trying to brainwash the forum into pretending we spent 2 seasons seeing something different - or, especially, that we should revisit what has been a deconstruction of the club below the lowest levels of the 90s in terms of league performances.
If you were posting on here, would you have defended Ange against the same avalanche of criticism he was receiving last season?
I think most people who criticise Frank were also criticising Ange in a similar vain but your posts always feel like they take a position that any criticism off Frank is laced with a nostalgic longing for Ange. It simply isn't the case and the only martyrdom is the one you've created in your head.
Nobody really wants him back but in hindsight, if this is what we sacked Ange for then I really don't see the point. We are no better off and if you accept both parties have faced a similar level of challenges then I could argue we are slightly worse off.
I want people to defend Frank. I want to hear how this is going to change but don't do it by parlaying it with attacks on the previous managers record and pretending there is some sort of movement to bring him back.
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Stand down KK - let's bring everyone back from the brinkCunt off in progress.
This gif is so overused but it always gives me a chuckle
Your above Average football fan.
Football was always more of a working man's game for various reasons - turning up after a hard week's work in a worn down post-war life, vent off some cathartic energy laughing, shouting, ranting, fighting, drinking etc. Most of the time it was the players doing it on the pitch, too. You'd probably get beaten to a pulp if you brought up "expected goals" and "expected assists" any time before the 00s.
There are trades out there going through the same thing, where you have mechanics who are now rubbing shoulders with kids who are IT skilled and will want to talk about engineering on their lunch break, instead of tits and kicking cats about.
Ange was shiftless and nothing was ever his fault. He believed his system was infallible, if only the players would execute it perfectly. His statements were universally aimed at shirking any and all responsibility onto the players.
Question is would anyone take him here? Obviously its no easy feat to win the league but I think last season he was riding on Klopps coat-tails so to speak , still i'd take him over Frank all day
This is such a funny thing, because drawing instead of losing is better. It's better because you get a point, it's better because it builds a mentality of not losing games.
But at the same time, the way we've drawn some games are on a par with losing. Having dominated Leeds for an hour and then totally surrendered felt like a loss. Having come back from 1 down to lead Man United and draw in injury time, felt like a loss. Almost the same scenario for Newcastle where, at 1-1 we looked like we might get a winner, then conceded again and had to equalise, again.
It's only really the Brighton draw that felt like a positive as we came back from 2 down in a game where we were largely the better side.
Worst one since the last one
Who the fuck was having these conversations??
Drawing on personal experience. I've been adjacent to that trade most of my adult life and worked in a few different places after I left 'that big place in brentwood', and in the dealerships you'd knuckle draggers talking about killing animals or someone's tits, and very little else in-between. The pay in the trade is generally awful, so you don't exactly get Ted talks from academic minds.
I got into reading books purely because it was a more interesting way to burn through a 1 hour break than listening to all that.
West Ham fans. Should have guessed. They have form in kitty abuse.
What's balanced about anything you said? Balance would be, one won us a trophy, one has turned us prehistoric.
For what it's worth, both are fucking awful. But if I'm going to watch us lose or draw every week, I'd rather it not be cruel and unusual punishment to watch.