What if he wants to bring Greenwood with him. That's the sort of thing DeZerbi would do despite the controversy. Like you say he's not afraid of fire starting
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What if he wants to bring Greenwood with him. That's the sort of thing DeZerbi would do despite the controversy. Like you say he's not afraid of fire starting
No, fuck that right off sorry
Therein I suspect lies the problem. If you look at the Man U situation, the hierarchy were probably caught on the hop a bit when Amorim basically came out and asked to be sacked after Leeds game last week and left them with no other option. They clearly didn’t have even a Plan A for an interim manager in that regard and could been end up with Ole Gunnar as interim manager. If you go back to Amorim replacing Ten Hag in November of last season, there was zero new manager bounce and results actually got worse.
I have been in the Frank out camp for a while as the job is just simply too big for him and there’s no future in him here. I have come around in the last week though to the view that possibly should be Frank out at the end of the season. We’ve already had 3 mid-season sackings in the 7 seasons prior to this, when Pochettino and Nuno were sacked, we had Mourinho and Conte waiting in the wings. When Mourinho was fired week of League Cup Final, we were in April, there weren’t many games left in the season and we limped home with Ryan Mason.
It’s a long time from early January to end of season limping home with an interim a manger that quite possibly hasn’t even been identified yet.
It’s far from an ideal scenario, but I feel it may be least worst. Results haven’t gone our way last 7 days, but there were signs of encouragement at various stages in Sunderland, Bournemouth and Villa games that simply weren’t there in the dirge of Crystal Palace and Brentford games.
Yes, he fits the bill although he is absolutely incendiary.
Would not stand for any sh!t.
That's either just what we need it a recipe for disaster
I don't care so much about salaries, player identification is much more important. Get that right, bring in talented footballers not just names or players on insane salaries, and our level will improve dramatically
We had that with Conte. ENIC didn't like it. They won't like it now either.
But we're not doing that either, irrespective of who the manager is. Replacing the manager is the right thing to do but alone is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
maybe they are ony tight on other peopless salaries,but keep their own money tiptop
What does Vicario not being that good ha e to do with anything? He's not helped by Franks open door policy of allowing shots in front of the box (tactical) but I don't really see the relevance
We have now 31 games to draw on, and the cast weight of evidence is that Frank sets us up to the antithesis of what happened in the second half, not that he's aiming for that sort of performance all the time and the players just aren't doing it...
Because we're losing games by conceding goals we shouldn't be conceding. Whilst the style of play hasn't been at all acceptable - the team are playing well in periods and then being deflated by conceding daft goals. It isn't new either, the defence played like they had their bootlaces tied together last season, and the stats for 'mistakes leading to goals' is through the roof this season. If only had tactical issues, instead of individual ones, leading to goals, we'd be comfortably in the top 6 by now and they whole perspective looks different.
We have 98 games to draw on just as much, and results have remained the same, with the same culprits.
No matter which way you look at it, someone has to fix the same issue that Conte spoke about 3 or 4 years ago now - the players have a poor culture where they buckle under pressure and don't want to fight
For the folk that are saying he's probably going to get a few seasons as the board intend to copy the Arteta blue print.
The problem with this is that Frank's philosophy is all negative.
At first I thought he was just fixing the defensive shambles left behind by Ange. And that to me seemed very sensible nearer the start of the season.
But it's very clear now this is his vision of how we're to play.
So we're going to get better at what exactly if we're to keep Frank long-tern?
His whole mindset, the very premise of his philosophy is about stopping the opposition and negating them.
Rather than how we can affect the opposition and control games on the front foot.
And at home, against the majority of the league, that's what we should be setting out to do.
So what's going to change, is Frank suddenly out of the blue going to do this?
He's not the right fit for this Club at all. It looked odd at the time when we went for him, and it's been an utter disappointment.
It's remiss of the board to not sack him now (notwithstanding the heavy compensation)
The problem with this is that Frank's philosophy is all negative.
At first I thought he was just fixing the defensive shambles left behind by Ange. And that to me seemed very sensible nearer the start of the season.
But it's very clear now this is his vision of how we're to play.
So we're going to get better at what exactly if we're to keep Frank long-tern?
His whole mindset, the very premise of his philosophy is about stopping the opposition and negating them.
Rather than how we can affect the opposition and control games on the front foot.
And at home, against the majority of the league, that's what we should be setting out to do.
So what's going to change, is Frank suddenly out of the blue going to do this?
He's not the right fit for this Club at all. It looked odd at the time when we went for him, and it's been an utter disappointment.
It's remiss of the board to not sack him now (notwithstanding the heavy compensation)
Think he will get the West Ham game as a final shot (which I don't think we will win). The board will think it would destabilise the squad if he does go before hand without realising we are already at that stage anyway.
I'm not saying that I agree with this suggestion, as it's very short-term thinking, but is there any possibility that the board are terrified to bring in a new manager right before the horrific run of games we have in February? The way we are playing at the moment, it's hard to see anything other than 4 convincing defeats there, and that would be a pretty disastrous start for any new manager. But of course if they wait until after that, then it might as well be an interim for the remaining 2.5 months, as the season will be over for us anyway (unrealistic fears of relegation aside - we're miles clear of that). You could argue that they could appoint an interim now, but the end result would be much the same, i.e. if you let the interim suffer the horrific run of games in Feb, then once you're into march you might as well wait until the summer to appoint a new pernanent manager.
I'm not sure what to conclude from above - there really isn't a good answer right now.
I'm not sure what to conclude from above - there really isn't a good answer right now.
Well I'd say he'd jump at the chance to manage here, with or without Geeenwood.
When we concede the same goals repeatedly, predictably, it's tactical.
That said - I agree completely with your last sentence, and I believe that person primarily to be the manager.
Set the standards, demand the levels, make sure the players are on board...
But on balance, right now, Frank is by far the biggest problem
As Ange was before - so that whole comparison is moot really
None of which is to say the players can't be better and do better, or the squad shouldnt be improved.
It would help if we stopped employing managers who are anti football
Yep, Enic are still here so ultimately what is really going to change.
Who is saying this?
I never rated Frank as an attacking manager. His Brentford team always looked at their best when setting up deep against a top team and being hard to beat. Whenever teams sat on them they always struggled to hold the ball and could never dominate and pepper a team. He was never up to this task. I voiced all this in the summer but put all my doubts behind me and got behind Frank for the first 3 months but unfortunately all my doubts have been proven right. In fact Frank is even worse than I imagined. I thought the worst case was that he could be another Nuno. He's gone beyond that.
McKenna's teams are better to watch and are more possession based. I get the feeling that he's more in the Kompany mould and will step up to the task. That is just an opinion and a guess but I'd a bad feeling about Frank before he joined. I've a really good feeling about McKenna.