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Player Wilson Odobert

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This is killing me :D

Injury crisis started around 2023 but we moved into the stadium in 2019 so where's the correlation, why weren't we getting this many injuries in the first 4 years?

Agree.

4 years playing at the 'new' stadium with retractable pitch from 2019 - 2023 and no abnormal stats - some other clubs were worse off than Spurs.

Its only last couple of seasons where we've had abnormal stats - and even that you look at what happened :
Maddison - Known to be out for most of this season
Kulusevski - Originally player camp thought he'd be back after September international break, then Frank by end December ..... but still out injured
Solanke - Had 2 attempts back with sub appearances in Aug, then op and back in January
Dragusin - Known to be out at start of season, just restarted playing

Club tried to minimise injury effects on attackers by bringing in during summer -
Kolo Muami - Loan for striker excellent record at Frankfurt and Juventus, but injured with dead leg in training and effectively missed 3- 5 months at start of season, and even then not very effective
Simons - Started slowly seeming to struggle with speed and physicality of PL, only just started to look effective ion January

So we have struggled in attack since start of season with 4 genuinely injured players (nothing to do with pitch), then as Richarlison is only fit forward he's over played
and succcums to injury.

And no effective attack means all defenders and midfield players are more exposed, play more so more likely to pick up injuries.

This means we know :
1 Injuries didn't happen in first 4 seasons of use of stadium with retractable pitch

2 We started this season with a lot of injuries (and underperforming players Kolo Muani and Simons) in attack.

Only people loving Conspiracy theories can blame the stadium pitch for injuries : the facts are NOT on their side.
 
Ugh, how did we end up with a worse injury crisis than last year? Injury list, while not great, was manageable until the new year started. Now in the space of six weeks it's become cataclysmic. Another fucking ACL too. Devastating for a young player. Players play too many games. It's unsustainable.
 
The thing is, with the amount of injuries the pitch would have been considered by people at the club. It would have to be, just as we are doing it now. The issue is that they are likely to show the same blind loyalty to a sodding retractable pitch as they did to a wholly unsuitable manager
 
Ugh, how did we end up with a worse injury crisis than last year? Injury list, while not great, was manageable until the new year started. Now in the space of six weeks it's become cataclysmic. Another fucking ACL too. Devastating for a young player. Players play too many games. It's unsustainable.
Thin squad due to existing injuries, lack of quality meaning the same players are overplayed and a failure to reinforce in January.
 
Ugh, how did we end up with a worse injury crisis than last year? Injury list, while not great, was manageable until the new year started. Now in the space of six weeks it's become cataclysmic. Another fucking ACL too. Devastating for a young player. Players play too many games. It's unsustainable.
is he playing more games than any other squads - I dont know but I doubt it. There has to be more to this injury crisis; were they all sustained at home? Training surface? I dont know
 
Agree.

4 years playing at the 'new' stadium with retractable pitch from 2019 - 2023 and no abnormal stats - some other clubs were worse off than Spurs.

Its only last couple of seasons where we've had abnormal stats - and even that you look at what happened :
Maddison - Known to be out for most of this season
Kulusevski - Originally player camp thought he'd be back after September international break, then Frank by end December ..... but still out injured
Solanke - Had 2 attempts back with sub appearances in Aug, then op and back in January
Dragusin - Known to be out at start of season, just restarted playing

Club tried to minimise injury effects on attackers by bringing in during summer -
Kolo Muami - Loan for striker excellent record at Frankfurt and Juventus, but injured with dead leg in training and effectively missed 3- 5 months at start of season, and even then not very effective
Simons - Started slowly seeming to struggle with speed and physicality of PL, only just started to look effective ion January

So we have struggled in attack since start of season with 4 genuinely injured players (nothing to do with pitch), then as Richarlison is only fit forward he's over played
and succcums to injury.

And no effective attack means all defenders and midfield players are more exposed, play more so more likely to pick up injuries.

This means we know :
1 Injuries didn't happen in first 4 seasons of use of stadium with retractable pitch

2 We started this season with a lot of injuries (and underperforming players Kolo Muani and Simons) in attack.

Only people loving Conspiracy theories can blame the stadium pitch for injuries : the facts are NOT on their side.

What's the medical staff make up looked like in that time frame is what i wanna know.

But we just seem to be unlucky we had a lot of muscle injuries under ange ofc but the amount of freak season enders is a joke. Kulu, Madders, Bentancur x2 and now Odobert it seems have all picked up 9 months plus injuries in a 24 month spell its mad.

Poor squad planning over playing certain players and buying injury prone players also hasn't helped
 
I understand the logic in blaming the pitch but plenty of our injuries are in training, and away grounds. All teams get more injuries now due to playing more minutes (longer stoppage time), more matches, more sprinting in matches. We are getting a large amount due to poor squad depth, rotating players poorly (we rush players back, over play some), having injury prone players (some caused at Spurs yes), medical staff not good enough, bad luck, and when down to less players the fit ones are under more strain and are at higher risk of injury.
 
The worst thing about his latest injury is nobody will buy him this summer.

What a signing. May as well have chucked 30mil straight down the crapper.
 
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