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Do you think we'll stay up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 184 40.1%
  • No

    Votes: 275 59.9%

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Most particularly I believe you can date the club's decline to the refusal to replace Dembele.
I mean the club didn't refuse to replace Dembele, they were just late to do so and spent an eye-watering sum on a player who wasn't suited to professional football in Ndombele.

In terms of scouting traits that's actually one of the few players from Peak Poch that we DID "replace".

But alas we made a dog's breakfast of it.
 
West Ham being given the kiss of life by us...
there must be an angel by their side

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[LINEUP]Vicario
Porro Romero VDV Spence
Kudus Palhinha Bentancur X.Simons
Richarlison Muani[/LINEUP]

Our most used players. Pape Sarr and Gray are the only others to have played more than 1000 minutes.

Should we be expecting more?

Are VDV and Romero overated?

Porro, Kudus and Bentancur have been missing recently and results haven't improved and got worse
 
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I mean the club didn't refuse to replace Dembele, they were just late to do so and spent an eye-watering sum on a player who wasn't suited to professional football in Ndombele.

In terms of scouting traits that's actually one of the few players from Peak Poch that we DID "replace".

But alas we made a dog's breakfast of it.
Yes either by wasting a big transfer fee like with Ndombele, or signing an average player like Richarlison after which they have to sign another average player in Solanke to correct the mistake, which signing also turns out to be a mistake, and in the end we have spent transfer fees that would bring world class players but have only an average player to show.

I know part of the problem is that they won't spend on wages, and that keeps world class players out of our reach even if we'd consider paying the fee. But the acceptance of that fact is defining of the club.

They feel they don't need good players, only good-enough players, because they only aim for good-enough results on the pitch.

Always they have believed that they could greatly overachieve the wage bill and it never happened over 25 years except for a short period, yet they never change.
 
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1 August or 1 December you would have said Spurs are too big to go down, because the club have the resources to bring in emergency transfers even at high prices, or would replace the manager with someone who can save them, et cetera

But we refused to do those things, we refused to bring those resources to bear, and decided we would fight like a small club to stay up. Now the die is cast
 
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Seems fair to me.

It’s obviously the story of the season. Much like if other “super league” clubs were in our position it also would be.
 
Yes either by wasting a big transfer fee like with Ndombele, or signing an average player like Richarlison after which they have to sign another average player in Solanke to correct the mistake, which signing also turns out to be a mistake, and in the end we have spent transfer fees that would bring world class players but have only an average player to show.

I know part of the problem is that they won't spend on wages, and that keeps world class players out of our reach even if we'd consider paying the fee. But the acceptance of that fact is defining of the club.

They feel they don't need good players, only good-enough players, because they only aim for good-enough results on the pitch.

Always they have believed that they could greatly overachieve the wage bill and it never happened over 25 years except for a short period, yet they never change.
For better or for worse, this is all Daniel Levy's Spurs as supported by the unconditional faith of Joe Lewis, and that regime ain't in charge anymore.

The new regime doesn't seem terribly credible to me, but they quite literally are not responsible for all that previous stuff.
 
I get this, but how much are you paying for VdV last summer, just after his overhead clearance in the Europa? You’ll give him a pretty good salary too, I imagine?

How about a relegated VdV? Same fee? Same salary? Doubtful. Are you even a club that would want to sign an ever present in a relegated side?

If these players want away, to somewhere ‘’better” for more money, they’d better get their fucking arses in gear.
I wonder if our players have wage reduction clauses in their contracts if relegation were to occur. I thought this was at one time common.

We know this board, and that with the broadcast revenue greatly reduced, sponsorship revenue presumably also reduced, match day receipts reduced, they will claim there isn't the money to pay PL wages across the board.

Whether they would keep a premium asset like VDV I cannot say or if he would even tolerate a spell in a lower league I know not, but if we are down I expect most everyone of value would be sold.

It might make sense if we were run by others who could roll the money selling Romero, VDV, etc into a new wave for the future. But with the lot who run the club at present it would all come to nothing.
 
For better or for worse, this is all Daniel Levy's Spurs as supported by the unconditional faith of Joe Lewis, and that regime ain't in charge anymore.

The new regime doesn't seem terribly credible to me, but they quite literally are not responsible for all that previous stuff.
I agree, but their dereliction of duty this year tells me their words about a new commitment to results are to this point nothing more than hot air. They've sat on their hands and allowed this situation to come to a head
 
You can date our issues back to the summer of 2018 when we didn't sign a single player. Absolutely disgraceful. Things went downhill in the league from that summer onwards. Been a mess the last few years.

More I think about it, I'm convinced we're going down. Teams will play so hard against us as they'll be desperate to get a big team out of the league.
And in reality, how much do our players care about staying up? Any of them that doesn't want to play in the Championship will get a move and they know it

If our players had any fight, they would have won a league game in 2026 by now, so we are going to have to find some way to motivate them or, Fulham, Palace, Wet Spam and Forest are potential defeats, never mind the Bin Dippers and Chavski etc.
 
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Yep. It is alright discussing it on here but players will see it all on social media and wont react well to it, which is why I think us fans need to adopt a siege mentality on there and social media widely. Cant be pathetic.

It will only get worse. It is why we need to pick up points ASAP so we can put it to bed. There will be a constant will for the story to happen in the last month of the season, so we cant let it get to then.
 
I agree, but their dereliction of duty this year tells me their words about a new commitment to results are to this point nothing more than hot air. They've sat on their hands and allowed this situation to come to a head
Personally I see it more as not even having come to grips with the nature and extent of the problem, in addition to lacking the sophistication of people who know what they're doing in the football business.

They've sussed out that Levy's leadership on the sporting side was going nowhere in terms of fulfilling their commercial ambitions, so far so good, but it's a hell of a long way from there to being able to deliver results themselves.
 
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