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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 184 40.1%
  • No

    Votes: 275 59.9%

  • Total voters
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Madders, no. Kudus, maybe. Bentancur at some point in April.

Even when Madders come back, temper expectations. A player that relies on agility for the way he plays, at 31, who already had a broken body, he won't be up to anything like speed, and I'd be shocked of he's anywhere close to where he was before it.
He's 29? But yeah otherwise agree. We should work on the assumption Maddison won't have a meaningful impact until next season (if he's still here).
 
I strongly disagree.

I think we would keep certain players amd spend our way back into the PL. Genuinely.

One season would be like having a really bad virus, but one you could fight off with expensively acquired vaccines (the best players possible).

There can be nobody in the club sitting there thinking this is a goid thing. Nobody. Not even that fcuking CEO, who must know his days at the club are soon to end.

I am aware many will see it differently. So what.
No one thinks this is a good thing, of course. They're losing lots of money, that's why they think it's a bad thing.

I just don't believe they will do anything other than trying to fix this the ENIC way, which is "well, perhaps we can forego good and just be good enough on the cheap"

They always overrate the players in the dressing room - they think a manager can get more out of the players already present.

The ENIC way would be to sell enough quality players to make up for the revenue shortfalls and then try to do patchwork fixes with cheap signings and loan players. Just enough to get up, not enough to assure it, too risky that we could go an overspend if we did that.

We'd all pray they learn from this mistake but it's been 20 years of mistakes and they've never done anything other than the minimum.
 
I'm starting to think that as our players seem to be intimidated by our own stadium. when supporters lined the streets to try and give them an extra lift before they got off the coach, it has actually increased the intimidation for these saps.

Not only do they not deserve the support, they can't handle it, they can't feed off of it, they can't turn that positive energy into anything, they can't maintain focus, they keep making lapses.

They are a bunch of fannies.
Its because its a broken dressing room.

Every 5-10 games there is basically a different set of players with no cohesion, every time a player gets in a bit of form and we start creating some good on field relationships they get injured or manager seems to drop them because with pressure, bad decisions happen more often. Add in the poor leadership of our team aswell, they struggle to cope.

Joe Hart said it right, they're fragile and collapse in big moments.
 
No one thinks this is a good thing, of course. They're losing lots of money, that's why they think it's a bad thing.

I just don't believe they will do anything other than trying to fix this the ENIC way, which is "well, perhaps we can forego good and just be good enough on the cheap"

They always overrate the players in the dressing room - they think a manager can get more out of the players already present.

The ENIC way would be to sell enough quality players to make up for the revenue shortfalls and then try to do patchwork fixes with cheap signings and loan players. Just enough to get up, not enough to assure it, too risky that we could go an overspend if we did that.

We'd all pray they learn from this mistake but it's been 20 years of mistakes and they've never done anything other than the minimum.

Nothing could have foreseen this season and 200 plus million in the summer window is hardly peanuts.

The failing in the winter window and holding on to Fearful Frank are massively contributory.

I think everyone, including the fans and players are just in shock.

Eat the board think, fcuk knows.

7 games.
 
I've reached the point where if we can only get Dyche on a long-term deal, just do it. If he keeps us up then he deserves next season anyway, and the cost of the deal has paid for itself. The football will be total shit, but at least he can drill a better attitude into these sorry pricks. We can always sack him after next season if it's proper turgid. I don't trust De Zerbi to keep us up. Just play it safe.
 
Maddison won’t be back till next season if he’s got any sense.

About half of players with ACL injuries are back by now. If he doesn’t play this season then he is basically taking money for doing nothing. As a club we seem to be great at having players take money for nothing lie Ndombele. I don’t see Maddison as being that way so suspect he will be back soon.
 
We still have it in our own hands to avoid relegation – it's incomprehensible how the term "relegation" and Tottenham Hotspur FC can be associated. Seven matchdays in which everyone has the opportunity to show that they are willing to be a team and prevent this catastrophe.

We have to do it!
 
Even after all this shit still think 10 pts would just about do it, especially if one of the wins is Leeds.

In normal circumstances you'd be fuming if you couldnt pick up 10 pts from our remaining fixtures but when you're in your worst winless run in 91 years it feels nigh on impossible to then dig out 3 from 7. Have to beat Sunderland really and hope for the best but just cant see it.

The club looks rudderless, no leadership and the players heads have gone completely.
 
Anyone that thinks if we go down (god forbid) we will bounce straight back needs to give their heads a wobble.
The Championship is brutal, extra matches, TV matches at stupid times, everyone out for us. Lose at least half the current team, it will be tough.
I was there in 77 and as Nutter-Naylor Nutter-Naylor said somewhere, sometime, the players were so connected to the fans. Not this lot.
77/78 was the best year ever. It won't be the same.
COYS
Losing half the team would probably make us stronger, as long as we employ someone capable of buying the players we need, rather than just ones that are sort of available.
 
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