Probably.
But we have 5 points from the last 13 games.
I'm now at the point of thinking even if we had a fit Kudus, Madison and Deki back after the break, this ship is headed for the jetty and nobody can stop it crashing.
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Management Relegation
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But we have 5 points from the last 13 games.
I'm now at the point of thinking even if we had a fit Kudus, Madison and Deki back after the break, this ship is headed for the jetty and nobody can stop it crashing.
The UK doesn’t have a working class anymore anyway.
Young fans either go with their parents who can afford or they stay on their phones.
I said in another thread, it would be interesting to see what happened to be atmosphere if we went down and tickets were cheaper. Certainly another phase of the Tottenham Hotspur social experiment
Our home record in Europe is unreal
TBH, I stopped singing after WHL because at Wembley and at the new stadium, I feel too far away to be a part of it. Even the back of the south stand was closer to the pitch than the middle of anywhere in the new stadium.
That and the fact the football has gone down the shitter in the ensuing years.
Anyone that thinks if we go down (god forbid) we will bounce straight back needs to give their heads a wobble.
The Championship is brutal, extra matches, TV matches at stupid times, everyone out for us. Lose at least half the current team, it will be tough.
I was there in 77 and asNutter-Naylor said somewhere, sometime, the players were so connected to the fans. Not this lot.
77/78 was the best year ever. It won't be the same.
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Uncharted territory
No club as big as spurs has ever been relegated. Newcastle, villa, ham, Leeds..all big clubs but financially we operate in a different dimension to what they had when relegated.
So it's really quite bizarre and unknowable what will happen to us next season in championship
If I had to give an educated guess, I'd probably say it would more closely mirror Newcastles championship season in 2016
Sold off a handful of their big names like sissoko to us
But kept alot of their players and Still signed a few new players .
Straight back up well clear of playoffs
It's nigh on impossible to understand how we can be winless this year and yet still outside the relegation zone. Bewildering.
I don't know how it will pan out, but I do think the 3-week break may well be the period that saves us.
It’ll be a while before we try to continue that run unfortunately
Definitely not next season
I think we'd come back up. Even with selling a ton of players we'd have a better squad and much better resources than anyone else. Look at how well the likes of Philips and Lankshear etc are doing in poor champo teams. Look at how shite Southampton were last season in the prem and the first third of this season and they will still make the play offs. We would need a decent manager which given our track record might not be easy but if we got that think we'd be ok. Think Newcastle is a good example given our likely relegation sort of mirrors their decline in 2015.Uncharted territory
No club as big as spurs has ever been relegated. Newcastle, villa, ham, Leeds..all big clubs but financially we operate in a different dimension to what they had when relegated.
So it's really quite bizarre and unknowable what will happen to us next season in championship
If I had to give an educated guess, I'd probably say it would more closely mirror Newcastles championship season in 2016
Sold off a handful of their big names like sissoko to us
But kept alot of their players and Still signed a few new players .
Straight back up well clear of playoffs
Maybe we can qualify for Europe via the FA Vase in a few seasons ?
See, I am not sure. I have just been listening to view from the lane and they have given me a whole load of reasons when I look at each fixture as to why we won’t win it. Playing a lot of teams like forest who will sit back and just hit us where it hurts because we are too lazy to pick up runners and people at corners. Plus the other teams we play are just better than us like Villa and Chelsea. When you go through fixture by fixture, there are so many reasons why we won’t win each one.
I was still fairly open to us being okay until I actually drilled down into each match and when you do that it is quite frightening
I think too many people at Spurs still can't see this is a likely scenario now, not an unlikely one.
Our last win was Dec 28th, Vs Palace, where we were 11th.
We were 12 points above West Ham.
They have made up 11 points on us in 13 games.
It's actually not impossible to understand. We all but gave up taking points from matches at that point. We have been dropping down, steadily, ever since.
West Ham's next match is Wolves at home on a Friday, where they'll likely win and put us in the bottom 3.
Our game isn't until Sunday, away to Sunderland, where we WILL lose.
Last season, Southamptons worst run was 1 win from 12 games.
Ours is 4 draws from 12. We're almost as bad as they were.
Last season we finished with 5 points from 12 games. The one win was against that Southampton.
This has been coming for 2.5 years.
Sticking with Ange in the summer of 2024 is as catastrophic as some of us thought it would be. Actually worse.
It's impossible to understand.
Newcastle when they went down kept about 50% of their seniors, Villa on the other hand had a total clear out. Newcastle came straight back and Villa didn’t. Lesson is we can lose Romero, VDC, Udogie, Porro and Vicario but we will need to keep Bergvall, Gray, , Maddison, Danso etc. people posting championship squads with a team not including Danso and Bergvall are basically saying the club has decided to willingly stay in the Championship and will fire sale to bring in £300-400m and not give a shit.
If the club has any sense they will sell the failing seniors like Romero and VDV, keep the kids and good pros like Danso.
Yep
loose the back 5, you lose Kudus , the loaned in players, Simons and maybe Gallagher and that's it. That's already 10 out the door in one summer.
The rest are locked in
I suspect it will depends what offers we get for players. Obviously we'd all like to keep Archie Gray, for example, but if we get a big offer for him but nobody wants Sarr, we'll probably sell Gray. We'd all like to keep Vuskovic but his stock is so high right now that we might feel that selling him is inevitable.
My view is that the players' heads have already been turned.
Also, these players have never been in a relegation scrap before. Sure, last season was a bit of a scare, but the teams that were relegated were so far gone.
These teams in the relegation mix have been in this situation before. Not only that, but the players have a desire to stay in the PL. It seems the big Spurs players know they will have teams looking at them if they get relegated so they don't really care.
These same players also seem to be the ones who "step up" (or the best version of that right now), when playing against the bigger teams, because they know there's more eyes on them. Such as Pool, Atletico (yes I know second leg only), City... I don't know, for me I just get that feeling.
Also, these players have never been in a relegation scrap before. Sure, last season was a bit of a scare, but the teams that were relegated were so far gone.
These teams in the relegation mix have been in this situation before. Not only that, but the players have a desire to stay in the PL. It seems the big Spurs players know they will have teams looking at them if they get relegated so they don't really care.
These same players also seem to be the ones who "step up" (or the best version of that right now), when playing against the bigger teams, because they know there's more eyes on them. Such as Pool, Atletico (yes I know second leg only), City... I don't know, for me I just get that feeling.
It's an incredible stadium but a bouncy castle would be a better fortress right now.
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