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Player Cristian Romero
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I think this is the issue: the people who talk about Romero as our one "world class" player seem to be talking about an alternate reality where Romero is always available and playing at somewhere near to his his best regularly for Spurs.
Reality is we've seen Romero at or near his best for maybe...30-40% of the games he could've theoretically played for the club. Once you take into account injuries, suspensions and bad performances he's spent the majority of his time at Spurs being a bit flaky/average/shit/unavailable. That's not "world class".
Maybe it's simply because peak Romero is so good people can't get over it, but the reality is, all the genuinely top CBs in the league are SO much more consistently available, reliable and on form than Romero has been at Spurs. And that's why outside of the Spurs bubble no neutrals or rival fans consider Romero in the top bracket of CBs.
I'd sell him this summer regardless of where we end up. Think we need to draw a line under the Romero era.
Like I've said repeatedly. We don't miss him, which says it all. He's a liabiility. Along with Vicario, he can't fuck off fast enough.
I remember the days when we used to actually feel such a weaker team when King was unavailable, or even Toby or Jan. Does anyone seriously feel that with Romero missing?
I'm sure he'd play better now we have a proper coach in charge, but the reality is, for a supposed top player, he went missing when we needed him most.
He's simply not as good as some of the fanbase think he is.
I remember the days when we used to actually feel such a weaker team when King was unavailable, or even Toby or Jan. Does anyone seriously feel that with Romero missing?
I'm sure he'd play better now we have a proper coach in charge, but the reality is, for a supposed top player, he went missing when we needed him most.
He's simply not as good as some of the fanbase think he is.
I think you're wrong.
De Zerbi needs to say what he says because we are in a relegation fight so naturally he's going 'to big up' the captain.
We need to secure safety first before I start even thinking about who stays and who goes but Romero should be sold regardless of league (and Vicario).
Yeah that's possible. I don't get that vibe but it's certainly possible. Again it probably depends on our plans for Vusco and if we stay up.
Vicario will almost certainly go - I doubt very much that De Zerbi will want to lose Romero but I could be wrong.
I would be nervous about who we replace him with though. Maybe De Zerbi has his own targets so we don't have to live with whatever Lange's algorithm throws up.
I think in theory Romero is a perfect RDZ player: passionate, good on the ball, great at passing through the lines.
Maybe he'll be tempted to try and 'tame' him? Romero was probably at his best under Conte, another strong-willed Italian with a set system of play.
However, personally I'm just sick of him, the endless bans and injuries and drama. The headache of him as a terrible captain and supposed talisman when he keeps letting us down. Just fuck him off and get someone reliable. There's too much baggage and English refs have it in for him.
Mate the same people want pretty much all of our players sold. Which would be fine but they seem to get upset when reality sets in and don't somehow upgrade every position in our squad in one window.
I don't mind Senesi but as an addition not as a replacement. I'm sure De Zerbi will have targets in mind though - he levelled up the Brighton CB's when he was there.
I think he polarises the support. Can't argue with what you say here at all.Well you'll have to take it up with De Zerbi not me so... Whatever.
I will just pick you up on one small thing though. When you said this:
We're coming up on the one year anniversary of Bilbao. That's when we won our first European Trophy for 40 years.
Christian Romero was the Player of that Tournament and Man of the Match in the final. So I disagree that he's "been bringing this club's mentality down for the past 18 months". I would level that charge at the incompetent people in charge of our club who replaced a trophy winning manager with a pragmatist whose first promise was that we'd lose games.
But maybe that's just me.
But, I think we can do better. Someone who can bring more stability and assuredness across a season. A decent CB, and the temperament to avoid the things Romero does that we all wish he doesn't.
One shouldn’t be, no. But I’ve seen on here and elsewhere some talk of the last two matches being proof positive we are better without him. Which is shite. If anyone feels we are better off without him for more widescale reasons, that’s just dandy. But to be quoting the last two matches as full evidence is nuttier than squirrel spunk.
Sure but the problem is we can also do much much worse - and our recent history in the transfer market doesn't give me much confidence.
I get that he's polarising and maybe it's for the best for both parties if he moves on BUT I tend to believe that we should be surrounding our better players with other better players which usually raises the floor and ceiling for all concerned. this is the mistake we keep making - selling Kane, Son, even going back to Dembele/Walker/Eriksen - and just not replacing them with similar quality. It's been a constant drain and then we find ourselves in the situation we are in.
Vuscovic looks to be a real talent though. So maybe that helps.
Yeah, I did sort of assume we had a competent recruitment strategy when I was writing that.
But, now you've reminded me...
Who is the most Tarkowski-like defender in the league these days? One that isn’t actually James Tarkowski. Just a guy who sees the ball coming and fucking leathers it as far away as he possibly can. No fucking about.
We get that guy, I’ll pay for Romoero’s plane ticket.
We get that guy, I’ll pay for Romoero’s plane ticket.
We must get rid of all the bad influences, starting at board level. But yeah, Romero & co can fuck right off.
Vuskovic would be a starter here, without question
Probably throw out Romero, which would simply validate what many say - don't know what they are doing.
These circular arguments are such fun.
Why on loan to prem team. If we stay up
We are a prem team can we not loan him to ourselves.
People said we couldn’t sack Ange because Romero and everyone else loved him and would leave, aka the “he has the dressing room” crowd but they’re still here. No one left because Ange was rightfully sacked. I would bet that the players will want to be part of what they have seen from RDZ if we stay up
He actually has value which is part of it. But also while he seems a good player on his day he’s been a major part of the two worst Spurs teams in recent memory. We clearly just need to recycle some personalities because whatever we have going on…isn’t working. And a lot of people grow tired of the tough guy act. Which I do too, but my biggest gripe is it’s out of laziness half the time. He’d rather take someone out and get a card and then act like it’s a hard ass mentality rather than stand up and do his damn job.