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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 184 40.1%
  • No

    Votes: 275 59.9%

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Okay let me make it more simpler for you.
Our Home record is the WORSE in the league.
If we do go down, that will be the reason people look to …
my theory on the home form is we bought players that aren't up to the stadium level. i think our b grade players are wilting in this world class stadium and that's the flaw in enic's master plan. if you're going to build a 20k seat white wall and fill it with the huge passionate supporters then you need the level of player who wants the pressure of playing in front of it rather than shrink from it.
 
Unfortunately the result last night will give West Ham a boost not sure what the Newcastle result will be but obviously much rather have West Ham going there four points behind us and absolutely having to win
.A draw there for them would leave them with a decent chance of staying up .
 
I don't think West Ham will get anything against Newcastle but we really could've done with winning last night.

I don't think RDZ got anything particularly wrong last night - he's inherited an absolute mess.

I'm still trying to look at the positves:

- Kinsky made two unbelievable saves to make sure we got a point. I really hope the kids confidence has regenerated now.
- Madders coming back and looking making a really good cameo.
 
Only when we know will we know but last night was the difference between no further pressure on West Ham, a bit more (what we applied), and a lot (the preference).

The only result West Ham can and would they have been playing for against Newcastle is a win. Had we lost yesterday we were still a point ahead and with a far superior goal difference, effectively leaving West Ham gambling.

All we did by getting the one point yesterday is give West Ham a small opening, which Santo will probably equate to 2 wins.

If West Ham lose on Sunday, and it's 2 losses on the bounce, we don't have to win either of our last 2 games.

A fair bit depends on Howe and his messaging to his Newcastle players. All teams want to win their last home game of the season in front of their own fans, ahead of walking round the pitch.
 
I don't think West Ham will get anything against Newcastle but we really could've done with winning last night.

I don't think RDZ got anything particularly wrong last night - he's inherited an absolute mess.

I'm still trying to look at the positves:

- Kinsky made two unbelievable saves to make sure we got a point. I really hope the kids confidence has regenerated now.
- Madders coming back and looking making a really good cameo.
Madders coming back is going to be key for us due to our lack of passing and creativity. Him being able to play ~60 minutes against the chavs would be huge.
 
I have seen a decent number of social media comments that said, from fans of rival clubs, including Chelsea, that they don’t want to see us go down because losing a rival makes the game less interesting. No one really considers Spam a rival on the same order. And if you are Chelsea you feel that you never lose to us so it is a comfortable situation.
I just spoke to a Newcastle fan at work ( ST holdeR) and while he said it would be funny for Spurs to go down, they want to finish above Sunderland, I have seen a lot of accounts online saying different, however they just want interactions so they get paid..... any way fuck them all, win our next 2 games and we are staying up regardless, I'm taking our position over West ham!
 
Unfortunately the result last night will give West Ham a boost not sure what the Newcastle result will be but obviously much rather have West Ham going there four points behind us and absolutely having to win
.A draw there for them would leave them with a decent chance of staying up .
I'm glad we're playing Chelsea 3 days after a cup final rather than Newcastle in their last home game with a few of their top players back
They will absolutely smash spam
 
my theory on the home form is we bought players that aren't up to the stadium level. i think our b grade players are wilting in this world class stadium and that's the flaw in enic's master plan. if you're going to build a 20k seat white wall and fill it with the huge passionate supporters then you need the level of player who wants the pressure of playing in front of it rather than shrink from it.
I'm not sure what it is, but I don't think its as simple as that, if that was the case surely its even harder to perfom away when its all rival fans?
 
All we did by getting the one point yesterday is give West Ham a small opening, which Santo will probably equate to 2 wins.
If we lost though, we would have needed to win 1 of our remaining games if West ham win any of their 2, by getting a point it means now that if they lose away to Newcastle we only need 1 point from the remaining 2 games to stay up, even if they Draw with Newcastle we can stay up by just winning 1 game or drawing them both.
I wouldn't want to be playing Newcastle away needing a win, I get we have Chelsea away but by the time we play we will know what is needed
 
I don't think RDZ got anything particularly wrong last night - he's inherited an absolute mess.
I think he's got a lot right considering we got one jammy point from the previous 5 and a situation where he's 3rd manager this season
could easlity have got the win v Brighton
could easily have got the win last night
A red card for Sunderland (dunno what the score was then) but likely we don't lost it at 1-0 and likely win it at 0-0

With a vit of luck, and less stupdidty from the players he could be on 13/15, maybe 15/15 and we'd be building a bloody great statue
 
Our last two games are against teams in bad form.

Everyone seems to be writing off the game at the Bridge next week. And yeah if we go into the game thinking we'll lose then we definitely will. Or we can go into the game seeing that it's a team in really bad form that we could get a result from.

Everton are also in bad form. Winless in their last 5. They have Sunderland at home next week and its possible that they might go into our game mathematically out of Europe already.

It was just the other day people were treating it like a foregone conclusion that West Ham were down. Now one game later its the exact opposite. Some of you need to get a grip.

Chelsea are 14th in the home table for the season, getting something is not a write off at all.

They have drawn / lost combined twice as many as they have won + we are less shit away.

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Newcastle's home form is ok, won as many as lost / drawn, 9 v 9
 
If we lost though, we would have needed to win 1 of our remaining games if West ham win any of their 2, by getting a point it means now that if they lose away to Newcastle we only need 1 point from the remaining 2 games to stay up, even if they Draw with Newcastle we can stay up by just winning 1 game or drawing them both.
I wouldn't want to be playing Newcastle away needing a win, I get we have Chelsea away but by the time we play we will know what is needed

We want Newcastle to win. It changes so much about what we need to do.
 
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