Just remove the pillow chocolates to take it down to four stars
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Management Vinai Venkatesham - CEO
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The issues are big. Its why weve finished 17th two seasons in a row
Every aspect of the football club needs forensic examination to see why we have failed so badly.
Yeah that my bad phrasing to be fair when responding while being nagged by the better half to get ready for the day!
Meant to say I think we've got bigger issues. Will amend.
I don’t think so.
I’m as pessimistic as the next man, but I think we will do really well. The three newly promoted sides are going straight back down. The likes of Bournemouth, Brighton and Sunderland will struggle massively with European football.
Scum will get sidelined by PGMOL. They ain’t getting anything. All that ‘luck’ will transfer to UTD. City are getting a 60 point deduction.
We’ve been through the absolute ringer and emerged the other side. Our revenge tour begins in earnest.
Think we’ll be Top 6.
aka "We thought binning off one man would solve all the problems but, weirdly enough, it might be because we've never actually put our hands in our pockets. You can imagine our surprise when it turns out the club wasn't magically running itself against all odds.
This will require investment, which is absolutely news to us and we'll find a way to blame that on the past instead of actually admitting that we should have done this from the beginning"
Lange should be recommending players of course, but it’s the head honchos job to direct him and intercede in something as vital as this.
You don’t need to be an expert to know we needed reinforcements in January.
Big words by Venkatesham and the Lewis' , but just words all the same .
I consider myself a fair man , so I will judge them at the end of the summer xfer window .
I need to see a clear and concise process in the xfer dealings at levels that show that they are backing up their words .
I don't expect it to be done in one window , but this window needs to set precedents for the future .
I consider myself a fair man , so I will judge them at the end of the summer xfer window .
I need to see a clear and concise process in the xfer dealings at levels that show that they are backing up their words .
I don't expect it to be done in one window , but this window needs to set precedents for the future .
But he inherited Lange......Lange was Levy's pick
What does that have to do with it?!
He can tell him to buy players, whether Levy employed him or not.
You couldn't be more wrong. The training ground being too comfortable has long been an issue and many fans have opined that there was an issue with the culture of the club, and players treating it like a holiday resort rather than a profesional football club, and we also thought it was because of Levy.
Just because we had a brief good period under Poch, the rest of the time we've underachieved massively.
Levy fostered a culture where everyone at the club knew winning wasn't important. Football success was not at the heart of the decision making, and that rubbed off on the players and made us flakey and losers basically.
Combine that with poor recruitment and poor manager hires, that is why we are in this mess.
If Lange and Frank decided to stick with what we had??? Then what? You want the club to buy players over the heads of the sporting director and manager?
It doesn't work like that. Either we want our CEO to trust the football people at the club to make decisions, or you want Vinai to order football people around and make all the decisions, like erm, Levy.
The problem clearly is and was, that the people Vinai trusted to make the decisions, the expert, was Lange. And Lange is totally out of his depth and basically a poor Sporting Director.
What Vinai has done is what all the fans have been crying out for for years, and why many wanted Levy gone. We don't want an autocrat dominating the club.
Vinai trusted Lange to make the football decisions, and Lange recommened we keep Frank. So Vinai trusted that decision.
Remember Vinai didn't hire Lange. If we get a proper top class SD in at the club, and Vinai then trusts the person to run the club, we will be in a much better place, than what we had before, with non footballing people making footballing decisions.
So much bullshit in his interview.
Same shit next season if he stays.
Same shit next season if he stays.
I dont think the training ground has anything to do with the culture
Just as it being luxurious or whatever doesnt make players lazy
Culture comes from leadership, not surroundings
Better equipment and facilities is no bad thing at all - how it is used, how people are expected to behave is what is the important part
I am not talking about the furnishings. I am talking about the players seeing it as a resort rather than a place of work.
The culture at the training ground has been an issue for years. The training ground absolutely has everything to do with the culture, as that is where the players train.
The fact Vinai specifically mentions it shows that this is actually an issue, not something I have made up.
If the current structure is staying in place they better have a truly magic transfer window in store, we are going into the season with 2 major squad players out for at least half of it in Simons and Odobert, big question marks over the standard Kulusevski and Maddison will return at, a scary amount of chaff to cull from the squad and a captain who clearly wants out of the club at the earliest given opportunity.
If rumours are true that Palhinha would rather go to Sporting than come here knowing he will be loved by the fans and playing at a much higher standard in the league it's a damning indictment of where we will be with regards to attraction in the market, we are gonna have to shell out over the odds on fees and wages on players that realistically will only start pulling us back into the "top half side" category, it's going to be a tricky few years IMO and we are riding the margin of relegation so closely every decision made needs to be the right one from now on.
If rumours are true that Palhinha would rather go to Sporting than come here knowing he will be loved by the fans and playing at a much higher standard in the league it's a damning indictment of where we will be with regards to attraction in the market, we are gonna have to shell out over the odds on fees and wages on players that realistically will only start pulling us back into the "top half side" category, it's going to be a tricky few years IMO and we are riding the margin of relegation so closely every decision made needs to be the right one from now on.
At the end of the day
Aphex
actions speak louder than words and until our fans see some action you can't blame the fanbase for being cynical especially since we nearly got fekin relegated and we've been in this cycle for the past 20 odd years, people need to vent at someone and Levy used to get it, now it's Vinai's turn, it's what it is.
No, he will be going home to Sporting Lisbon. That's the pull, maybe at his age he has other priorities and wants a different life.