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Manager Antonio Conte

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Some people turning quickly. I'd have preferred a ten Hag / Potter type myself but Conte is worth running with now that we have him imo. We win lots of games and...yeah.

He's had his pants pulled down in games at Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford and the Emirates this season, and we were crap away to West Ham. Not good enough at all. Hopefully it improves.

Potter was the fit. Howe to an extent. Progressive managers but not yet proven winners and that was key..

Conte is very good. No doubt at all but he is not yet showing he can take a group of players who aren't fron the top tier to the top table.

That is a problem.
 
For me, I'm Conte In until the end of the season barring a monumental collapse in results.

I think he'll have us in the Top 4 race which is exactly where we all assumed we'd be at the start of the year. There is no one else better out there now that Potter is rocked up at Chelsea.

This is about the players in my view. These players are just not good enough. Aside from a few (Romero, Kane, Deki), they are all technically inferior. We bumble the ball around the pitch constantly and misplace fairly easy passes to feet on a consistent basis. It takes most of our players two touches to control anything. It's a fucking disgrace to the beautiful game.
Your last paragraph has hit the nail fully on the head. Some of the passing tonight was so far past bad it was embarrassing. Worse than sunday league. No matter what manager is here the players will mainly remain the same.
For the first time under conte im worried going forward. Im hoping its just a blip but it was so bad tonight mixed in with Woolwich game these players cant take pressure
 
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he can take a group of players who aren't fron the top tier to the top table
thats almost an impossible job though. you are not going to get average footballers beating elite footballers no matter who the manager is or what the system is. some of the shit weve had over the years is a joke! who was the last player to leave here for better things? bale? fucking joke! the rest have dropped levels for a fucking reason!! they got found out and taken to their actual level.

we dont have a squad of average players some are very good. but when 3-4 average ones creep into the 11 the standard comes crashing down. dier, davies, sanchez, emerson....all defenders who were not good enough before and now we play a system that requires the defence to be good.
 
Potter was the fit. Howe to an extent. Progressive managers but not yet proven winners and that was key..

Conte is very good. No doubt at all but he is not yet showing he can take a group of players who aren't fron the top tier to the top table.

That is a problem.
He took Ashley Young and other average joes to a title. He COULD do it if the circumstances suit him.

But the game has passed him by. Everyone plays high pressing, quick pass and move football now in a 4 3 3 formation.

The Italian Big Sam needs to come up with a different game plan and quick.
 
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Those two wouldn’t have commanded the clout needed to get levy to spend and replace Hitchen.
Then that all points to a different root of our problems...we should fix that one as well becuase after Conte's gone after this season we are back to square one with HK 1 year left on contract and Sonny @30. Levy better hope we get CL but on the evidence tonight United are going to be a bigger threat for it.
 
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Football isnt that difficult. Pass and move. Keep possession. Press high up the pitch. Close down quickly.

People get caught up with these hipster managers and their “system”. Contes system essentially revolves around 2 wing backs playing out of their skin each week. Thats it. Thats the plan. And if he hasnt got the best of the best, guess what, he struggles.

Thats why I put way more respect on the craft of a guy like Sean Dyche, who for years kept Burney playing in the most competitive league in the world even when he didnt always get the best of the best or his own perfect set up.

Thats what Spurs need. A guy in for the long run that can work with the tools at his disposal whilst implementing a solid style. Need a guy with a bit of something about him that can cope without having golden toilets or unlimited funds.

Thats what Pochettino did. Even if the players werent the best, he had us playing effectively by having the players extremely conditioned, played a high line and closing down the ball very quickly and covered the most ground. Just these simple things alone allowed us to compete at the top for so long despite the lack of funds
 

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