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Igula

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As a irish spurs fan with a celtic affinity how are celtic fans vile?? Because they wont wear a symbol of an army and country that have killed millions of the same people who founded theyre club?
Would you wear a swastika and the germans killed maybe 1/10 through direct warfare that was killed in ireland since 1200 through famine war pestilence

Are you really trying to suggest that the poppy and swatzika are comparable?
 
As a irish spurs fan with a celtic affinity how are celtic fans vile?? Because they wont wear a symbol of an army and country that have killed millions of the same people who founded theyre club?
Would you wear a swastika and the germans killed maybe 1/10 through direct warfare that was killed in ireland since 1200 through famine war pestilence
Always surprised me that Celtic formed up way back in 1888 in a British City/Country and not in Ireland...
 
As a irish spurs fan with a celtic affinity how are celtic fans vile?? Because they wont wear a symbol of an army and country that have killed millions of the same people who founded theyre club?
Would you wear a swastika and the germans killed maybe 1/10 through direct warfare that was killed in ireland since 1200 through famine war pestilence
No, nor would I walk through the streets of a town chanting the name of a young man that was hacked to death in the street simply because he was a British solider chanting not in a supportive way......good old Celtic fans.
 
No, nor would I walk through the streets of a town chanting the name of a young man that was hacked to death in the street simply because he was a British solider chanting not in a supportive way......good old Celtic fans.
Would you accept british soldiers shooting innocent civilians on the streets of manchester london or liverpool etc
 
My personal opinion is no. But in parts of ireland it would be yes
Hard to imagine people can be that ignorant, to assign some primeval feelings of hatred to a paper copy of a flower or to a sacred religious symbol (long before Hitler) says far more about the limited intelligence of your Irish brethren than it does about those symbols. Do those same people also despise the Celtic Cross used by Norwegian Nazi's, multiple other White Supremacist groups, and for years featured on the Celtic strip?
 
Hard to imagine people can be that ignorant, to assign some primeval feelings of hatred to a paper copy of a flower or to a sacred religious symbol (long before Hitler) says far more about the limited intelligence of your Irish brethren than it does about those symbols. Do those same people also despise the Celtic Cross used by Norwegian Nazi's, multiple other White Supremacist groups, and for years featured on the Celtic strip?
Limited intelligence? 😂😂
 
Hard to imagine people can be that ignorant, to assign some primeval feelings of hatred to a paper copy of a flower or to a sacred religious symbol (long before Hitler) says far more about the limited intelligence of your Irish brethren than it does about those symbols. Do those same people also despise the Celtic Cross used by Norwegian Nazi's, multiple other White Supremacist groups, and for years featured on the Celtic strip?
Why would celtic change their crest because hate groups hijack that symbol??
 
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Lampard?! To be honest, my main hope - which will never happen - is that Rangers and Celtic both fold or move to Belfast. Leave Scotland for Scottish clubs.
 
Lampard?! To be honest, my main hope - which will never happen - is that Rangers and Celtic both fold or move to Belfast. Leave Scotland for Scottish clubs.
There was a Belfast Celtic but it folded due to sectarian intimidation

Early years​

The club, formed in 1891 simply as Celtic, was named after Celtic Football Club of Glasgow. Upon incorporation as a limited company in 1901, however, was known colloquially as the Belfast Celts, the title "The Celtic Football & Athletic Company Ltd" already being officially registered by the Glasgow club.[4] Their home from the same year was Celtic Park on Donegall Road in west Belfast, known to the fans as "Paradise".[5] Celtic won their first league title in 1900 after beating fierce rivals Linfield by a single goal.

The severe political violence that began to engulf Ireland in the 1920s spilled onto the pitches and terraces of the Irish League. In 1920, the Irish Football Association fined and suspended the club following violent incidents at the Irish Cup semi-final. Celtic was forced to abandon their participation in the 1920–21 season, and did not rejoin the league until 1924–25 season.[6] Celtic's support base was strongly Irish nationalist and Catholic but it is important to note that the club also enjoyed significant support from some local east Belfast Unionists and Protestants, who accounted for about 10 percent of the fan base.[2]

Despite the background of political turmoil, the club went from strength to strength and the inter-war period proved to be Celtic's strongest: they were league champions four years running after their return to the league. The club also produced some of the greatest players of their generation, and at one stage had five international goalkeepers in their squad.


1948–49: Withdrawal from the Irish League and North American tour​

The catalyst for the end of the club came on 26 December 1948, at the traditional Boxing Day league game between Linfield and Celtic at Windsor Park. Celtic were winning for most of the match but Linfield equalised in the final minute. Ecstatic Linfield fans invaded the pitch and began attacking several Celtic players, including centre-forward Jimmy Jones, who suffered a broken leg and was kicked unconscious, and Robin Lawlor and Kevin McAlinden, who were both seriously hurt.[7][8]

Linfield issued a statement in which they blamed the attack on continual provocation from Celtic. Celtic's own statement, whilst equally blaming Linfield, focused particular criticism on the police who were present, who remained passive and made no arrests: "During the whole of this concerted attack the protection afforded to the unfortunate players may be fairly described as quite inadequate. In the circumstances the directors wish to make the strongest possible protest against the conduct of those responsible for the protection of the players in failing to take measures either to prevent the brutal attack or to deal with it with any degree of effectiveness after it developed."[2]

Celtic also felt the response from the Irish Football Association was wholly inadequate. The team's management met on the night of the match and decided that the club had no option other than to withdraw entirely from the league after the end of the 1949 season.[2][8] Northern Irish journalist Frank Curran later commented, "[Belfast F.C.] knew that it wasn't a football problem, and that there was nothing they as a football club could do to end it. So they got out."[2]

Belfast Celtic played their final Irish League match on Thursday April 21 1949 when they defeated Cliftonville 4–3 at Celtic Park.[9]

The club then went on a 10-game tour of the United States and Canada in May and June 1949. The dates of the tour forced the team to withdraw from the County Antrim Shield after qualifying to the semi-final, in which they were replaced by Linfield, whom they had earlier beaten 4–0.[10] While the team was preparing to set sail for New York, it was announced publicly that Celtic intended to leave the league, pending the final decision of the club's shareholders at their annual meeting in June.[6][11][12]

In New York City, the team were embraced as political martyrs by Irish nationalists. The team were introduced to New York City Mayor William O'Dwyer, a native of County Mayo, at New York City Hall on 4 May. They were presented by Deputy Commissioner Sean P. Keating, an IRA member, with a commemorative solid silver sugar bowl. Manager Elisha Scott fastened the club's pin, featuring the team's green and gold harp logo, upon the mayor's lapel.[13] The first tour match was played 8 May 1949 against a representative team of players from the Greater New York professional American League clubs Brookhattan, Brooklyn Hispano and Brooklyn Hakoah at Triborough Stadium in New York City.[14]

There was a public uproar in Northern Ireland when a photograph of the team marching behind an Irish tricolour flag before a match in New York was published in the Belfast Telegraph on 11 May. Likely fearing that the incident would ensure the end of the team in Belfast, the Protestant Elisha Scott[3] sent a letter signed by seven of the players in which he explained the incident and claimed that the team was loyal to the United Kingdom:


"Before the game the team was requested by the American Soccer League officials to parade in single file round the Stadium, led by myself. Half-way round, Mr Connolly, editor of the Irish Echo, New York, took down a Tricolour which was flying in front of the enclosure. He requested me to carry one end and proceed in front of the team. We considered it better to carry on with the parade. Since then, steps have been taken to ensure against a recurrence. On the other side of the picture, which has apparently received no publicity, I may say that while the team was in Toronto, the King was toasted at a dinner given in honour of the Belfast Celtic Club, and further, before the match in Toronto, both teams stood to attention while the British National Anthem was played."[15]

On 29 May, Celtic defeated Scotland 2-0 in front of 15,000 fans at Triborough Stadium. Fights broke out during the second half, including Scotland's Willie Waddell and Celtic's Mick O'Flanagan throwing punches. The New York Times reported that the American crowd was overwhelmingly partisan in favour of the Scots, cheering any of the referee's decisions against Celtic. Reported The Times, "The game held the crowd spellbound from beginning to end. Part of the reason was that it had come to see a highly favored Scots eleven—a team that had won the British Isles triple crown before 97,000 at Wembley Stadium last month—take the Irish into camp. Instead, the throng saw an inspired Belfast combination score once in the opening session and again in the second half to sew up the decision."[16][17] The game was Scotland's only defeat during their nine-match tour of North America[18] and it became one of the most famous in Celtic's history. Scotland have never since played a club team.[19]

At the time, no specific reason was given to the public for the team's withdrawal from the Irish League. The club quietly sold all its players to other teams. Crusaders replaced Belfast Celtic in the league but fans were left without any official explanation for the withdrawal. In a 2011 profile, The Guardian spoke with Celtic fan Jimmy Overend, then 86, about the void left by the team's exit:


Of the demise of the club, which had lit up the lives of politically oppressed, impoverished Catholics such as himself, a general labourer, Overend laments: "It was like a black cloud coming down, as if there was nothing to live for or look forward to on a Saturday. It's a grief which never went away."[3]

Post-exit from league​

The club would never again play a competitive match but played several friendlies, including a match at home to Glasgow Celtic on 17 May 1952, when a team of ex-Belfast Celtic players took the field under the name of 'Newry F.C.' in aid of De La Salle Boys' Home in County Down. A final match—a testimonial—was played at Coleraine on 24 June 1960.

Celtic Park continued to function as a greyhound racing stadium until 1985, when it was demolished and replaced by the Park Centre, a small shopping centre.[1]
 
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