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tart said:
What? The KFC is Wenger, mate.
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I know who you meant but he was answering a question put to him by the host on the video clip that I saw regarding the matter. The timing of his comments were most likely due to the show's production team, what Wenger did was answer their question with his opinion at the time they asked him.

If that's his opinion he could give it then or refuse to answer the question, which would be odd.
 
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McCOYS said:
I know who you meant but he was answering a question put to him by the host on the video clip that I saw regarding the matter. The timing of his comments were most likely due to the show's production team, what Werner did was answer their question with his opinion at the time they asked him.

If that's his opinion he could give it then or refuse to answer the question, which would be odd.
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Ohhhh okay. I thought you were referring to the FAB
 
harry7 said:
Well, spurs have spent vast amounts of money on players, but we continuously buy the wrong players.

Like it or not, Levy is a lifelong Spurs fan and loves the club and is desperate to win. BUT, as has been pointed out by ex staff, he gets too involved and thinks he knows more than the coaches and staff (paraphrasing Tim Sherwood here). His ego wants to be making all of the footballing decisions.

Anyone who is watching The Studio with Seth Rogan will see a lot of parallels with Levy and Seth's character. He means well and has good intentions, but fucks everything up!
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I don't think he's a lifelong Spurs fan. If he was a real fan he would have done what's best and left long ago. He has even admitted that Spurs is an investment and he had no interest in furthering us as a football club but as a business. He is no more a life long fan than Ange is a coach.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Slightly different for domestic players and players from other countries
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Dier had been brought up in POrtugal with Sporting.

Van de Ven played a couple of days after signing - he was brought up in Netherlands before a year in Germany

Time to give you head a wobble - pretty much every manager at every club Ndomble has been at has said he's a lazy player, only exerts himself when his contract is in jeopardy, then he's forced to run on pitch. Otherwise he'll be running to McDonalds. NO professional manager since he left Spurs has been able to get much of a tune out of him, hence no long term contracts - as nobody trusts him to turn up to play consistently, maybe only to prestige matches every few months

Lo Celso likes the slower tempo of Spanish football more than the faster game of PL - but most of loved playing in the reflected glory of Messi with Argentina which made him look good. And likes the comfort of sickbay especially before international breaks. That's why there were few bidders even at a knock down price when he was sold for £4m and a 'first refusal' on a Betis player - if he had been anything like the player you imagined it would be 40m or more we got back.

So 2019 - spent circa £150m. Had to pay Ndomble's wages for last year up before he moved as no bidders. Lo Celso got back £4m and a promise. Sessegnon perpetially injured so released at end of contract - not really fair to blame player. So pretty much a write off of £150m and probably £30m pa wages for 4 years so real cosin range of t £200m - £400m

Has to go down as one of worst transfer windows of any club anywhere to pick up that bunch of players. I have no idea why anyone now defends them
 
Spursidol said:
Dier had been brought up in POrtugal with Sporting.

Van de Ven played a couple of days after signing - he was brought up in Netherlands before a year in Germany

Time to give you head a wobble - pretty much every manager at every club Ndomble has been at has said he's a lazy player, only exerts himself when his contract is in jeopardy, then he's forced to run on pitch. Otherwise he'll be running to McDonalds. NO professional manager since he left Spurs has been able to get much of a tune out of him, hence no long term contracts - as nobody trusts him to turn up to play consistently, maybe only to prestige matches every few months

Lo Celso likes the slower tempo of Spanish football more than the faster game of PL - but most of loved playing in the reflected glory of Messi with Argentina which made him look good. And likes the comfort of sickbay especially before international breaks. That's why there were few bidders even at a knock down price when he was sold for £4m and a 'first refusal' on a Betis player - if he had been anything like the player you imagined it would be 40m or more we got back.

So 2019 - spent circa £150m. Had to pay Ndomble's wages for last year up before he moved as no bidders. Lo Celso got back £4m and a promise. Sessegnon perpetially injured so released at end of contract - not really fair to blame player. So pretty much a write off of £150m and probably £30m pa wages for 4 years so real cosin range of t £200m - £400m

Has to go down as one of worst transfer windows of any club anywhere to pick up that bunch of players. I have no idea why anyone now defends them
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Fair enough,

It’s not about defending either for me. More that we signed them for Poch then sacked him before he really had a chance to get what he wanted from them.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Fair enough,

It’s not about defending either for me. More that we signed them for Poch then sacked him before he really had a chance to get what he wanted from them.
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True but I think most players know they need to be prepared to play for multiple types of manager with different systems - the average tenure of a PL manager might be 2 years, whereas most player contracts are for 5 years.

The key thing is PL is faster and harder than most other european leagues (and generally higher paid other than a few clubs such as Real, Barcelona, PSG et al) which players should know and be prepared for which I think Ndomble wanted high pay but not the hard work from day one.

Of course its not one sided, Spurs need to do their due diligence on players and manager telling them it'll be hard work - but its not fool proof, I recall Chelsea recruiting Winston Bogarde 30 years ago who only made a handful of appearances over 3 years as the original 'nightmare signing' and reputedly lived in a caravan having confused Chelsea and Wham !

Incidentally Bogarde released a statement which included at the end 'This world is about money, so when you are offered those millions you take them. Few people will ever earn so many. I am one of the few fortunates who do. I may be one of the worst buys in the history of the Premiership, but I don't care.

This might sum up a few players attitudes ?
 
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Despite my best planning for today chances are I won’t finish work till near 9pm.

Unbelievable.

Best laid plans and all that. A reminder that bad luck / chance has more to do with what happens in life than anything else.

My positive outlook tells me it’s got to be a a sign of a resounding Tottenham victory that I will listen to on my way home.
 
Spursidol said:
True but I think most players know they need to be prepared to play for multiple types of manager with different systems - the average tenure of a PL manager might be 2 years, whereas most player contracts are for 5 years.

The key thing is PL is faster and harder than most other european leagues (and generally higher paid other than a few clubs such as Real, Barcelona, PSG et al) which players should know and be prepared for which I think Ndomble wanted high pay but not the hard work from day one.

Of course its not one sided, Spurs need to do their due diligence on players and manager telling them it'll be hard work - but its not fool proof, I recall Chelsea recruiting Winston Bogarde 30 years ago who only made a handful of appearances over 3 years as the original 'nightmare signing' and reputedly lived in a caravan having confused Chelsea and Wham !

Incidentally Bogarde released a statement which included at the end 'This world is about money, so when you are offered those millions you take them. Few people will ever earn so many. I am one of the few fortunates who do. I may be one of the worst buys in the history of the Premiership, but I don't care.

This might sum up a few players attitudes ?
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I agree with most of what you say. HOWEVER you have confused your Marco Boogers with your Winston Bogardes. Winston Bogarde NEVER lived in a caravan he liked a nice five star suite .
 
WillWilliams said:
I’ve booked myself a ridiculously busy morning and early afternoon tomorrow and really need an earlyish night.

So as we head into our Tottenham Hotspur Thursday everybody needs to put on their lucky boxer shorts, briefs, swimming trunks, pants, French knickers, posing pouches, g strings or mankinins and be as positive as you fucking can.

This is the time! Seize the day!!!! The big day is almost upon us

THIS THURSDAY WEAR YOUR LUCKY UNDERWEAR WITH PRIDE!!!

COYS.

(No photos please Goatie)
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I put mine on the morning of our first game against Quarabag last September ; we won and I vowed to keep them on until we either get knocked out or win the cup. Just like players in the NHL not shaving .

Hopefully it will all be worth it .
 
_mehstg said:
I don't think he's a lifelong Spurs fan. If he was a real fan he would have done what's best and left long ago. He has even admitted that Spurs is an investment and he had no interest in furthering us as a football club but as a business. He is no more a life long fan than Ange is a coach.
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What lifelong fan thinks we should be happy with a league cup every 25 years & would take out so much salary out of the club in return for doing a crap job. What lifelong fan is content with finishing 20+ points behind Woolwich every season & then wants more of the same. Mad how people still think he is a die hard fan.
 
WillWilliams said:
Amazing when you sit down to really think about it with some top grade Lemon Kush from the ‘Dam.

And if we are ignoring the league we can just say since 1882 it’s probably in the top 3 seasons. 150 years and we have just lived it. Incredible.

We are all pretty blessed aren’t we.
Like Harry said when we got top 4. This is as good as it gets.

He knew nothing!!16th motherfucker!!

And people say the drugs don’t work.
You sure proved them wrong buddy.
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Rather win a trophy then finish 6th anyday. You'd prefer to continue to be the laughing stock of the big 5 clubs. Have some independent thought rather than just regurgitating the media headlines.
 
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