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Jores Okore refusing to play for Aston Villa - Eric Black




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Jores Okore signed for Villa in the summer of 2013
Aston Villa defender Jores Okore is refusing to play for the club, according to caretaker boss Eric Black.

The 23-year-old Denmark international refused to be on the bench for the visit of Bournemouth on 9 April and is now training with the club's under-21s.

"After that game, he said that he didn't want to be considered for any of the games going forwards," said Black.

"I didn't have a choice apart from remove him. I don't want people who don't want to be at Aston Villa."

Villa's relegation from the Premier League was confirmed with last weekend's defeat at Manchester United.

On Friday, owner Randy Lerner released a statement accepting blame for the end of the club's 28-year stay in the top flight.

That came at the end of a week in which directors David Bernstein and Mervyn King left the club and striker Gabriel Agbonlahor was suspended for being pictured with what is alleged to be laughing gas.
 
I read this the other day and it's astonishing what's been going on there.

The Gabby Agbonlahor scandal is much bigger than one illicit photograph


Gabriel Agbonlahor scandal is much bigger than one illicit photograph
COMMENT: Agbonlahor is a parable for what Aston Villa have become under Randy Lerner

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Gabriel Agbonlahor has been suspended by Aston Villa Getty Images
Mercifully for the England national team, Roy Hodgson doesn’t pay too much attention to images on social media. He tends to uphold the libertarian view that what players - and he - get up to at 2am is their own business - and his.

It’s why he didn’t lose too much sleep over the story of Raheem Sterling inhaling nitrous oxide last year which, at the time of writing, has generated 292 national newspaper stories. Though Twitter’s window on their world creates that sense of a community of footballers on £50k-a-week minimum taking the game to hell in a handcart, Hodgson actually wouldn’t mind if they let go a little more at times. When the FA threw a little reception to mark England’s Euro 2016 qualification last November, only five of the squad invited accepted a glass of the champagne on offer.

On the face of it, a privately published image of Aston Villa’s Gabby Agbonlahor is equally insignificant. The player’s performance is no more likely to be affected by the singular act of smoking a shisha pipe in Dubai, captured on camera, as Sterling’s was by his brush with laughing gas last year. Living it up and drinking hard? Look up Liverpool and the late 1970s. Jimmy Case and Terry McDermott were locked in the cells after an altercation with one pub landlord in Llangollen, North Wales, in 1979. Their desperation to play football and win games meant that the incident made not the blindest difference, beyond the need for some new furniture in the Bryn Howell Hotel.

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What confound belief about Agbonlahor, is that it has taken an image of the player taking hippy crack, circulated on a fans’ forum, to provoke some action from Aston Villa when the player has been the problem which has haunted the club’s managers for years. As far back as Martin O’Neill’s time as manager, in the last decade, Agbonlahor would arrive back from international breaks a day after everyone else – a practice which was allowed to ride. No-one actually got the sense he wanted to be selected for England all that much anyway, given that an international break was the alternative.

Drift is what happens when such a strong character occupies the dressing room of a club in which manger after manager – five of them in the last five-and-a-half years at Villa - is left to feel so pathologically insecure. Paul Lambert felt deeply uneasy about Agbonlahor’s power, influence and deeply questionable work ethic, but his influence on player around him meant he held sway. So, too, did Gerard Houllier. It was Houllier who told his compatriot Remi Garde to sell him, at a time when the noises coming from the dressing room were that classic form of insurrection. Agbonlahor was finding Garde’s training “too intense,” we were told.

But having failed to get him out, Garde then found himself so short of players that he suffered the indignity of having to go back to Agbonlahor to say: “We’ve not found anyone so will you lead the line for me.” The player haunted Garde until the very end. He had to use him as a substitute in the last game he took charge for at Swansea. “I’ve never seen someone take so long to come on,” were the Frenchman’s parting words.

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In a sense, Agbonlahor is a parable for what Villa have become under Randy Lerner: a spineless club so incapable of creating the conditions for strong management that egos like those of Agbonlahor – the so–called ‘Mr Villa’ – are able to take root.

“It would never have happened at a club I’ve worked at,” says an insider whose worked within the senior first team management units at several Premier League clubs, included a period with Sam Allardyce. Allardyce would not have tolerated Agbonlahor and, though the player is too self-absorbed to compute the fact, the benefits might have been mutual. Allardyce is the reason why the difficult, some say detestable, El Hadji Diouff – another in the Agbonlahor mould - succeeded at Bolton and Blackburn.

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Aston Villa fans pictured at Old Trafford on Saturday (Getty)
Villa are finally clearing up the mess at the time when they cannot afford to do anything less. Supporters see the player’s white Lamborghini and £2.75m salary, hear of the 500 job losses which Villa’s relegation will bring, and conclude what a grotesque place the club they once called theirs has become. The man to whom the task of ushering Agbonlahor out of the door has fallen, Eric Black, is becoming a specialist in these kind of clean-up operations: a caretaker manager in careworn places. It was Black who mopped up at Blackburn Rovers after the club’s Indian owners had kicked out Allardyce and watched Steve Kean drag that club down, too. “Dignity.” “No side to him,” people tell me.

The Professional Footballers’ Association will attempt to arbitrate between club and player, too, with the sentiments from the union when we spoke yesterday including some despair that a photograph, initially published on a private forum, has landed the sport with more negative publicity. But Agbonlahor is the story of what happens to a club when those at its helm stop caring. It’s about infinitely more than a photograph.
 
I have to say, I'm quite surprised by the Okore thing. He's always been a consumate professional throughout his youth and later senior career. He's the one player I didn't expect this from.

I know his agent is furious at Villa for not answering questions regarding the clubs future, and even ignoring calls from player representatives about the larger direction the club is heading.

Either way, refusing to be named on the bench is a disgrace.
 
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Aston Villa defender Jores Okore is refusing to play for the club, according to caretaker boss Eric Black.

The 23-year-old Denmark international refused to be on the bench for the visit of Bournemouth on 9 April and is now training with the club's under-21s.

"After that game, he said that he didn't want to be considered for any of the games going forwards," said Black.

I get that he doesn't want to play for that shit show, but it's a scumbag move to just give up on your teammates, fans, and club with so few games left.
 
Way things are going we could have Forrest, Leeds, Newcastle, Villa maybe even Everton next season if they continue to fall apart outside the top league. A giant mass of huge clubs fallen by the way side.

Personally can't imagine being a Villa fan having to deal with such awful ownership. They are a professional club but with management at an amateur level. Sad thing is unlike Newcastle, Sunderland or Norwich they put up no fight against relegation, they just accepted it. If Poch was there I think the whole squad would be sold, but then again who would buy?
 
Just. WOW!
so that's what Social media was invented for!!

I was gonna post that I actually do feel for Villa fans... I grew up in the '70s/'80s and for me, they were a MASSIVE club... my first Spurs game was against them (we lost) so I have always associated them with the Top flight.
There are certain clubs that go down, that you know you won't miss, or take much notice of while they're down there... but Vill aren't one of them.

Maybe I'm showing my age, but I put Villa in a similar category to clubs like Leeds, Derby, Wolves, Bolton and Nottingham Forest (to a lesser extent)... Proud, Historical (founder members of the league let's remember, but then again, so were Accrington Stanley!)
They are sadly clubs who have, for one reason or another have been mis-managed almost to the point of no return.
THAT is never the fans' fault. They/we just have to watch on in horror, and simply stand there and take it.

...and, lest we forget, there was a time in the early-mid '90s when this could have so easily been us!
Yes Alan Sugar and Robert Maxwell... I'm looking at you!

I don't 'hate' Villa at all, in the same way I don't have any particualr grudge against their fans...
I genuinely wish Villa a speedy return, and a year or two in a lower division might well be the making of them.
 
Aston Virra have just been bought by a Chinese big wig.. He wants to make them the biggest club in CHina and bring European football back.. Good luck old chap.

If they get the right manager in, and as significantly, has patience with him, they've got a shot. But fuck me, whoever they bring in has got a huge clean-up job on his hands.

Their squad just wasn't good enough this season, but it was nowhere near as bad as their point tally reflects. There must be some highly, highly toxic influences in that dressing room to make a talented team collaps so spectacularly!
 
If they get the right manager in, and as significantly, has patience with him, they've got a shot. But fuck me, whoever they bring in has got a huge clean-up job on his hands.

Their squad just wasn't good enough this season, but it was nowhere near as bad as their point tally reflects. There must be some highly, highly toxic influences in that dressing room to make a talented team collaps so spectacularly!

Di Matteo is odds on favourite..Not sure that he is the right choice.
 
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