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Transfers Summer 2017 transfer window or, waiting for Godot

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Fidel Castro said:
Your deranged or delusional to think that transfers don't improve us or others Many shouted for prudent pragmatism last summer . The Kenyan bloke was a great addition to the first 11 and Jansen poor but always it's a gamble .
We need one player like an Isco to get us over the line . Rather spend 60 million on ONE game changer ( yes we have the money ) than a scatter gun approach on a hope and waits . as we are so nearly there .
We can't live in fairy land for ever , the wardrobe will close and winter has to have a christmas .
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No one has said transfers can't improve us.

Your Wanyama example is a prime example of the point being made and how flawed the view is that we must spend huge amounts to challenge.

Our best signings haven't been the expensive ones, they've been the right ones, or academy products.

Wanyama 12M

Soldado, Sissoko, Lamela 90M combined

It took Lamela two years to settle. Are you telling me that if we sign a player for 50M and he doesn't hit the ground running all the people who demanded he was signed will stick by him for a couple years?

These are the people who want instant success. His head will be on the block, and they will want someone else by Christmas.
 
Fidel Castro said:
Your deranged or delusional to think that transfers don't improve us or others Many shouted for prudent pragmatism last summer . The Kenyan bloke was a great addition to the first 11 and Jansen poor but always it's a gamble .
We need one player like an Isco to get us over the line . Rather spend 60 million on ONE game changer ( yes we have the money ) than a scatter gun approach on a hope and waits . as we are so nearly there .
We can't live in fairy land for ever , the wardrobe will close and winter has to have a christmas .
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Talking of fairy land... how can we afford to drop £60m on one player. You're forgetting it's not just the transfer fee but also the salary, which of it was £150kpw works out at £39m over 5 years. Which in turn affects our wage structure. I'd rather money pumped into paying our existing players more.
 
Colonel_K said:
Talking of fairy land... how can we afford to drop £60m on one player. You're forgetting it's not just the transfer fee but also the salary, which of it was £150kpw works out at £39m over 5 years. Which in turn affects our wage structure. I'd rather money pumped into paying our existing players more.
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But they also want to double Eriksen, Kane and Deles etc wages.

That's the thing I said the other day, clueless people making ridiculous demands and stating as fact things only Levy can possibly know about our finances.

Instead of seeing a well run club with a commendable wage cap, they just see it as a tight chairman.

The thought that some people would actually prefer us to be like Chelsea chills me to the bones.
But as has been pointed out by a few astute posters, they will be the first to laud our achievements over the likes of Chelsea when our policy wins us something. Weird.
 
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If I recall correctly poch has indicated recently that we could use additions when briefed on comments made by Dele Alli. I would be suprised if we do not buy atleast 1 player but then again it is a season with 800 mill to spend on a stadium.
 
Colonel_K said:
Talking of fairy land... how can we afford to drop £60m on one player. You're forgetting it's not just the transfer fee but also the salary, which of it was £150kpw works out at £39m over 5 years. Which in turn affects our wage structure. I'd rather money pumped into paying our existing players more.
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Maybe we should change our wage structure then to reflect our financial and champions league status. We would then be a more attractive option for the best players to consider. It's used as an excuse all the time if we're honest. I mean, Jermain Defoe at Bournmouth earns more than Harry Kane at Spurs. Think about it
 
The majority of our team are on more money than mostly all of those at Atletico Madrid and even Dortmund.

Has it stopped them from competing? Atletico seem to reach the semi final of the Champions League every season as well as cementing themselves as a top 3 side and La Liga winner in the last few years.

Hard work and togetherness is alot more important than money and if you belong to a team that thrives on that with a manager you'd die for, you'll get rewards.

We will get there, regardless of finances.
 
It's funny how many people seem to forget that some of the best players in the Premier League cost very little and were well nurtured by their clubs. Scholes, Giggs, Bale came to us very young for a small fee, Harry Kane, Gerrard, John Terry. The list goes on. Yet everyone is desperate for that next big Spanish superstar.

Also, 60m on Isco seems dumb as shit when you consider we already have Eriksen and Dele. Bit like us spunking 75 on Lukaku.
 
John Thomas said:
Maybe we should change our wage structure then to reflect our financial and champions league status. We would then be a more attractive option for the best players to consider. It's used as an excuse all the time if we're honest. I mean, Jermain Defoe at Bournmouth earns more than Harry Kane at Spurs. Think about it
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And when Bournemouth get relegated at some point and they become just another Reading or Wigan, who will give a shit that they paid JD beyond their means. Who cares what Bournemouth are doing?

Why are you suggesting we change our wage structure when you have ZERO idea about how the clubs money is being used.

Don't you see how ridiculous it sounds.

John, why don't you go and buy the new Porsche GT3? Go on.....rearrange some of your spending and get yourself a new super car!
What do you mean I have no idea about your financial situation? Just buy the car, I'm certain you have the money.

Stupid isn't it
 
scott said:
You would change your stance depending on what poch does so there's no point arguing.

& you know the reality is you need to spend big to win the title regularly.
So either you want it that way or not at all in reality.
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If you want to talk "reality":

Reality: We absolutely can not compete in spending big.
Reality: If spending big is what is needed to win the title, we do not stand a chance.

Reality: Despite not spending big, we keep moving closer to the title.
Reality: Over the last two seasons combined, we've been by far the best team in the league.

If you want to give up, based on your hypothesis that spending big is a requirement for winning the title, feel free to do so.

I, on the other hand, prefer to stay positive with regards to our progress and chance to succeed following the formula that has worked so well for us over the last few seasons. If we can establish ourselves as the Dortmund/Atletico Madrid of the PL I'd be very happy about that, and I think our chances of seeing silverware from such a position would be excellent.
 
sammyspurs said:
But they also want to double Eriksen, Kane and Deles etc wages.

That's the thing I said the other day, clueless people making ridiculous demands and stating as fact things only Levy can possibly know about our finances.

Instead of seeing a well run club with a commendable wage cap, they just see it as a tight chairman.

The thought that some people would actually prefer us to be like Chelsea chills me to the bones.
But as has been pointed out by a few astute posters, they will be the first to laud our achievements over the likes of Chelsea when our policy wins us something. Weird.
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Again putting words into peoples mouths to suit your agenda that people who want the squad improved want us to spend ridiculous money and bankrupt the club. Making 2 summer signings doesn't turn us into a Chelsea.
 
sammyspurs said:
But they also want to double Eriksen, Kane and Deles etc wages.

That's the thing I said the other day, clueless people making ridiculous demands and stating as fact things only Levy can possibly know about our finances.

Instead of seeing a well run club with a commendable wage cap, they just see it as a tight chairman.

The thought that some people would actually prefer us to be like Chelsea chills me to the bones.
But as has been pointed out by a few astute posters, they will be the first to laud our achievements over the likes of Chelsea when our policy wins us something. Weird.
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A lot of well respected people in the game are suggesting our outmoded pay structure needs to be changed to allow us to push on. Souness just the other day was saying we can't keep on expecting to compete on the cheap. Again, with respect mate, I trust the considered thoughts of well respected ex pro's than the words of a ranting maniac like you.
 
John Thomas said:
A lot of well respected people in the game are suggesting our outmoded pay structure needs to be changed to allow us to push on. Souness just the other day was saying we can't keep on expecting to compete on the cheap. Again, with respect mate, I trust the considered thoughts of well respected ex pro's than the words of a ranting maniac like you.
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Yet you called me naive when I took Poch's words over yours.

Which is it? You trust the experts or not? Appears you trust whichever "expert" suits your agenda.
 
John Thomas said:
A lot of well respected people in the game are suggesting our outmoded pay structure needs to be changed to allow us to push on. Souness just the other day was saying we can't keep on expecting to compete on the cheap. Again, with respect mate, I trust the considered thoughts of well respected ex pro's than the words of a ranting maniac like you.
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You don't need to be an "ex pro" to know that like any market salaries will rise to the point we will have to recalibrate our system. Doing it for one player due to hard negotiation is not the way but rather a gradual increase for key players
 
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