Ha, Chelsea, Man City, Woolwich and Man United ALL avoid each other!
Rigged as fuck.
Rigged as fuck.
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West Ham - League cup game
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Bored of this shite now, move on!
Like Ramos? That didn’t go so well if I remember correctly. You are talking nonsense - just
platitudinal rubbish.
Here’s hoping that clogger Noble kicks some Gooners in the next round!
That’s why they had to do over and over again.
I'm annoyed that we lost in that fashion but couldn't give 2 shits about the late karaoke cup itself.
Sorry Joe, but I can't agree. Last night's team was more than good enough. We have enough rotation players to win it, especially with Rose, Dembele and Lamela now returning and the additions of Aurier and Llorente.
If we had fielded 11 18 year olds then it would not have been a reflection of the squad's potential.
Look, you know I am no melt or negative nancy. I truly believe the argument that competing in this competition harms our CL and PL chances is false.
Poch’s record in the cups for Southampton and us proves otherwise. He just doesn’t take them seriously.
In other words you want an echo chamber where every fan has exactly your take on it and anyone who differs should shut the fuck up? Got it.
Shame. I would have preferred it if we could have addressed the questions I posed.
Haha, astonishing.
Our rotated side losing in our 2nd least important game so far defines us more than our 1st team battering Liverpool in the League and drawing away to Real Madrid in the CL.
Not only that, other sides are now going to be inspired by our loss? As if Prem teams go 2-0 down and generally abandon ship. Even then, we play better when teams come at us, so that plays into our hands.
You have absolutely had yourself with contradictions in this thread, showcasing a distinct lack of understanding of Spurs, Pochettino and football in general and it's been a shambles to see.
Results against Liverpool and Real Madrid in the 2 premier competitions we compete in are drowned out by a loss in our lowest priority. Amazing.
You don’t have to agree - no problem with that, but whilst last night’s team looked reasonably strong on paper ultimately it wasn’t strong enough to win on the pitch. Poch tries to wing these games. He always will.
Yes, but it doesn't means he cares nothing if we drop out and doesn't want to win them. All it proves is that he knows which competitions are priorities for progression.
My argument is clear and consistent. We have the squad to try in all competitions. Repeating endlessly that "Poch doesn't prioritise the cups" doesn't make a case that we just throw the towel in and can't compete in them without it harming our PL chances. We have depth and rotation that is good enough to give this and the FA Cup a decent crack. Last night's team was good enough and better than West Ham. None of this excuse making changes the fact that we should have been in the quarter finals, and this fan arrogance that the cups don't matter is the same arrogance that caused the players to stroll around without a care in the world during the second half.
We are not too good for any trophy.
I don’t think we have so we’ll have to disagree on that. And no one is saying the cups don’t matter, just that they matter a hell of a lot less than they did 20 years ago. Going for the league and CL is a better use of our resources imo.
Lloris, Vertonghen, Sanchez, Alderweireld, Dembele, Wanyama, Winks, Eriksen, Son, Alli, Kane.
Vorm, Davies, Aurier, Rose, Walker-Peters, Dier, Sissoko, Winks, Lamela, Edwards, Llorente.
That's two elevens there, which can be mixed and matched.
People are saying we don't have enough to field a lesser team in the cups without it impacting our CL and PL run. We have enough to rotate our entire starting 11!!!
Vorm, Davies, Aurier, Rose, Walker-Peters, Dier, Sissoko, Winks, Lamela, Edwards, Llorente.
That's two elevens there, which can be mixed and matched.
People are saying we don't have enough to field a lesser team in the cups without it impacting our CL and PL run. We have enough to rotate our entire starting 11!!!
We did rotate last night...and lost?
There was nothing wrong with the team we played last night, what was wrong was the way they played in the second half. I would argue that the two games coming up are bigger, as we aren't going to win either the CL or Prem, but we may have been able to win the league cup.
We lost...with a team good enough to win. That's why some of us are complaining and resisting the "it doesn't matter" narrative. Last night's side was much better than the team of job centre claimants. We should have won and if we had we would have had a total of three extra matches at most, which a rotated squad is, on paper, capable of winning.
We don't need to be out of this competition because we shoudn't have to rely on the first team for it. Our squad is good enough. That is the point.
So if there was nothing wrong with the team what’s your problem? (Apart from losing that is).
If there was nothing wrong with the team Poch fielded, why these accusations of not taking it seriously? I’m not suggesting that you have said that btw.
And yet this post is premised on the basis that if we won the league cup and lost the league we would have lost the latter because of the former. There's no logic in that.
Performance last night was pedestrian. I literally dozed off after 1-0. We took west ham too lightly, and there was little to no intensity last night.
Regardless of the competition, which I'm not particularly arsed about and also believe in the long run won't do us any harm being in, it was still a game against West ham. We should always be up for it, and we only seemed to look interested once we were pegged back. By then, the momentum of the game had already shifted.
I hope it gives the players a kick up the arse for Sunday.
Regardless of the competition, which I'm not particularly arsed about and also believe in the long run won't do us any harm being in, it was still a game against West ham. We should always be up for it, and we only seemed to look interested once we were pegged back. By then, the momentum of the game had already shifted.
I hope it gives the players a kick up the arse for Sunday.