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The race for second place.

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Yes and those around us strengthened far more than we did so we need some added impetus this window, I saw your reply in the other thread and totally disagree.

Who? United, great move on their part but the rest? Chelsea have signed a player who hasn’t played this season and is coming back from a serious injury ( and hasn’t lived up to his potential). Liverpool have signed Van Dyk but sold their best player in the process whilst Woolwich have just sold their best and brought in a player who was a complete flop at United. We don’t need a statement in the market, we need far more from what we have already. When we have this level of talent available but are supposedly dependent on new signings for performances then serious questions need to be raised about our manager.
 
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Who? United, great move on their part but the rest? Chelsea have signed a player who hasn’t played this season and is coming back from a serious injury ( and hasn’t lived up to his potential). Liverpool have signed Van Dyk but sold their best player in the process whilst Woolwich have just sold their best and brought in a player who was a complete flop at United. We don’t need a statement in the market, we need far more from what we have already. When we have this level of talent available but are supposedly dependent on new signings for performances then serious questions need to be raised about our manager.
That’s impressive. All those words and not 1 I agree with.

Yes they sold Coutinho. Statistically better off (win %) when he didn’t play. Oh and Salah is their best player. Signed in the summer. Have strengthened a weakness in defence too.

Utd bought a striker and Matic, who if you watched allows Pogba to play more freely. He’s got quite a few assists this season. Now they have Sanchez.

Chelsea are trying to rectify scoring potency with another striker, looks like Dzeko.

Yes Woolwich are losing their best player but if they get Auba and Mhki our if it then they’ve come out ahead. Don’t judge Mhki on his Utd performances, he was under a manager that made Salah and De Bruyne look average. He’ll thrive at the goons.

Meanwhile we signed a back up striker not suited to how we play. Replaced Walker. Strengthened the defence with Sanchez. Yet didn’t add attacking depth. If we don’t by February 1 then we’re making the job of top 4 harder. Lucas is available, has spoken about his Paris career being over and needing to move, well so do we. It’s time to move in and buy him.
 
That’s impressive. All those words and not 1 I agree with.

Yes they sold Coutinho. Statistically better off (win %) when he didn’t play. Oh and Salah is their best player. Signed in the summer. Have strengthened a weakness in defence too.

Utd bought a striker and Matic, who if you watched allows Pogba to play more freely. He’s got quite a few assists this season. Now they have Sanchez.

Chelsea are trying to rectify scoring potency with another striker, looks like Dzeko.

Yes Woolwich are losing their best player but if they get Auba and Mhki our if it then they’ve come out ahead. Don’t judge Mhki on his Utd performances, he was under a manager that made Salah and De Bruyne look average. He’ll thrive at the goons.

Meanwhile we signed a back up striker not suited to how we play. Replaced Walker. Strengthened the defence with Sanchez. Yet didn’t add attacking depth. If we don’t by February 1 then we’re making the job of top 4 harder. Lucas is available, has spoken about his Paris career being over and needing to move, well so do we. It’s time to move in and buy him.

Assuming we did pull the trigger on Moura, who are you taking out of your starting xi?
 
Assuming we did pull the trigger on Moura, who are you taking out of your starting xi?
We could do numerous things with extra options.

We could bench Dele when he's playing like shit (today).
We could NOT have to play Sissoko
We could deploy Eriksen in CM as a deep lying playmaker
We could bring a fresh Sonny off the bench.

It's the options it opens up that I like, especially when the fixture congestion piles up.

Hugo
Sanchez Toby Verts
Aurier Wanyama Eriksen Davies
Lucas Son
Kane
Bench: Dele, Lamela, Dier, Winks, Vorm, KWP, Llorente

Hugo
Aurier Toby Jan Davies
Dier Dembele
Lamela Dele Eriksen
Kane
Bench: Vorm, Llorente, Trippier, Sanchez, Lucas, Son, Sissoko.

Can play with heavy rotation whilst still fielding strong benches with good mix of defensive and offensive options.


 
That’s impressive. All those words and not 1 I agree with.

Yes they sold Coutinho. Statistically better off (win %) when he didn’t play. Oh and Salah is their best player. Signed in the summer. Have strengthened a weakness in defence too.

Utd bought a striker and Matic, who if you watched allows Pogba to play more freely. He’s got quite a few assists this season. Now they have Sanchez.

Chelsea are trying to rectify scoring potency with another striker, looks like Dzeko.

Yes Woolwich are losing their best player but if they get Auba and Mhki our if it then they’ve come out ahead. Don’t judge Mhki on his Utd performances, he was under a manager that made Salah and De Bruyne look average. He’ll thrive at the goons.

Meanwhile we signed a back up striker not suited to how we play. Replaced Walker. Strengthened the defence with Sanchez. Yet didn’t add attacking depth. If we don’t by February 1 then we’re making the job of top 4 harder. Lucas is available, has spoken about his Paris career being over and needing to move, well so do we. It’s time to move in and buy him.

I agree about the bit where miki has potential, but the old git mr Wenger is hardly the one to get him back to his best is he? United are fed stronger with Sanchez tho, but apparently now Pogba wants the same kind of wages, so hopefully this could upset the dressing room a bit, doubtful tho as they can probably afford to pay pogba the same.... let’s hope Rashford wants out as I still believe under poch he could be awesome!
 
We never or very rarely gamble. To spend 40 to 60 million on a ready made improvement to the first 11 to give us a far better chance of the champs league purse strings is never on the agenda of our geriatric barnet free EL Supremo.
The risk doesn't add up for our lovable hard headed business bandito . Champs league run worth maybe 20 to 40million that's not how you come a multi billionaire with a 20 million loss and your still not guaranteed it.
Just hope to muddle through again , sell anyone who kicks up if want to leave to win things/better money and bring average to good prospects with a sell on value.
Continual frustration.
Rinse and repeat.
 
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Of course, but threads like this, plus those that only visit here after dropped points, plus the OTT level of melting fail to see that we are the form team in the league right now, including todays game. That's the only reason for posting this.
I can appreciate the reasons and agree although allowing some who melt to see a form table which we are top, will only anger and confuse them more. They need to be shown its , one game at a tine. Yes, Southampton could have been better. Lets put it right against Utd, thats football.
 
We could do numerous things with extra options.

We could bench Dele when he's playing like shit (today).
We could NOT have to play Sissoko
We could deploy Eriksen in CM as a deep lying playmaker
We could bring a fresh Sonny off the bench.

It's the options it opens up that I like, especially when the fixture congestion piles up.

Hugo
Sanchez Toby Verts
Aurier Wanyama Eriksen Davies
Lucas Son
Kane
Bench: Dele, Lamela, Dier, Winks, Vorm, KWP, Llorente

Hugo
Aurier Toby Jan Davies
Dier Dembele
Lamela Dele Eriksen
Kane
Bench: Vorm, Llorente, Trippier, Sanchez, Lucas, Son, Sissoko.

Can play with heavy rotation whilst still fielding strong benches with good mix of defensive and offensive options.



Poch always just seems so reluctant to pull Dele, even when playing shitty, and apparently has some infatuation with Sissoko.

Not saying I think picking him up would be a bad move by any means, but its hard for me to picture Levy dropping that kind of money ( in Jan ) for what essentially would be someone we pull of the bench. (at least at first)

One way or another, we def need to add some depth.
 
You can’t keep people against their will. This is a free country.
You can. If a player signs a contract tying him to a club for a certain length of time that club has a legal right to prevent that player signing for another club for the contracts duration. Unless the holding club agrees, with any agreement usually recompensed by compensation from the new club. i.e a transfer fee.
But yes, its a free country. Meaning the player has the right to refuse the contract in the first place.
 
You can. If a player signs a contract tying him to a club for a certain length of time that club has a legal right to prevent that player signing for another club for the contracts duration. Unless the holding club agrees, with any agreement usually recompensed by compensation from the new club. i.e a transfer fee.
But yes, its a free country. Meaning the player has the right to refuse the contract in the first place.
Yes, I understand that, but we know what happens - the player downs tools and ends up rotting in the stiffs, all the while running down his contract. I’m not suggesting all players would act this unprofessionally, just that it’s very difficult to keep a player once he’s made his mind up on leaving. It happens to all clubs.
 
Yes they sold Coutinho. Statistically better off (win %) when he didn’t play. Oh and Salah is their best player. Signed in the summer. Have strengthened a weakness in defence too..

If their win ratio was superior without him then why did they play him? Why have Barcelona just paid the 3rd highest fee in history for the player? And no Salah wasn’t their best player he has performed to that level for 6 months, Coutiniho has done that for years. Again they have addressed one weakness ( but still need 2 goalkeepers, 2 fullbacks and another centre back) but have also lost their best player and haven’t replaced him. Had we done this you would be screaming murder.

Utd bought a striker and Matic, who if you watched allows Pogba to play more freely. He’s got quite a few assists this season. Now they have Sanchez..

They bought Matic in the summer right ok. They addresssed a weakness but ask any United supporter and they will readily tell you that this is a team and squad full of holes.

Chelsea are trying to rectify scoring potency with another striker, looks like Dzeko.

Aliastair Campbell would be proud with that level of spin, you completely ingnore the fact that they have been strongly linked with Andy Carrol, Peter Crouch, Silimani to name a few. The reality is that they haven’t signed any striker so using speculation to criticise us is a somewhat foolhardy tact to take.


Yes Woolwich are losing their best player but if they get Auba and Mhki our if it then they’ve come out ahead. Don’t judge Mhki on his Utd performances, he was under a manager that made Salah and De Bruyne look average. He’ll thrive at the goons.him.

If.....if......if....the reality is that they have lost their best player and have brought in a United cast off. Those are the facts. Their squad is in a terrible state probably the worse I have seen since I have followed the game. Their supporters would mostly attest to that as well. As for Mourhino well if what you say is correct then we have nothing to worry about Sanchez going there.

Meanwhile we signed a back up striker not suited to how we play. Replaced Walker. Strengthened the defence with Sanchez. Yet didn’t add attacking depth. If we don’t by February 1 then we’re making the job of top 4 harder. Lucas is available, has spoken about his Paris career being over and needing to move, well so do we. It’s time to move in and buy him.

We signed a back up striker that scored 15 league goals last season and if you think he cannot play our system then you haven’t watched throughout his career. We didn’t add to the forwards because we had Lamela returning from injury and even now I think a AM is well done the list of priorities. Again this isn’t a talent issue here, the ability is there, the issue is our failure to maximise that ability. We falling short of the standards we have set for ourselves in recent seasons.
 
The reality is this:
We're so close to being consistent top for and a hairs breadth away from winning that we should strengthen. Fact.
Give us more options for those participating the bus teams and to perform better against the others around us. It's not about replacing anyone: is about options, rotation and improving the all round strength of the squad.
If you have better options you can adjust formation and tactics to be better suited for any opponent.
And let's be honest if Sissoko is a replacement for Eriksen then the squad needs strengthening.

Ps how awful was trippier yesterday.... Gets ball, stupid, pass inside, raises hand... No attacking intent at all.
 
You can’t keep people against their will. This is a free country.
My point is never making the conditions right that a player wants to stay long term as we are not competitive on wages, signing the occasional game changer, being able to win silverware , gaps in squad , selling to rivals etc.
The intent is never really there and l don't think the stadium will make a lot of difference.
Yes this is a free country pity our owner doesn't live here .
 
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