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Manager Mauricio Pochettino

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Poch is going nowhere

Win the game of football yesterday the media would be saying they should build a statue of him outside for his ongoing achievement competing in top 6 with a small budget. Lose and now it’s disaster!!

Getting really tired of the whole thing now to be honest, why can’t we enjoy it as a sport anymore instead of just a constant source of stress?

You can enjoy it, just don't read any shit in here, twitter or facebook...well the fucking internet in general...and avoid TV while you're at it...just heard that cunt chappers announce on Motd2 extra that we aren't overachieving with our wage bill...because it's our fucking choice to be sixth on the wages table!?!?!?!?! Oh yeah lets just get a billion pound overdraft, we'll be fucking flying then...
 
I think captaincy matters and it will be interesting if Pochetino stays (as he really must) whether he has the courage to sanction a sale of Lloris?

Such steps can demonstrate an understanding of what is needed.
 
Can he change his approach ? what did he do when we bottled it 2 seasons ago when we came third in a two horse race ?,

To say we 'bottled' anything is what rival fans like to throw about to make themselves feel better about their team. Why would any Spurs fan use the term?!

It's the same as Spurs fans referencing the 'kop' end of our new stadium.
 
Considering what’s written in that famous book, I can’t help but feel the statements yesterday were sadness and frustration.

At worst it’s a case of Poch saying - please give me what we need to get over the line.

Yesterday was that Teams last hurrah. A tad of rebuilding now required and Poch must know that the prospect of Winks and Onomah is very real if Dangerous Dan gets complacent. Rather than dick about for Andre Gomes, this summer we need to buy Gomes ( or similar ) early!

But I say this every fucking year with Levy and ENIC and why should they change ? FA Cup is worth less to everyone than finishing 4th. As much Romance tells me the FA Cup is worth something it’s not worth the difference economically as 5 v 6 place.

The powers that be do not want to win trophies. They want league and TV money - hence why we are set up to do only so well, it can’t really be anything else. I wonder if the Bonus structure for cups is so poor v the league bonus as if it really mattered yesterday surely they would not have been so shite after it went 1-1
 
The powers that be do not want to win trophies. They want league and TV money

I dont get how winning the FA Cup stops us finishing top 4. I dont get that theory.

I wonder if the Bonus structure for cups is so poor v the league bonus as if it really mattered yesterday surely they would not have been so shite after it went 1-1

If thats the case, Id happily get rid of every single one of them

Yesterday was that Teams last hurrah
I hope so....Moura needs to be a key figure in this side next season.
Not even worth speculating on teams for next season yet though, I can see three or four first teamers leaving to be honest.
Toby's gone and Dier, Eriksen and Dele worry me
 
I dont get how winning the FA Cup stops us finishing top 4. I dont get that theory.



If thats the case, Id happily get rid of every single one of them


I hope so....Moura needs to be a key figure in this side next season.
Not even worth speculating on teams for next season yet though, I can see three or four first teamers leaving to be honest.
Toby's gone and Dier, Eriksen and Dele worry me

The powers that be do not want to win trophies. They want league and TV money - should have read “The powers that be do not seem to want to win trophies. They seem to only want league and TV money”
 
I dont get how winning the FA Cup stops us finishing top 4. I dont get that theory.



If thats the case, Id happily get rid of every single one of them


I hope so....Moura needs to be a key figure in this side next season.
Not even worth speculating on teams for next season yet though, I can see three or four first teamers leaving to be honest.
Toby's gone and Dier, Eriksen and Dele worry me

I think much depends on the conversations and then early actions that Pochettino has with Levy.

The model needs a slight tweak at the important points of wages, personnel and approach on the field at key times.

Tweaks.
 
That is never going to happen but what he has had was 2 seasons where the elite were in disarray and where we had arguably the best side in the league. What he also has was one of the wealthiest and best sides in the UEFA cup but threw the game against Dortmund and lost to a mid table Belgium side. We have had a team at least equal to the offerings of the elite clubs for the previous 3 seasons so the whole financial disparity argument is rendered completely void.

Nonsense

We were only in a position to have an attempt to take advantage of the dissarray of the "elite" because he had us punching above our weight in the first place.

Every team above us and a few below us are spending so much more on transfers and wages. Over the course of a season the lack of quality in depth will almost always come through.
 
Really weird how almost every other team developed a winning mentality at the exact same time that they started spending insane amounts on wages and transfers both domestically and in Europe.

It surely can't be about money though. It's erm.. losing mentality stemming from lack of experience, tactical naivety, no bottle... No you idiots. It's money ffs.
 
Nonsense

We were only in a position to have an attempt to take advantage of the dissarray of the "elite" because he had us punching above our weight in the first place.

Every team above us and a few below us are spending so much more on transfers and wages. Over the course of a season the lack of quality in depth will almost always come through.

We have been punching above our weight for well over a decade now, I really do not understand this revionist mindset that this all being driven by Pochettinho.

He walked into a club that had routinely finished at least 5th in the league this decade and contained the likes of Lloris, Vertonghen, Rose, Walker, Dembele, Kane, Eriksen and Lamela which forms the bulk of the side of today. Undoubtedly he has done a good job but he is just one component in the structure.

And I’m sorry but the whole squad argument simply does not wash, we have one of the best in the league, you only have to look at the bench on Saturday as testament to that.

The notion that we cannot win silverware due the financial disparity between us and elite is absolutely absurd when we currently posses a squad that is capable of competing with those sides. I find this line of argument utterly fatuous and it is one that I have read countless times today elsewhere.

I am supposed to believe that despite having a team which most consider superior to United’s yesterday’s loss should be expected due their greater financial strength? I mean WTF.
 
To say we 'bottled' anything is what rival fans like to throw about to make themselves feel better about their team. Why would any Spurs fan use the term?!

It's the same as Spurs fans referencing the 'kop' end of our new stadium.
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As someone who casually used the term in passing on here - there’s no need to be oversensitive to it. I’d prefer it has some kind of destinctive name going forward, but it’s not like there aren’t over a dozen grounds describing single tiers with the ‘kop’ label.

I do agree with the first part though.
 
I dont get how winning the FA Cup stops us finishing top 4. I dont get that theory.



If thats the case, Id happily get rid of every single one of them


I hope so....Moura needs to be a key figure in this side next season.
Not even worth speculating on teams for next season yet though, I can see three or four first teamers leaving to be honest.
Toby's gone and Dier, Eriksen and Dele worry me
Ericksen and Dele worry you ?
Why's that ?
 
Pochettino Has Mastered the Process. A Prize, Any Prize, Still Eludes Him.

In a world where few bother to read anything for long enough not to be distracted this is a must.

We are regularly knocking now and it is just a matter of time if the man stays.

Levy could do worse than to give the man a new contract and commitment.
A good read and well worth the few mins to lift the spirits again after yesterday.

Liked the quote at the end, " But there is another way of looking at that: Pochettino has put the club in a position to fail at the last again. It is not so long ago that it failed a long way before that."
 
We have been punching above our weight for well over a decade now, I really do not understand this revionist mindset that this all being driven by Pochettinho.

He walked into a club that had routinely finished at least 5th in the league this decade and contained the likes of which forms the bulk of the side of today. Undoubtedly he has done a good job but he is just one component in the structure.

And I’m sorry but the whole squad argument simply does not wash, we have one of the best in the league, you only have to look at the bench on Saturday as testament to that.

The notion that we cannot win silverware due the financial disparity between us and elite is absolutely absurd when we currently posses a squad that is capable of competing with those sides. I find this line of argument utterly fatuous and it is one that I have read countless times today elsewhere.

I am supposed to believe that despite having a team which most consider superior to United’s yesterday’s loss should be expected due their greater financial strength? I mean WTF.

Yeah we routinely finished 5th.. And that was before Man City were splashing the oil cash and becoming a giant.

We finished 3rd and 2nd recently. The hardest thing to do is break into that top 4 and then it gets harder the higher up you go. Poch has worked miracles ffs.

The squad argument does apply. We went from the best fullbacks in the league to Davies and Trippier who have played well but are not going to win you titles.

Do you think United would be exactly where they are if they didn't offer Alexis those crazy wages in Jan?

As for inheriting Lloris, Vertonghen, Rose, Walker, Dembele, Kane, Eriksen and Lamela..

Vertonghen has been at his best now
Rose much improved after Poch as with Walker. He made them the best FBs in the league.

Dembele has shown us his best under Poch and some wanted rid before as with Lamela.

Think Poch helped Kane a bit too mate.

You are just a chequebook manager apologist.
 
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