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MENTAL FORTITUDE
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If the post below is representative of our fan base, then sadly not
My God, Fidel. You've made me quite emotional now
Trailblazers in the transfer market. When Spurs came calling, you knew you'd reached the top. Daring To Do.
Trailblazers in fiscal profit margins dont really get the juices flowing quite so much really
How can I be frightened of success? It’s not my success or failure, that’s what I can’t understand about you. You actually believe that the club’s success (or failure) is yours as well. It isn’t mate, you have nothing to do with it. You’ve chosen to be a fan and that’s where it ends. If we won the league that wouldn’t make me a better person anymore than finishing mid-table or worse would make me a loser. It’s got nothing to do with me. I’m pleased when we win and pissed off when we lose, but that’s where it ends for me. I don’t demand that Spurs should make me happy - they don’t - but supporting Spurs is fun - at least it used to be. I honestly can’t see where the fun comes in for you.
I have no agenda with you, but you clearly have one with the club. 95% of your posts are on the same subject. I get it John, honestly I do. You’re a winner without winning.
Edit: On reflection I don’t think you hate Spurs, but I do think you resent them for not making you happy.
And now I’m going into the garden. Have a good day.
No.
The melts, moaners, negative, never happy micro dicks who are shitting themselves right now are who I am specifically referring to. The ones that go silent in a semi-final, lost their voices because they are too weak-minded, loose their bottle, who only sing when the team is winning, then say the team had no bottle. Those John.
Get yourself over the Orient, then you would realise how good we have it lol
Seriously though, even when I had my season ticket over the Lane I would be gutted we lost, but twenty minutes later I would be in the pub and over it. The football never ruined the day out.
Seriously though, even when I had my season ticket over the Lane I would be gutted we lost, but twenty minutes later I would be in the pub and over it. The football never ruined the day out.
As with most things it’s a combination of things. Mentality is one aspect of it, but not the be all and end all.
This team has shown incredible mental strength. That first half away to Juve looked like it was going to be a disaster, but the players rolled with the punches, pulled themselves together, and rose to the challenge. Yet if Juve’s second penalty had gone in it wouldn’t have really mattered that we regrouped so well.
I think it’s possible that the players (or at least some of them) lack focus once they feel they’ve failed to meet their target. We saw it after the ‘battle of the Bridge’ (especially away to Newcastle) and we’ve seen it after the semi-final this season. We look like we’re playing with damaged pride.
Or it could simply be burn-out. We struggled with that when Pochettino first came here, but we seemed to learn how to manage it better. Perhaps our CL exploits and a long cup run has thrown a spanner in the works of the club’s fitness management.
We’ve also got Kane struggling with fitness, further exacerbated by negative media attention. A fully fit and on fire Kane might have taken that first half chance against Brom, and suddenly the whole nature of that match changes. Equally, if Stoke had beaten Palace we’d be playing in front of a deflated crowd and against a far less fired up opponent.
So mentality is a factor, but so are tiredness, injuries, missed opportunities, and external circumstances.
This team has shown incredible mental strength. That first half away to Juve looked like it was going to be a disaster, but the players rolled with the punches, pulled themselves together, and rose to the challenge. Yet if Juve’s second penalty had gone in it wouldn’t have really mattered that we regrouped so well.
I think it’s possible that the players (or at least some of them) lack focus once they feel they’ve failed to meet their target. We saw it after the ‘battle of the Bridge’ (especially away to Newcastle) and we’ve seen it after the semi-final this season. We look like we’re playing with damaged pride.
Or it could simply be burn-out. We struggled with that when Pochettino first came here, but we seemed to learn how to manage it better. Perhaps our CL exploits and a long cup run has thrown a spanner in the works of the club’s fitness management.
We’ve also got Kane struggling with fitness, further exacerbated by negative media attention. A fully fit and on fire Kane might have taken that first half chance against Brom, and suddenly the whole nature of that match changes. Equally, if Stoke had beaten Palace we’d be playing in front of a deflated crowd and against a far less fired up opponent.
So mentality is a factor, but so are tiredness, injuries, missed opportunities, and external circumstances.
Erm......have not watched AFTV?
I don’t think there’s anything wrong in being angry about a poor performance. I don’t know of anyone who was happy at the weekend.
There’s just a bit of room between happy clapping and melting. We should be able to lose a match or two without needing to sack the manager and sell half the players.
We’ve had one or two dodgy performances and our entire squad is in question, our scouting under fire, our manager is useless, the fans are crap, we shouldn’t be moving stadium, etc. After a couple of dodgy games.
There’s being unhappy with a performance and there’s melting. I’m the former and I believe you are too. But many on here are not.
But Peter Taylor was renowned for his Norman Wisdom impression!
Mr Grimsdale
Some interesting responses here to a timely thread (because we ‘the fans’ have no agency, our anxiety bubbles over and leads to frets and panics and to chat like this - it can’t wait for the end of the season. We have to address it now even though we know it will have no effect on the players whatsoever). Call it letting off steam - it needs to happen.
There are two schools of thought on our perceived ‘weaknesses’: 1)it’s endemic; part of the fabric of the club - “lads, it’s Tottenham” Ferguson or “we are playing the Drury Lane Tap dancers today” Shankly. Our ‘Spursey-ness’ just won’t allow success no matter how many changes of personnel we go through. I know some think like this and I see why but have to disagree.
So, focussing on Poch’s reign.
I do think we lack a leader or figurehead. I take the point that’s it’s not “1985” but it needn’t take the form of outright aggression, perhaps a player or two who knows how to win and how to manage a tight situation.
Yes, we have punched above our weight and are probably (just) ahead of the Levy/Poch ‘project/timescale’ but I think it’s acceptable for us fans to show (mildly) our displeasure at failing to get over the line/win important games/close out from winning positions. We’ve demonstrated a worrying trend toward this over the last 3 seasons. We’ve had dips in form this year in the league amongst some superb individual results and satisfying unbeaten runs and I thank the team and Poch for that .
In 2017/18 though, with Citeh running away with the league, it’s been the cup defeats that have really grated:
West Ham (LC) 2-0 up
Juve (CL) 1-0 up
Man Ure (FA) 1-0 up
I haven’t like Poch’s attitude to the domestic cups. I think it breeds complacency. Say what you like about Maureen but he knows that (any) silverware unites a club/fans and galvanises a squad. It also makes that team more attractive to prospective recruits.
I know most football fans could probably swear blind that they ‘just knew’ their team would blow it in the final straight, when most of the hard work had been done. But with our club we appear to be developing a worrying habit.
I’m not in full panic mode yet but I’m really not confident going into the last week of our season. And that is based on the evidence before my eyes...
There are two schools of thought on our perceived ‘weaknesses’: 1)it’s endemic; part of the fabric of the club - “lads, it’s Tottenham” Ferguson or “we are playing the Drury Lane Tap dancers today” Shankly. Our ‘Spursey-ness’ just won’t allow success no matter how many changes of personnel we go through. I know some think like this and I see why but have to disagree.
So, focussing on Poch’s reign.
I do think we lack a leader or figurehead. I take the point that’s it’s not “1985” but it needn’t take the form of outright aggression, perhaps a player or two who knows how to win and how to manage a tight situation.
Yes, we have punched above our weight and are probably (just) ahead of the Levy/Poch ‘project/timescale’ but I think it’s acceptable for us fans to show (mildly) our displeasure at failing to get over the line/win important games/close out from winning positions. We’ve demonstrated a worrying trend toward this over the last 3 seasons. We’ve had dips in form this year in the league amongst some superb individual results and satisfying unbeaten runs and I thank the team and Poch for that .
In 2017/18 though, with Citeh running away with the league, it’s been the cup defeats that have really grated:
West Ham (LC) 2-0 up
Juve (CL) 1-0 up
Man Ure (FA) 1-0 up
I haven’t like Poch’s attitude to the domestic cups. I think it breeds complacency. Say what you like about Maureen but he knows that (any) silverware unites a club/fans and galvanises a squad. It also makes that team more attractive to prospective recruits.
I know most football fans could probably swear blind that they ‘just knew’ their team would blow it in the final straight, when most of the hard work had been done. But with our club we appear to be developing a worrying habit.
I’m not in full panic mode yet but I’m really not confident going into the last week of our season. And that is based on the evidence before my eyes...
Blimey l had forgotten . I think.l remember him doing it on the Big Match when he pulled his cap on. Worth every penny just for that.But Peter Taylor was renowned for his Norman Wisdom impression!
Mr Grimsdale
So
John then......
If you started using the words 'fam' and 'blud' a bit more I could make you into a star. If you want an agent PM me
Just randomly clicked on the first page of this thread - I almost always skip forward to the last page regardless, screw the preamble show me the action - and realized 8 pages in 24 hours. Cunt offs a plenty, I’m sure. Who got binned? How many multis showed up? Thank you for my evening’s entertainment
SausageVince
SausageVince
This sums up the melts perfectly. They dream of the days we got relegated but spent more money than other teams. Even if the players are shit, as long as they are expensive they will be happy. They dream of the Net Spend trophy. What a bunch of needy, entitled, brats
Any timeJust randomly clicked on the first page of this thread - I almost always skip forward to the last page regardless, screw the preamble show me the action - and realized 8 pages in 24 hours. Cunt offs a plenty, I’m sure. Who got binned? How many multis showed up? Thank you for my evening’s entertainment
Pipes, I like you. I know you dislike me, but I like you. This is an anonymous forum of Spurs supporters. What a strange place for me to seek attention. Look at me? Look at what? My anonymity? My sausage pseudonym?
Sad my comrade you have no empathany with your fellow betheren. These that followed Spurs in a desperate time ,relegation and the old second division. Steadfast and loyal .
Unlike many/most today who would soon Fuck off if we got relegated, especially a global fan base.
Sometimes compassion rewards the soul of human kindness than bitterness and hate .