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Can’t wait until we win the league with the youngsters who just got a 4-1 spanking by the majestic Girona.

Amirite, sammyspurs sammyspurs Totti Totti Airfixx Airfixx ?

Fucking retards

Isn’t it funny that you were nowhere to be seen when we beat Milan with 6 academy in the team....


Interesting the Toby situation too, Poch dropping him and seemingly sanctioning his sale.
How will the plastics work their way out slating Levy but still trying to suckle on Pochs cock?

It’s time some of you just accept that Poch is a key player in the regime you detest so much.
He’s an integral part of the club, his son is in the academy, he has his coaches here, he’s signed a long term contract.

Yet the plastics all believe that Poch is at turmoil with everything and agrees with them.

Remember plastics, no pre season if we do sign someone now right......isn’t that a catastrophe?
Isn’t it odd that you think the manager has nothing to do with signings.....like he hands Levy a list and waits for them to turn up for training.
Most new players have lauded Pochs influence behind the decision to join us...when will you dare to slag him off for our lack of activity?

Have a good think about it.

You’re on the outside, looking in. You are the
Claude, Mo and Ty of the Spurs fans.
Must feel great.
 
Things like this don't worry me, IF, we improve ourselves in the process. I think Toby has limitations which Poch feels doesn't help the team and that's why Dav and Jan are first preferred option. If he goes to Man Ure, Poch will have plans how to get after him.

I would like to think the managar worried more about the other 36 games.

Alderweireld has been excellent. He has also suffered a bad injury. Being cynical I would take 40 million or ewuivalent every day for a bloke whose contract is running down and is 30 next birthday.

We can't laugh at Woolwich and then allow similar to happen to us.
 
It's a little bit more acute than that - if we signed an over 21 year old foreign trained player we'd have to leave out 4 players from our PL squad and 5 players from our CL squad.

In short, we aren't going to sign a foreign trained player without selling at least one......all links to a player not trained in England are complete bollocks
Or just leave out from our squad the unwanted player we were trying to sell.
 
Isn’t it funny that you were nowhere to be seen when we beat Milan with 6 academy in the team....


Interesting the Toby situation too, Poch dropping him and seemingly sanctioning his sale.
How will the plastics work their way out slating Levy but still trying to suckle on Pochs cock?

It’s time some of you just accept that Poch is a key player in the regime you detest so much.
He’s an integral part of the club, his son is in the academy, he has his coaches here, he’s signed a long term contract.

Yet the plastics all believe that Poch is at turmoil with everything and agrees with them.

Remember plastics, no pre season if we do sign someone now right......isn’t that a catastrophe?
Isn’t it odd that you think the manager has nothing to do with signings.....like he hands Levy a list and waits for them to turn up for training.
Most new players have lauded Pochs influence behind the decision to join us...when will you dare to slag him off for our lack of activity?

Have a good think about it.

You’re on the outside, looking in. You are the
Claude, Mo and Ty of the Spurs fans.
Must feel great.
Your comparisons about cock sucking are probably apt but isn't it tit suckling?
 
Isn’t it funny that you were nowhere to be seen when we beat Milan with 6 academy in the team....


Interesting the Toby situation too, Poch dropping him and seemingly sanctioning his sale.
How will the plastics work their way out slating Levy but still trying to suckle on Pochs cock?

It’s time some of you just accept that Poch is a key player in the regime you detest so much.
He’s an integral part of the club, his son is in the academy, he has his coaches here, he’s signed a long term contract.

Yet the plastics all believe that Poch is at turmoil with everything and agrees with them.

Remember plastics, no pre season if we do sign someone now right......isn’t that a catastrophe?
Isn’t it odd that you think the manager has nothing to do with signings.....like he hands Levy a list and waits for them to turn up for training.
Most new players have lauded Pochs influence behind the decision to join us...when will you dare to slag him off for our lack of activity?

Have a good think about it.

You’re on the outside, looking in. You are the
Claude, Mo and Ty of the Spurs fans.
Must feel great.
Poch doesn't negotiate the deals, he scouts the players. You're the Ty of Tottenham fans, bit ironic. I don't quite understand you, you lambast people for worrying about the direction of the club and these people do so because they care. They're not real fans in your opinion, but evidently you don't really follow the club. You don't know anything about the transfer targets, don't know anything about the current injury situation, don't know anything about the academy and honestly a bit clueless to the team in general. Then you say that foreign fans can never be real fans because we don't attend regularly, but then say that you yourself haven't attended in almost 20 years. You're a weird one, Sammy
 
I would like to think the managar worried more about the other 36 games.

Alderweireld has been excellent. He has also suffered a bad injury. Being cynical I would take 40 million or ewuivalent every day for a bloke whose contract is running down and is 30 next birthday.

We can't laugh at Woolwich and then allow similar to happen to us.

I said it before, Toby is a fantastic defender in a flat back line that defends deeper with play in front of them. Once he gets pulled out of position he's not the same player. Dav allows us to play a higher back line that Poch favours. So the argument is really a matter of principal over a matter of practicality.

Big team simply do whats best for them and don't care about other teams. If we're holding onto Toby to simply show we're "big time" then we are a lot smaller than we want to think we are.
 
I was thinking more of Whiteman since he was on the preseason tour. As little as we use our 3rd keeper wouldn't it make sense to use someone who will count towards homegrown quota?
I raised this in the youth/u21 thread.
It really does seem to be a waste of a CL berth to take 3 keepers (all non HG)
We definitely need to name 3 keepers in case of absolute disaster, but not all non HG, surely?
Unless of course all our youth keepers are utter turd.
I accept it’s a risk to throw a young English keeper in at the deep end, but it’s a calculated risk and frees up a space elsewhere, in a position where it is likely to be more beneficial.
 
Isn’t it funny that you were nowhere to be seen when we beat Milan with 6 academy in the team....


Interesting the Toby situation too, Poch dropping him and seemingly sanctioning his sale.
How will the plastics work their way out slating Levy but still trying to suckle on Pochs cock?

It’s time some of you just accept that Poch is a key player in the regime you detest so much.
He’s an integral part of the club, his son is in the academy, he has his coaches here, he’s signed a long term contract.

Yet the plastics all believe that Poch is at turmoil with everything and agrees with them.

Remember plastics, no pre season if we do sign someone now right......isn’t that a catastrophe?
Isn’t it odd that you think the manager has nothing to do with signings.....like he hands Levy a list and waits for them to turn up for training.
Most new players have lauded Pochs influence behind the decision to join us...when will you dare to slag him off for our lack of activity?

Have a good think about it.

You’re on the outside, looking in. You are the
Claude, Mo and Ty of the Spurs fans.
Must feel great.

Poch may be happy to see Toby go but I doubt he has any say on whom we sell him to and for how much. That is all down to Levy.

Also, most of the people on here aren't plastics ffs. We dont win enough to attract that type of 'fan' anyway!
 
Jordan Pickford plays league one football. We just gave Vorm a new one year contract (deservedly so too), and have Gazzaniga.
 
Poch may be happy to see Toby go but I doubt he has any say on whom we sell him to and for how much. That is all down to Levy.

Also, most of the people on here aren't plastics ffs. We dont win enough to attract that type of 'fan' anyway!

Mate, Levy didn’t drop Toby, Poch did.
If Poch wanted Toby in the squad, he wouldn’t have been outcasted and certainly not sold above his head.

The manager of any club has a huge role in signings.....he’s not a head coach, he is the manager.
He has the same role as Jose......I don’t hear anyone saying “Woodward signed Pogba”.......

The simple fact is none of them dare to slate Poch. As I said, he is an integral part of a regime they despise though, and one he has committed his long term future too and that of his son and coaching staff.
They are trying to separate Poch from the club in some way......what’s the difference if the Mail run a story that some of the utter cunts spout daily on here?

Trying so hard to put some kind of spin on it that Poch doesn’t deal with signings......while sniping that others “seem to have inside knowledge of the clubs workings”.....ironic huh

It’s weird to read Liverpool and gooner comments mocking us that mirror so many opinions on here don’t you think?
Actually there is even more bile on TFC about spurs than there is on scum mania.

And I’m afraid they are all plastic, because all that matters to them is trophies. And the only way to get it is signings in their eyes.


Not progress, not the academy, not self sufficiency and the long term health of the club, not the stadium, not the current squad, not steady progress, not building, not policy.

What matters to them is “did we sign Anthony Martial”.

Doesn’t get more plastic.
 
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Toby is a fantastic CB. He makes our squad significantly better. Our defense was a bit of a mess before he got here. And he looked back to near top form at the World Cup.

But we are not able (or willing) to meet his contract demands, so it probably makes sense to move him on. I wouldn't want a mopey cunt (even if he is one of the best CBs in the league) in the locker room. And it would be best to get rid of him now as we will only get 25 mil next year.

If we could, shipping him outside of the Premier League is probably worth a 10 mill discount, because fuck United. But if he isn't willing to accept a move elsewhere or if United is the only club willing to pay a decent sum for Toby, we should sell to United.

The key to all of this is having our incomings lined up by the time we sell.

TLDR: Toby is a fantastic player. But get him the fuck out of here, even to United if we have to.
 
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