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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Totti said:
How many 18 year olds start in the Championship?
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He only started 4 games tho so it wasn't like he was nailed on to the Leeds starting 11.

He was however fairly well involved in their first team with plenty of appearances off the bench.

Clarke would be a signing for the future, which makes sense. But I also understand those that want our first signing of the summer to be a bit more marquee.

I also fully agree with the club that Clarke is not worth Leeds asking price of 20 mil.
 
Totti said:
The Eriksen predicament is solved by signing Ndombele and Lo Celso.

The Alderweireld predicament is solved (slowly) by just sticking with Sanchez and allowing him and Vertonghen to form a partnership with consistent game time. Sanchez isn't on Alderweirelds level, but he's 23 years old and signing someone else just further halts his development when he needs game time.
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Good post.
 
Bill Madrid said:
Strawman argument, the OP didn't say we should spend like City. I'm surprised you didn't mention Messi.

What he did say was "Get business done early and make sure our manager has his first choice targets" - what is anyone's problem with that?
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It's not a "strawman' it's a hangover from a previous discussion whereupon the fella repeatedly said we should "spend like city" (exact quote!) yet repeatedly failed to see the flaw in his 'genius' (if not repetitively expressed) plan.

I'm just being economical in my efforts when addressing a lost cause.
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
You're an insufferable bore mate, you really are. You clearly don't get it because I have reiterated about 50 times now that in order for us to seriously compete with City and Liverpool realistically we have to match them in the market or we will continue to remain where we are or go backwards.


Our manager wants to win things and he knows what it takes to make that happen, some of our supporters seem to be happy with us just being in the top four, I am glad he doesn't share that loser mentality.

I am not saying we can spend the money either, I am not saying we will, I am saying that's what's necessary if we want to continuously win trophies, our manager knows that as well, the reality is that probably won't happen until ENIC sell up.

You have yet to dispute what I am saying with any rational fucking argument, you just keep repeating that " Spend like City" bullshit with absolutley zero context to try and cunt me off.

You should give Levy a call and ask if he needs an accountant.

Let me ask you something Air while I am here, what do you actually want this football club to achieve? And if it's winning trophies (which I assume it is?) How do you think we can do that without competing against clubs that can currently obliterate us in the transfer market and buy up all the top talent who are actually capable of winning trophies?

The only realistic answer is that our current owners either completely change their policy and match the teams above us and find a way to spend at that level or we get new owners, is it not?

Unless of course you think we can compete with clubs like Real Madrid, City etc without matching them in financial terms over the long term?

I mean, for me personally, I want us to become the best club in world football, isn't that the goal for every supporter?
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Silly boy.

Still can't see the glaring flaw in your ever so meticulously devised plan, can you?

(I haven't posted for a week, FFS.... Meanwhile you're making the same tired post over and over for the last50 pages.... Yet I'm tedious... Whatever you say, champ! :adethumbup: )
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
Get your head out of Levys warm moist arsecrack for five seconds and wake the fuck up, not all of us want to sit here and live in some sort of alternative reality fantasy world where we delude ourselves into believing he will suddenly change the habit of a lifetime.

Until he shows it then I will remain sceptical, forgive me for doing so considering we haven't purchased a single fucking player in 18 months and have had our own manager consistently talking about how we need to strengthen.

Unless people seriously believe that Poch has been happy to not sign a single player in that entire time? In which case they need a reality check and to put the crack pipe down.
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We’ve just built a billion pound stadium, please get some perspective
 
Airfixx said:
It's not a "strawman' it's a hangover from a previous discussion whereupon the fella repeatedly said we should "spend like city" (exact quote!) yet repeatedly failed to see the flaw in his 'genius' (if not repetitively expressed) plan.

I'm just being economical in my efforts when addressing a lost cause.
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Fair enough, although no one else is making this argument, although they are constantly accused of doing so, hence my comment.

As for "Get business done early and make sure our manager has his first choice targets", surely you can't have any gripe with that?
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
I am open to others opinions, I have listened and tried to understand where they are coming from but nobody has given me any reason to believe I shouldn't be concerned about the way we do business in regards to transfers.

You say "no one agrees with you" but that simply isn't true whatsoever, there is a handful of people on here that disagree with me, the same 5-6 posters, if you take a look around, on this forum and outside of this forum you will find that the general consensus in regards to Levy and transfers is one of frustration and annoyance.

So actually, the people disagreeing with me here is the contrarion view, I am trying to understand why people believe that suddenly, after years and years of behaving in a certain way, they think Levy and ENIC will suddenly change and go on a huge spending spree, we hear it every window and we get linked to all these quality players and it never materialises, the majority of our fans are wise to how Levy operates, some supporters just don't want to believe it.
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How do you propose we "spend like City" without the wealth (and FFP heat) of City?

(You failed numerous times previously.... Got a new twists on anything?)
 
Airfixx said:
Silly boy.

Still can't see the glaring flaw in your ever so meticulously devised plan, can you?

(I haven't posted for a week, FFS.... Meanwhile you're making the same tired post over and over for the last50 pages.... Yet I'm tedious... Whatever you say, champ! :adethumbup: )
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Maybe I can't see the flaw because everytime I have asked you to point it out you have ignored my request in favour of sarcastic retorts.

I don't have a "plan" me saying that in order for us to remain competitive we have to spend money like City and Pool doesn't mean I think we can or will under ENIC, that's the mistake you are making, I am simply saying that's what's required for us to move to the next level and our manager thinks the same.

I said your tedious because in every post you quote of mine you say the same out of context thing but you never ever answer my questions and instead decide to just be sarcastic, I don't think your tedious in general, I actually agree with the majority of what you say, I am just tired of you bringing out the same bullshit "Yes we get it mate, you want us to spend like City and think Levy should just spend money even if we don't have it" which I have never said, I have simply said, IF we want to win the league or the CL on a regular basis, or at all, then we will have to change the way we operate and spend like the clubs above us do and if Levy and ENIC can't or won't do it then we will remain where we are unless we get new owners who do.

You have yet to explain to me what you think the alternative is?
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
What difference does that make? Am I wrong? Please tell me how we can continuously compete for titles in this league and in the CL if we aren't matching those clubs financially?

People seem to think we can continue to operate under our current model and have continued success, keyword being continued because any team is capable of pulling off a Leicester at some point but in order to remain consistent and win titles, I am afraid you have to match the financial output of the teams above us.
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...And what if we can't?

You'll fuck off like Atomic knob Atomic knob in the post you agreed with, right?
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
Sigh, others telling people to support another club because they would rather defend our lack of spending and ambition than face the reality that modern football, unfortunately, is about how much money you spend.

Money, 90% of the time, equals success in football now, telling people to support another club because they realise in order for us to be a serious competitor we have to start behaving like one in the transfer market is childish.
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So, Mr 'Future Apprentice Champion'; how does a business sustainably outspend another that has more spending power than them?
 
Larry David said:
We’ve just built a billion pound stadium, please get some perspective
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What's us building a billion pound stadium got to do with our ambition on the pitch?

If we want to sincerely compete for the PL and CL we can't afford to let that stand in our way or we risk becoming like Woolwich, a new stadium and fuck all to show for it.

We have also been told that the stadium wouldn't have an impact on spending?

My perspective is the same as our managers, I want us to win things and be the best club in the world and I know in order to do that we have to compete financially on the pitch, even if I dislike the idea of being a club like Man City.
 
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