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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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I'm not sure but I think we have signed a couple of youngsters already this window? A keeper and a forward? (although I could be wrong)

I think you're right, but they're academy players I believe? It's the players who have had a brief intro to first team football I'm thinking of. It can't be THAT difficult to draw up a watch-list of 50 young British players who have between 5 and 50 games under their belt and then to just go for it, making some mistakes but also signing some gems who make the whole outlay worthwhile. If that makes sense.
 

33 m 11/12
13m 13/14
16m 15/16
5m 18/19

we are not building this year.
Sorry - I thought you meant we've spent rather than made money. This proves my point further if anything - our cost have ballooned for obvious reasons

We are not building but have a massive debt to service and no Naming Rights in place - are you trolling, mate?
 
Daniel James who United have signed looks like a quality player and Sean Longstaff from Newcastle who they're apparently going for looks like a real prospect too.

I'm a big Levy fan but I have to say I think we've made an error in not making more young British signings, getting hold of players before there value sky rockets. Alli and Dier have added approx £130 million to the value of our squad with their development and watching Winks grow into a real player has been one of the most satisfying things of the past 24 months.

I think we should and should've speculated even more on young British talent in the past two years and should now. We'll find some gems and even when we make a mistake, the net transfer spend would still look great, which would surely please the bald-headed one.

Of course we should also make major, world-class signings but I can't see why we shouldn't have signed another 3-4 promising young British players, it's a strategy that works.

The thing is, you need to give them the opportunity to develop as well. We've got a couple of young british players already on our books, who didn't get much playing time, despite the fact that we needed some extra bodies (KWP, Skipp).

Ideally we'd pick up a couple of these players and loan them out to lower Premier League clubs, like we did with Kyle Walker, etc. If they turn out to be decent, can give them a run in our first team, and if not, sell them on.

Clearly the club have decided to move away from this kind of set up though, which I believe was down to Poch's aversion to loaning players out.
 
Sorry - I thought you meant we've spent rather than made money. This proves my point further if anything - our cost have ballooned for obvious reasons

We are not building but have a massive debt to service and no Naming Rights in place - are you trolling, mate?
I corrected - last 3 years we have -17 & -30.

Our costs servicing debt have gone up but the revenue has gone up further - simply -estimates are 50m service the debt and 80 M extra revenue - should give us an extra 30M. That's just from the stadium.
 
How many of these do you think were positive signings?

1. Davinson Sanchez (£40million)
2. Moussa Sissoko (£35million)
3. Roberto Soldado (£30million)
4. Erik Lamela (£30million)
5. Heung-Min Son (£30million
6. Lucas Moura (£28.4million)
7. Serge Aurier (£25million)
8. Darren Bent (£24.7million)
9. Vincent Janssen (£22.1million)
10. David Bentley (£22million)


Positive

Sanchez
Sissoko
Lamela (when fit)
Son
Lucas

Didn’t work

Janssen
Bent
Bentley
Soldado

Haven’t made up my mind

Aurier
 
I corrected - last 3 years we have -17 & -30.

Our costs servicing debt have gone up but the revenue has gone up further - simply -estimates are 50m service the debt and 80 M extra revenue - should give us an extra 30M. That's just from the stadium.
That's conjecture and oversimplification at best

Anyhow - if you think we'll sign 80m players this window - happy to be proven wrong. Just can't see it happening myself unless we unveil the naming rights
 
The thing is, you need to give them the opportunity to develop as well. We've got a couple of young british players already on our books, who didn't get much playing time, despite the fact that we needed some extra bodies (KWP, Skipp).

Ideally we'd pick up a couple of these players and loan them out to lower Premier League clubs, like we did with Kyle Walker, etc. If they turn out to be decent, can give them a run in our first team, and if not, sell them on.

Clearly the club have decided to move away from this kind of set up though, which I believe was down to Poch's aversion to loaning players out.

Agree on all fronts, I just think it's the wrong strategy to move away from this way of working when it's been hugely successful for us.

If we signed two players per year with the kind of profile I've suggested, we'd be in big profit I'd suggest, plus our squad would have another 2-3 young stars in it. If you're signing players for £10-20 million, and 1 in 4 goes onto be a star, it's worth it.
 
I think you're right, but they're academy players I believe? It's the players who have had a brief intro to first team football I'm thinking of. It can't be THAT difficult to draw up a watch-list of 50 young British players who have between 5 and 50 games under their belt and then to just go for it, making some mistakes but also signing some gems who make the whole outlay worthwhile. If that makes sense.

I'm hoping both Clarke and Sessengon sign this summer. They seem a more plausible option to me too.
 
That's conjecture and oversimplification at best

Anyhow - if you think we'll sign 80m players this window - happy to be proven wrong. Just can't see it happening myself unless we unveil the naming rights
It was vast oversimplification and conjecture you are right, as is the opposite, we wont know the cash flows for 2 years.

I think its very likely we will get NDombele - he will be the top signing and wont be 80m, are you including him in the statement?
 
How many of these do you think were positive signings?

1. Davinson Sanchez (£40million)
2. Moussa Sissoko (£35million)
3. Roberto Soldado (£30million)
4. Erik Lamela (£30million)
5. Heung-Min Son (£30million
6. Lucas Moura (£28.4million)
7. Serge Aurier (£25million)
8. Darren Bent (£24.7million)
9. Vincent Janssen (£22.1million)
10. David Bentley (£22million)


Thanks for this, I always thought our big money signings were mostly meh but I couldn't be bothered listing them

Son is the only one who has proven to be special. The rest we could have done without and not missed anything

Yes we as a club tend to do better with cheaper signings or youngsters from the academy as your other list proves

Amazing really
 
It was vast oversimplification and conjecture you are right, as is the opposite, we wont know the cash flows for 2 years.

I think its very likely we will get NDombele - he will be the top signing and wont be 80m, are you including him in the statement?
Let me clarify - we can sign for 80m if we sell for 85m

I simply don't believe we have a massive kitty, that's all
 
That's conjecture and oversimplification at best

Anyhow - if you think we'll sign 80m players this window - happy to be proven wrong. Just can't see it happening myself unless we unveil the naming rights

Well some people think we will do a leeds if we "spend above our means" anyway so It will probably be music to their ears.

Even though these same people want us to win trophies but offer no alternative whatsoever to "spending above our means" in order to achieve that goal, that's the thing that makes me laugh.

I just want to understand at what point did some of our fanbase start caring more about business than they do about football? It's like they care more about "doing it the right way" (whilst ignoring we just spent over a billion on a stadium which means that we are hardly the underdogs that people make us out to be) than they do about actually seeing us achieve anything in their lifetimes, they seem to think that if we spend money on players we will go broke, as if that's even possible in this day and age with a premier league club, we would get bought out long before that ever happened.

I can't imagine what it's like living every single day worrying about the finances of a football club worth billions and "doing things the right way" rather than actually giving a shit about what's important, like you know, watching our club win things.

Each to their own I suppose, I get it, some don't want us to "buy success" well when we inevitably get purchased by someone who does buy us success those supporters are free to go and support a club that wins fuck all for the rest of their lives whilst the rest of us can enjoy watching the club we love win things "the wrong way."

I used to give a shit about how things were won but after watching us get into a CL final and come so close I had an awakening, this is what I want our club to experience on a regular basis and frankly, I don't give a toss how we do it, after waiting 30+ years and nearly 12 years without a trophy I think plenty of us have shown enough patience.
 
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Thanks for this, I always thought our big money signings were mostly meh but I couldn't be bothered listing them

Son is the only one who has proven to be special. The rest we could have done without and not missed anything

Yes we as a club tend to do better with cheaper signings or youngsters from the academy as your other list proves

Amazing really

Both Sanchez and Foyth will surprise a lot of people in the not too distant future. Sanchez will be massive for us. It's easy to forget he's still only young so understandable why he's written off so frequently.
 
Let me clarify - we can sign for 80m if we sell for 85m

I simply don't believe we have a massive kitty, that's all

Then Pochettino walks because our model runs counter to even the so called lesser Prem clubs.

It's a mad world the Premier but we also generate an insane amount of money.

Excuses are limited, even with the new stadium and Pochettino will see his stock diminish if he presides over a downward spiral, and that comes if we are Scrooge-like again this summer.
 
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Well some people think we will do a leeds if we "spend above our means" anyway so It will probably be music to their ears.

Even though these same people want us to win trophies but offer no alternative whatsoever to "spending above our means" in order to achieve that goal, that's the thing that makes me laugh.

I just want to understand at what point did some of our fanbase start caring more about business than they do about football? It's like they care more about "doing it the right way" (whilst ignoring we just spent over a billion on a stadium which means that we are hardly the underdogs that people make us out to be) than they do about actually seeing us achieve anything in their lifetimes, they seem to think that if we spend money on players we will go broke, as if that's even possible in this day and age with a premier league club, we would get bought out long before that ever happened.

I can't imagine what it's like living every single day worrying about the finances of a football club worth billions and "doing things the right way" rather than actually giving a shit about what's important, like you know, watching our club win things.

Each to their own I suppose, I get it, some don't want us to "buy success" well when we inevitably get purchased by someone who does buy us success those supporters are free to go and support a club that wins fuck all for the rest of their lives whilst the rest of us can enjoy watching the club we love win things "the wrong way."

I used to give a shit about how things were won but after watching us get into a CL final and come so close I had an awakening, this is what I want our club to experience on a regular basis and frankly, I don't give a toss how we do it, after waiting 30+ years and nearly 12 years without a trophy I think plenty of us have shown enough patience.
you seem to care more about business than football- you want us to spend all the money, that's business. Others are happy for the manager to care about the football.
 
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