I had this debate with him a few years ago & he could never give an example. Just kept telling me man city are shit & spending money is a waste of time. They then won the title twice in a row despite all this waste of money!
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Management Poch out?
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Him playing for us with levy as chairman means he has more insight than any of us.
Amazing the lengths to which some of you will go in order to try avoid blaming Poch for his constant failure.
Maybe if he had another 200 million to spend he could of beaten Colshester or not played Vorm in goal or put Son in left back or waited until the last 10 to make a sub or-
Maybe if he had another 200 million to spend he could of beaten Colshester or not played Vorm in goal or put Son in left back or waited until the last 10 to make a sub or-
Noone is blameless. That is the size of the sh*t-show on offer currently.
I presume no example will be given...just endless "It's obvious" "can't you see" style debate without any actual evidence/facts....
Studies have demonstrated changing managers statistically in the long run has little to no effect .https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/sacking-managers-pointless-stats-slaven-bilic-west-ham-premier-league-a8044586.html
..yet people dont want to hear evidence that confronts their predetermined view.
Most of the time changing managers dosent have an effect so therefore we can never change managers?
I'm sorry but what do you honestly think someone should stick with an appualing manager due to the law of averages.
No I am saying they have more insight than you & me, not that they must be right. We our nobodies with no insight except as spectators. Let's agree to disagree. You think you or others on here know as much as actual players who played under levy. I think we all barely no anything compared to professional managers or players.
I want Mourinho. And I want these cuntish players to suffer
But there's ignoring the facts baz. Rose is unhappy & I don't think poch is the root cause. Eriksen is meant to want a different challenge. Toby more £££. We also are ignoring that we lose our best players because they want titles or big pay rise which I guess isn't levy's fault too. Suddenly it's ok if players want to go.
Correct except our player situation is very peculiar.
Just caught him on MOTD. Looked like he didn't care. No anger. Nothing there. Just a calm meh. I don't get that. I'd be fucking furious.
Agree to disagree we must, but nevertheless i'm sure most couldn't care less about the opinions of Jenas or any former footballer, until they happen to line up with their own and then they suddenly become correct.
It's amazing the lengths people will go to protect Levy and ENIC on here, especially considering the amount of managerial failures they have overseen and the lack of silverware they have produced for this club, Poch was a golden goose for Levy, a man who has produced top quality football and made us CL regulars on a shoestring compared to our rivals and even teams below them.
And when he was essentially giving people warnings about the state of the squad 3 windows ago and saying how we needed to be active in the market so we can go to the next level or we could face failure, nobody listened, they just made excuses for our failings to refresh the squad.
Now I also agree with you, the manager is to blame for the results you have mentioned and many more, he simply isn't doing good enough and the blame for these results is his and the players, hence why he should lose his job imo as should some of the players but I can see where the cracks started to appear and I can also see why Poch would be fed up.
To suggest that Levy is innocent in all of this or he isn't to blame is to ignore all his failings with previous managers as well as with Poch, this isn't something new.
Like I say though, Levy is just doing his job and frankly, he is doing it well, he is running us as a financially stable business and has built a ground which will generate revenue for his employers for years to come.
The issue isn't Levy, the issue is the ownership and their lack of ambition for silverware, it's rarely if ever going to happen under ENIC and their model.
It won't be him but it might be.
No of course not, my point is hes getting too much blame....just as he was getting too much praise when we were really good.....Lots of People attributed our success hugely to him which I strongly disagreed with...our squad was class hence why we were good....now hes getting too much stick but the main reason weve declined is imo our squads decline....
there are definitely things to criticise about Pochetino and you could make a case for sacking him imo, I just hate this idea that if we had say Klopp or Pep wed be challenging for titles...It's completely divorced from any actual evidence
Yep. Change our manager & it will be still top 4 at best.
I get what you’re saying but we’re also talking about the atmosphere in the dressing room and general morale
How can Pochs comments about leaving sit well with our team ?
Yep. You stick with strangers online.
I never suggested that Levy was Innocent and I'm in full agreement with you that mistakes were made especially regarding successive windows that went by without signings.
I just happen to not like it when certain posters bring up Levy all of a sudden when discussing something that is intrinsic to a manager such as when and which substitutions are made.