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Supporters Rudiger claims he heard monkey chants

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Sorry. In Chicago this year, an actor named Jesse Smollett reported to police that two white guys wearing MAGA hats beat him up, put a noose around his neck and poured bleach on him before running off into the night. It was a huge outrage. However, it turns out that he paid $3,500 to two guys to act it out where Smollett knew there were surveillance cameras. He apparently did it to become a more sympathetic figure, so he could receive a larger salary from his TV show "Empire". Go to youtube and watch comedian Dave Chappell sum it up.

I th9nk I've seen that Chappell sketch...doesn't he call him juicy?
 
As with everything nowadays - an allegation is seen in some parts as conclusive proof of a crime being committed. Never mind any actual facts, it just seems to be guilty until proven otherwise.

People have lost their livelihoods after just being accused of something without any real proof.

I'm sure given the amount of CCTV, first hand witnesses and mobile phone footage that the truth will come out and until then there's nothing really to be said.

I just hope that whatever is proven, the appropriate action is taken.
 
I have never understood that particular argument. If someone accuses you of being a racist and you say that you have BAME friends etc, apparently that makes you even more racist because that's what racists say.

That's why I try and avoid saying it. It's a bit like the witches ducking stool.

It’s just desperation, when all else fails, let’s chuck around racist accusations.
The irony of the story is the friend in question has been a friend for many years, the reason we became friends was because I offered him help when he was getting racially abused back in the day when it was rife.

As you can imagine, I really like being called Racist.
 
Oh look and here’s a report that claims he made the allegations. It’s funny that you only want to believe a report that said allegations were made on his behalf.
You seem desperate for us to be found guilty, is it so you can brag to your friends that you follow a racist club, wear it as some sort of badge of honour?
You’re not wrong when you say “absolutely embarrassing”.



You quoted harryhotspur as your source lol

There were also nunerous people on twitter talking about it and even a video a fan put up but 'proven liar' of course

The fact you think if one idiot was found guilty wed be a 'racist club' shows youre tribalistic, narrow minded mentality. All clubs have racists, it would change nothing about spurs were this proven...its happened at every single football ground in the country, preciously much more, now thabkfully less

Can anyone even point out where i said it definitely happened? The ammount of plain lying and strawmaning on this thread is shocking
 
You quoted harryhotspur as your source lol

There were also nunerous people on twitter talking about it and even a video a fan put up but 'proven liar' of course

The fact you think if one idiot was found guilty wed be a 'racist club' shows youre tribalistic, narrow minded mentality. All clubs have racists, it would change nothing about spurs were this proven...its happened at every single football ground in the country, preciously much more, now thabkfully less

Can anyone even point out where i said it definitely happened? The ammount of plain lying and strawmaning on this thread is shocking
Please link to these people and this video
 
Do people realise how offensive it is to be labelled racist individually or collectively and to do so without any proof is fucking shameful. Surely clubs are telling there players that before making such a serious allegation as racism that they are 100% sure what they heard or saw with confirmation from other players/officials on the pitch.
 
You quoted harryhotspur as your source lol

There were also nunerous people on twitter talking about it and even a video a fan put up but 'proven liar' of course

The fact you think if one idiot was found guilty wed be a 'racist club' shows youre tribalistic, narrow minded mentality. All clubs have racists, it would change nothing about spurs were this proven...its happened at every single football ground in the country, preciously much more, now thabkfully less

Can anyone even point out where i said it definitely happened? The ammount of plain lying and strawmaning on this thread is shocking


You still desperate for us to be a well known racist club? Keep fighting the good fight superman, you never no, you may get your wish one day..

I see the all night drinking session hasn’t worn off yet.
 
Do people realise how offensive it is to be labelled racist individually or collectively and to do so without any proof is fucking shameful. Surely clubs are telling there players that before making such a serious allegation as racism that they are 100% sure what they heard or saw with confirmation from other players/officials on the pitch.

I’m amazed at how many people are twisting the facts so they can be part of a racist club.
If we have fans that are guilty then we condemn them and watch appropriate action taken but to condemn fans without any evidence what so ever beggars belief.
There’s even fans from other clubs saying without evidence we have nothing to be ashamed of which says so much about our own fans that want to ignore that fact.
 
Ashley Cole said the FA should think of a points deduction for any club guilty of racial abuse.


So deduct 6 points from Chelsea!
So the problem with that is that someone could decide to buy a scarf for an opposing team, get a ticket in the opposition end and then make racist remarks and that team get a 6 point deduction which punishes all the players and innocent fans of that club. The present system works with anyone getting caught being punished through the courts as the Manchester supporter caught a few weeks ago.
 
So the problem with that is that someone could decide to buy a scarf for an opposing team, get a ticket in the opposition end and then make racist remarks and that team get a 6 point deduction which punishes all the players and innocent fans of that club. The present system works with anyone getting caught being punished through the courts as the Manchester supporter caught a few weeks ago.
Sounds like an easy way to make sure spurs get top 4 :allitongue:
 
I’m amazed at how many people are twisting the facts so they can be part of a racist club.
If we have fans that are guilty then we condemn them and watch appropriate action taken but to condemn fans without any evidence what so ever beggars belief.
There’s even fans from other clubs saying without evidence we have nothing to be ashamed of which says so much about our own fans that want to ignore that fact.


I get it now. You feel if we had one/ a few idiots who were racist wed be a "racist club"..by your logic every single club in england is a racist club. Or are you gonna deny its happened everywhere numerous times?

I rememeber thousands of fans singing Adebayors mother washes Elephants whixh is much wprse than this as it was many many fans not 1/2 idiots....so to you we must already be or at least were a "racist club"

Stop thinking the actions of a few tell you anything about a club as a whole, it doesnt
 
Hold your head up high South stand Billy in standing upto the onslaught of so far false accusations against our club from 4 0r 5 newly joined members of TFC
 
I still dont understand how he heard an individual. I was in that general area of the ground when it allegedly happened. There was so much Booing going on that I couldn't hear the fella behind me, let alone across the side of a pitch to the first row of fans. It was very loud and aggressive. What I don't think helped was the twats chucking stuff on the pitch. There was the cup of coffee, a lighter and a couple of other items for sure... What are these idiots thinking when they do that. Hopefully, they will all be picked up on CCTV and banned.

My feeling is, it was the Yids chant that was picked out. There was certainly no monkey chants, cos if there was hundreds of witnesses would have heard it. Unless it is a mass cover up ofcourse. There must have been 20 to 30 Stewards in that corner as well dotted around. I guess they are all covering it up as well.
 
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