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Transfers January 2020 transfer thread
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Is he actually any good ? Hear his name every summer linked with prem clubs
I think we bid something in the region of €45m, with an additional €20m in add-ons. But we would have had to do mad shit like win the CL and the PL to activate those add-ons. Sporting were not impressed.
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Published: 13:08, 5 September 2019
Tottenham's Bruno Fernandes bid rejected due to "difficult' clauses", says Sporting president | Squawka
Sporting Lisbon president Frederico Varandas has revealed why the club turned down Tottenham's offer for Bruno Fernandes last month.www.squawka.com
Sporting Lisbon have revealed that Tottenham Hotspur were the only club to make a serious offer for Bruno Fernandes in the summer, but the structure of the bid made it “difficult” to accept.
Fernandes ended up staying at Sporting despite being heavily linked with Spurs, Manchester United and Real Madrid throughout the summer.
Why did Sporting reject Spurs’ bid? Five things to know…
- Sporting president Frederico Varandas has revealed the details of Tottenham’s Bruno Fernandes bid.
- Spurs reportedly offered €45m plus €20m in bonus clauses.
- Those bonuses relied on Tottenham winning the Premier League and the Champions League.
- Varandas says the clauses made the offer “difficult” to accept.
- Sporting will now discuss a new contract with Fernandes.
Speaking to Sporting’s official website, club president Frederico Varandas has now claimed Sporting were prepared to sell Fernandes in the summer amid suggestions it was “impossible” to keep him.
But Varandas has revealed the Portuguese giants simply didn’t receive any suitable offers for the 24-year-old, with Tottenham attempting to include clauses relating to winning the Premier League and the Champions League.
“We prepared for his sale by putting a fair price on his worth, and we had bids. Tottenham’s was 45 million euros plus 20 million in bonuses – winning the Premier League and the Champions League. Finding these goals difficult, I understood not to accept.
“The day I turned down the Tottenham proposal, I came to the Academy and talked to him, told him why I declined and why he would stay here until the end of the market and he understood perfectly. In addition, he also realised that the value they gave to Sporting was not fair.”
No cunt outbid us though
I was being daft. Only seen him play a couple of times. Certainly fits the mould of a busy, tenacious DM that will hound the ball back but not sure what his distribution is like.
I imagine, with the paucity of our midfield options that we will need someone that can take the ball out and genuinely link up our play.
Never pushed on from his promising Schalke days.
Would be hideously underwhelming.
According to a chum of mine who has a keen eye for a player, he is atrocious with the ball at his feet.
Does that mean they should be happy with any old bid at all?
Buendia only cost Norwich £1.35m the summer before last. Can you fucking believe that? I would get down on my hands and knees for him.
If we actually wanted to sign him, but didn't do so in time for the Liverpool match (sending him out on a kamikaze mission) I'd never forgive Levy.We need sign Traore. For no other reason than he's built like a brick shithouse and I reckon he could cause some damage to some West Ham/Woolwich/Chav knees.
It's about time we started signing players based on what they look like, not their 'footballing ability' because it clearly doesn't fucking work!
Compared to Moura though....I'd be reasonably whelmed. Same Gotze who's on a free soon. Imagine watching an attacker who's first touch isn't like a game of high speed pin the tail on the donkey.
It's great their chairman going all public Wirth our insulting offer, but it was a better offer than the rest of footballdom was prepared to make is all I'm saying. I didn't particularly want him - I didn't know loads about him, hadn't seen much of him - but think 45m plus add ons seemed more than fair for a player they paid about 7m for.
This is a point I've made several times, we need a footballing 6 more than just a blunt DM, especially if we are going to keep playing CM2's. This is why people like Barrios don't really impress me all that much. When you don't have the ball, he's a beast, but his football and passing ability is Dier level. But to be fair, players great without the ball, and good on it are not ten a penny.
I pointed this out about the Norwich game, but just by playing actual footballers in midfield we actually recorded the lowest X/G against us all season - second half particularly when we had Lo Celso dropping in as well, Norwich didn't have a single shot in 45 minutes.
I don't think you can play a midfield lacking some kind of bite in many games, even Guardiola likes a 6 in there, but there was a lesson in that Norwich game somewhere - actually being able to keep and dominate the ball - under pressure - is almost certainly a better philosophy than having big unit donkeys in there who treat the ball like it's a fucking live grenade with the pin pulled out, hide from it, turning us into a long ball team, and putting us under pressure, pressure which we seem ill equipped to deal with.
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If we switched to a 433 and had two footballers like Ndombele and Lo Celso either side as the 8's, we could probably get away with a more limited 6, but ideally, you still want one that can play some football.
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From what I have seen, a lot better than Dier.
We need a significant lift this season to guarantee top 4. If Kane is indeed out until March; a striker will be a priority in this window.
For me, a deal for Bale season should be done. Get him in to save this season and carry us through the next whilst our younger talent gets up to speed (Sess, Clarke, Parrott).
His injury record is not actually any worse than Kane's; its just played up a lot in the media.
40m fee
20m wages over 1.5 seasons (approx 300k per week)
Sell him on to China or USA for 30-40m summer 2021 and he works out not much more than Llorente cost us - and that's not taking into account the commercial revenue he would bring - I'm pretty sure those stadium sponsors would like him here.
For me, a deal for Bale season should be done. Get him in to save this season and carry us through the next whilst our younger talent gets up to speed (Sess, Clarke, Parrott).
His injury record is not actually any worse than Kane's; its just played up a lot in the media.
40m fee
20m wages over 1.5 seasons (approx 300k per week)
Sell him on to China or USA for 30-40m summer 2021 and he works out not much more than Llorente cost us - and that's not taking into account the commercial revenue he would bring - I'm pretty sure those stadium sponsors would like him here.
Agreed. The best defence is to keep possession.
Adama Traore at Wolves could be a good signing. 24 years old and only used off the bench at Wolves. Could be a beast for us and quite a few former Spurs players talking him up in the rags (Hoddle, Clemence, Bent).
Per 90 minutes, nobody in the Premier League has created more chances or completed even half the number of successful dribbles: Eden Hazard has 5.56 to Traoré’s 11.87.
Playing in a front 3 with Son and Kane, he could be the answer to getting behind defenders and getting a cross into the box. Moura is a fine dribbler; but has zero end product with his passing.
3 years left on his contract; and on 40k a week. We could double that, but it would take a wedge of cash for Wolves to let him go in Jan.
Per 90 minutes, nobody in the Premier League has created more chances or completed even half the number of successful dribbles: Eden Hazard has 5.56 to Traoré’s 11.87.
Playing in a front 3 with Son and Kane, he could be the answer to getting behind defenders and getting a cross into the box. Moura is a fine dribbler; but has zero end product with his passing.
3 years left on his contract; and on 40k a week. We could double that, but it would take a wedge of cash for Wolves to let him go in Jan.
Would take that to be fair.
Risk free. If he performs poorly or it doesn't work out? He's definitely got a career for life in Brazil.
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