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Transfers January 2020 transfer thread

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I mean, if we are patient we can get Digne for peanuts when Everton get the FFP banhammer thrown at them in less than a year.

Theo Hernandez is the one we should go for. But it would take literally clearing all of Milan's debt to get him. He's that good for them.
I must admit I do like digne. Trying to think of any other everton players we could do with. Hmmm. I will keep an eye out for Theo Hernandez. Although I am not used to good players being called theo.
 
I must admit I do like digne. Trying to think of any other everton players we could do with. Hmmm. I will keep an eye out for Theo Hernandez. Although I am not used to good players being called theo.
If he was like 5 years younger Coleman would be a good steady hand at RB.

Mina and Sanchez are a real good duo for Colombia as well. Bernard seems a tidy one as well.

As for Theo. I even think he is their top scorer this season. He's done a Bale during his last year with us and dragged them to victory kicking and screaming.
 
BTW Betis have scored their DM from Argentina so if we were holding out on GLC so they'd have the fund but didn't get fleeced then movement on that may be soon.
 
Our midfield has been complete shit and people are mad we're bringing in low-risk players during a January window in order to help fix it.

But how do you think we got into this mess in the first place. By signing sub standard 28yo midfielders - cough no names.

Yes we need midfielders, but we need good ones, and preferably ones on the upward curve of their career and potential.

Vecino isn't as bad as payers like Dier and Sissoko, but he's not the player that is or will be a top tier player either. He's also 28 and has no scope for improvement in him at all.

Sounds like another 8 that can play as a 6, maybe. But outside of being a CM, no clue.

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/135625/Show/Matías-Vecino

Article from 18 months ago, which makes him sounds a lot like Harry Winks in the 2nd paragraph:

Profile: Is Matias Vecino the solution for Chelsea's midfield?

So what’s so special about Vecino? Well, he was one of the unsung heroes of the first half of the campaign, the cool-headed passer every midfield needs. A strong presser, the Uruguayan makes a lot of tackles (almost two per game according to Whoscored), is a good runner off the ball (and into the box) and works diligently in keeping possession ticking.

Rarely the kind of player to try the through ball, the 25-year-old has a great read of the game, and is instinctively capable of finding the right pass to a man in space. He is the difference between giving it away quickly (basically every midfielder before him in a five-year span at the San Siro) and helping the team either counter or establish itself in the opposition half.

I've not seen loads of him, but seen him a few times. He played against us twice last season for a start. And we dominated them and we were shit last season. He's another one of those, not quite a 6 and not quite an 8 types that we see a lot and have been linked with a lot (like Cyprien at Nice or Soumare Lille, or Zakaria at BMG)

Someone like Brozavic (who is the lynchpin of that Inter midfield) a proper footballing 6, who I believe still has a relatively low buy out (40 m Eur) would actually makes us a vastly better team, Vecino is better than Dier or Sissoko as a CM but is not exactly going to propel us upwards, and will be valueless in two years and we've had enough problems getting rid of dead wood as it is.
 
If he was like 5 years younger Coleman would be a good steady hand at RB.

Mina and Sanchez are a real good duo for Colombia as well. Bernard seems a tidy one as well.

As for Theo. I even think he is their top scorer this season. He's done a Bale during his last year with us and dragged them to victory kicking and screaming.
Yeah I've always liked Coleman too but lots of injuries & getting on now like you say. We don't need a great full back like that Hernandez sounds like, just a dependable steady one would do for now & be an upgrade on our current ones (Particularly at RB).
I forgot about mina, looked good in the WC with Sanchez. Think I heard he has struggled a bit at Everton but sometimes the right/wrong CB partner can make a massive difference.
 
No BC what I'm saying is 1st team minutes are for those that warrant it. Tanganga warranted it (or injury serendipity or free hit) and took his chance. Then when given the next op out of position he absolutely snatched it which is something ALL of your other boys did not. Fact! And he will get another start prolly this weekend.

See there's the bit. Injury or serendipity. That's not planning or smart development.

KWP was MOTM in his first start for us. Second start he got three assists. Is that not "Taking it"? You do know how development works? When you are recommending we sign Dongs for 5m from Ligue1 you realise that's the point when they are still developing right? You know that process doesn't involve giving them one or two games and if they don't look world class in those two games they are scrapped as "not taking their chance"? No, there is a development process. Coaches don't expect them to jump from academy to world class in two games. They are given the time to "develop". The last phase of which - after ten years plus of academy coaching - is to then get appearances and then some starts and then, if that isn't a disaster, maybe a run of starts - because that's where the last leg of development happens.

You know like when we buy a player like Sissoko or Aurier and it takes them 3 years to learn how to not to shit themselves on the ball or take throw ins and whatnot. That kind of process.

And then if that development goes well, those Dong's might turn into Ndombele's that we then pay 60m for not 5m.

Onomah didn't get a single game in his natural position. How is that developing him? Giving the best chance to succeed? He got 20 minutes of proper league football, with the first team, around him in three years. That's not "a chance". Edwards got 15 minutes of LC football. While we watch a fucking plankton like Sissoko play hand grenade every week for three years. Moura the human pinball. KWP three starts a season while Aurier fucks about making Timothy Atouba look safe.

And now we are linked with a 28yo meh CM, rather than giving someone like Skipp a "chance" who by the way has also taken his chances to date pretty well.

I wouldn't mind if you were telling me world class players had been blocking the chances and development of some of these kids with decent potential, and that we are much better off without risking them, but we've spend three years watching fucking clowns out there while not just our football, but our energy and pressing all tank. If nothing else, some of these kids could have at least provided some much needed energy, whilst all least providing some rotation for the senior players to cope with Pochettino's methods.
 
I will find us a good LB even if it takes me till the beginning of next month.

I could actually believe that Bayern would sell Alaba. He's got 18 months left on current deal, so now would be a good time to sell if they aren't planning on extending the deal. Don't know what kind of wage he's on, but if an extension would see him earn £150k-£200k a week, I would cash in now. With Alphonso Davies and Lucas Hernandez as LB options Bayern are set for the future.
 
Richarlison, if he wasn't such a diving ****! Can't stand watching him anymore
He is a talent but with a questionable attitude. Would improve us but we would need PointToPatrik PointToPatrik to be right about FFP etc.

I could actually believe that Bayern would sell Alaba. He's got 18 months left on current deal, so now would be a good time to sell if they aren't planning on extending the deal. Don't know what kind of wage he's on, but if an extension would see him earn £150k-£200k a week, I would cash in now. With Alphonso Davies and Lucas Hernandez as LB options Bayern are set for the future.
Good shout. He would be a great signing. Versatile & can score free kicks too.
 
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He is a talent but with a questionable attitude. Would improve us but we would need PointToPatrik PointToPatrik to be right about FFP etc.


Good shout. He would be a great signing. Versatile & can score free kicks too.
They have to be hit by FFP. They were 10 mil off from breaching it in their latest accounts and have spent even more without selling for a lot of money since.

They are currently being investigated because their owner just used a separate company to put "dibs" on the naming rights for their new stadium....Which they do not even have permission to build yet.
 
I don’t believe you watch Serie A to the point you have seen enough of Inter Milan to form a conclusive opinion on Vecino.
Sorry I just don’t.

I love football and watch 5 or 6 PL games on a weekend.
Then there’s the CL and the odd Champo game.

I don’t believe you people watch enough random leagues to have the same insight as you do on Spurs players. Because to do that, you would have to watch them as much as you do Spurs.

I think you play computer games. It’s a bit silly pretending otherwise.

That’s why you seem to think Dele and Sessegnon are playing well, because the career graphs look good

Says the bloke that claims Eriksen's 134 goals and assists have been lucky because he has always been shit really but Sissoko and Dier are great.

Most people say Alli isn't playing well. Nobody's claiming Sessegnon is the new Marcelo either.

You just say stuff.
 
See there's the bit. Injury or serendipity. That's not planning or smart development.
No, I didn't say those were the reasons i was just putting it out there as i don't know the exact reason. Either way he took his chance while KWP is still getting up off the ground. If he's any good then he will show on loan at Palace because if he can't beat kelly out then he's shit.

When you are recommending we sign Dongs for 5m from Ligue1 you realise that's the point when they are still developing right?
The Dong doesn't need developing BC as when he was KWP's age he was starting in the PL...for a no nonsense PFM. Suck it BC!!!! See how that goes? Player has talent then player gets minutes. Tanganga will get minutes.

Coaches don't expect them to jump from academy to world class in two games.
No, but they do expect you to jump and be able to stay on your feet FFS.

And then if that development goes well, those Dong's might turn into Ndombele's that we then pay 60m for not 5m.
Actually The Dong was free and he could do a job for us now...actually he'd be our first or second best MF depending on Ndom's fitness. And I bet he would still be 1st or 2nd if this Vecino chap comes because sammyspurs sammyspurs says he's shit.

I wouldn't mind if you were telling me world class players had been blocking the chances
So what does it say tha KWP can't get in front of 'shit'? BC, Ferland Mendy went from Ligue 2 to ripping up Ligue 1 for two years to the starting RM LB. That's talent and your boy KWP will never be in that realm. He's just not that good. As a matter of fact Georgiu would give me more hope as a FB that KWP. Hopefully he puts on some muscle and get more familiar with gravity while at Palace but I don't hold out hope. He's soon to be 23.

And btw I think you should be more concerned with your Sessegnon call. It's looks like I might have been on to something. thankfully 25 is significantly less than the 40 talked about...but the 40 for Mendy is looking a hell of a better deal.
 
No, I didn't say those were the reasons i was just putting it out there as i don't know the exact reason. Either way he took his chance while KWP is still getting up off the ground. If he's any good then he will show on loan at Palace because if he can't beat kelly out then he's shit.


The Dong doesn't need developing BC as when he was KWP's age he was starting in the PL...for a no nonsense PFM. Suck it BC!!!! See how that goes? Player has talent then player gets minutes. Tanganga will get minutes.


No, but they do expect you to jump and be able to stay on your feet FFS.


Actually The Dong was free and he could do a job for us now...actually he'd be our first or second best MF depending on Ndom's fitness. And I bet he would still be 1st or 2nd if this Vecino chap comes because sammyspurs sammyspurs says he's shit.


So what does it say tha KWP can't get in front of 'shit'? BC, Ferland Mendy went from Ligue 2 to ripping up Ligue 1 for two years to the starting RM LB. That's talent and your boy KWP will never be in that realm. He's just not that good. As a matter of fact Georgiu would give me more hope as a FB that KWP. Hopefully he puts on some muscle and get more familiar with gravity while at Palace but I don't hold out hope. He's soon to be 23.

And btw I think you should be more concerned with your Sessegnon call. It's looks like I might have been on to something. thankfully 25 is significantly less than the 40 talked about...but the 40 for Mendy is looking a hell of a better deal.

Ndombele didn't go from zero to ripping it up though did he. He struggled. Got rejected by a Ligue3 and several Ligue 2 teams. And was considered to be worth about 5m (that's less than we got for Jake Livermore 15 years gaol's) about two years before we bought him.

Pretty sure there was a Toddierre on Amiens Cocks Forum saying "fuck Ndombele the fat cunt, he's been here 5 minutes and he's not world class already".

Did you watch Mendy's first 3 games for La Havre ? Was he world class ? KWP doesn't have to be better than Ferland fucking Mendy to play for us, he just needs to be able to take a fucking throw and not give a penalty away with every tackle and he'd at least have been a free alternative to the clown we've had there for the last two years.
 
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