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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread
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Vertonghen's contract ends on 30 June 2020, so wont be 'shipped out', he'll just walk away unless offered another contract. !
It's Twitter so he probs talks shit, but wouldn't be surprised if Mourinho wants the best young Portuguese centre back
Things would be interesting if they share the same agent.
He won't be.
Short term fix. It's a faustian pact. Jose was supposed to act like an electric shock to a stopped heart. Get us back into a rhythm that would stagger us over the top four line , then we would reassess. Gamble designed to keep our better players (Kane Son) from jumping ship. I don't think it will,or has worked.
His agent is Jorge Mendes company, so the answer is yes. Not forgetting that Mendes also has a tie up with Wolves owners - and half a dozen Mendes players (eg Neves) are at Wolves.
This is a good point. With a full preseason and Jose's tactics I expect these players to perform beyond what we've seen from them in the last 2-3 years. We just need to give them time, always more time.
*I am bullshitting folks. I'd get rid of almost every single one of them if I could...as I would have for the last few years.
It's just dispair, leave him alone. If you've not felt its bitter tang lately your not being honestMe neither. The genius just keeps coming......
Not as good as Ricardo Rocha was. Legend
@forzayids isn't usually someone that comes out with ITK right? I believe Vertonghen will go to Ajax on a free and Dias will be a target to replace him.
Same challenge to everyone else peddling this cobblers....
Show us where/when they have taken a any money out of the club or PLEASE for the love of all the gods stop bullshitting in the name of ramping up the misery!
Of course they'll sell at a profit... Look at the commercial growth of the club since they took over. :mourfacepalm:
Thanks mate. Spicy.
I wonder what sort of pull Nuno has over Jose for Portuguese players.
RB: Aarons
CB: Dias or Upamecano
DM: Zakaria, Partey, Neves or Hojlberg
FWD: Victor Osimhen or Jonathan David
Hope that Sessegnon or Cirkin can come good as a backup LB and we'd be set up extremely well. It really is a summer where we need to lump on some quality unless we have something up our sleeves. A pretty penny for all of that even the ones ranked lower down the list.
So 5 replacements and not extra then? gotcha.
No one's saying anything is 'like for like'. Just getting rid of those not fit for purpose (not just those that don't play and are uncontroversial as that doesn't improve us...oh look, that's what you did) and getting some proper players...pal.
You're full of surprises. Didn't see this coming at all.Maybe 1-2 more making as well but I'll hedge my thoughts on who they might be
perhaps indeed.
So no change but a new DM and hope that the backups we purchase 'will come good' and become more than what we paid for? Cool, because Mou has a long history of developing players and making them better like De Bruyne, Lukakau, Salah, and many others.
I just don't understand how this would occur if you buy backup quality in the summer. And if this is what you hope then why not identify those 'new' players now and get them into the team as soon as possible? If you buy beneath a player and that 'backup' cannot supplant the starter then you lose value and have an unhappy young player not getting any minutes/developing.
Is our current RB, RCB, LB, and DM of unquestioned starting quality of a top 4 or CL quarterfinal level/? Then why wouldn't you buy on top of them and not beneath them...pal?
Another shocker... But I'm starting to get an idea why.
Yeah, it wasn't his lack of courage that made me not want him in the first place. It was his lack of ability but hey ho. Many a really 'clued in' observer did want him. I had many a convo about this player as I wondered what folks were seeing besides goal stats because the things they said they were seeing were not the things I was seeing. Well, we got him and it doesn't look like there is any room at LW for him considering Sonny and Bergwijn. So LB it is. Thankfully it wasn't for 40M like was being reported. FFS.
That's alright since you've expressed them all so you got cover when one of them turns into reality.
Or you knowledge of world football is such that you don't know or haven't heard of any players. That's not a reason to poo-poo the idea. There are significantly more and cheaper options than the one's you've listed in the transfer thread. And just because you've heard of a player doesn't make him a 'banger'. Many of our players are shit and it wouldn't cost much to replace what they bring and not their value in some supporter's minds.
I couldn't give 2 shits about 'heavyweight signings'. I like both of GLC and Ndom as players but hated the price of both and would have preferred actual friggin scouting of no-names that get their heads down and work. You're poo-pooing the wrong guy if you think I want big names. I want competent footballers that can get around the pitch and have reliable technique.
but instead we will be lead around by the nose by Mr Mendes, our de facto DOF.
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So whilst Aarons is homegrown and under 21 the rest are all non homegrown players so with zero spaces in the squad how do we use them? ...
RB: Aarons
CB: Dias or Upamecano
DM: Zakaria, Partey, Neves or Hojlberg
FWD: Victor Osimhen or Jonathan David (20)
These are all good potential signings however only David for a season as under 21 and Aarons as homegrown could be added to the current squad, all the rest would need to replace someone.
Sure we need to buy, but we also need to get rid ....
So 5 replacements and not extra then? gotcha.
No one's saying anything is 'like for like'. Just getting rid of those not fit for purpose (not just those that don't play and are uncontroversial as that doesn't improve us...oh look, that's what you did) and getting some proper players...pal.
You're full of surprises. Didn't see this coming at all.
perhaps indeed.
So no change but a new DM and hope that the backups we purchase 'will come good' and become more than what we paid for? Cool, because Mou has a long history of developing players and making them better like De Bruyne, Lukakau, Salah, and many others.
I just don't understand how this would occur if you buy backup quality in the summer. And if this is what you hope then why not identify those 'new' players now and get them into the team as soon as possible? If you buy beneath a player and that 'backup' cannot supplant the starter then you lose value and have an unhappy young player not getting any minutes/developing.
Is our current RB, RCB, LB, and DM of unquestioned starting quality of a top 4 or CL quarterfinal level/? Then why wouldn't you buy on top of them and not beneath them...pal?
Another shocker... But I'm starting to get an idea why.
Yeah, it wasn't his lack of courage that made me not want him in the first place. It was his lack of ability but hey ho. Many a really 'clued in' observer did want him. I had many a convo about this player as I wondered what folks were seeing besides goal stats because the things they said they were seeing were not the things I was seeing. Well, we got him and it doesn't look like there is any room at LW for him considering Sonny and Bergwijn. So LB it is. Thankfully it wasn't for 40M like was being reported. FFS.
That's alright since you've expressed them all so you got cover when one of them turns into reality.
Or you knowledge of world football is such that you don't know or haven't heard of any players. That's not a reason to poo-poo the idea. There are significantly more and cheaper options than the one's you've listed in the transfer thread. And just because you've heard of a player doesn't make him a 'banger'. Many of our players are shit and it wouldn't cost much to replace what they bring and not their value in some supporter's minds.
I could give 2 shits about 'heavyweight signings'. I like both of GLC and Ndom as players but hated the price of both and would have preferred actual friggin scouting of no-names that get their heads down and work. You're poo-pooing the wrong guy if you think I want big names. I want competent footballers that can get around the pitch and have reliable technique.
but instead we will be lead around by the nose by Mr Mendes, our de facto DOF.
You're thorough I'll give you that.
Do I want better than we currently have? Obviously I do.... I only see Lloris, Alderweireld, Lo Celso, Bergwijn, Son & Kane as good enough right now but I don't mind Aurier and Davies. Rating highly and being content with are two different things.
The reason why I take the stance of 1, maybe 2 for immediate impact but perhaps 2-3 to integrate is because I think it's practical to expect from a club like us. Question Todd..... what's our transfer budget going to look like this summer? From what I can tell we need to consider the HG quotas somewhat withnour current squad so it all plays a part in my way of thinking. I also refuse to write off 19 year old kids, that ain't hedging mate that's just being open but with dubious eyes.
At the moment I don't see enough quality no, I just won't write a few I have question marks over just yet. A fair few in my eyes are done, all part and parcel of it.
As for my knowledge of what's out there? I like the look of Mukiele, Atal from what I've seen, Hakimi if he isn't wanted at Real looks fantastic, Aarons has potential but I'm concerned about his physique and Mazraoui looked pretty good at Ajax but seems for have been overtaken by Dest this season a player I haven't seen enough to pass judgement on (and I ain't sure if he's a player still trying to figure out where his best position is) Porro looked a real prospect I mentioned him last year sometime but Man City pounced so he's scratched off the list, Cucurella I haven't seen much of but I know we've been linked and Klostermann looks proper but I fancy he'll end up as Bayern. Other RB's don't spring to mind at this time of the day/ night and off the cuff but then hey, ain't a scout so knowledge can and will be limited mate.
I'd love top players, I just don't know if we can knock our money about like we'd all like to see, hence my young ones that can hopefully overtake the current guard here and there.
Yeah we certainly do need to shift a few. I lean towards KWP, Rose, Vertonghen, Foyth and Wanyma having to go, Dier will be offski if he doesn't get things sorted with his form, position, stature at the club and contract. Lamela? May as well keep him as nobody will touch him for the money we and he would want. Will one or two also get edged? I trust all are getting heavily scrutinised at the moment with each passing day by the gaffer. A very intriguing summer ahead for all sorts of reasons Bangkok.