You're beginning to sound like a primary school English teacher.......
That's what bickering with kids will do to a man.....
When you consider I'm dyslexic; it's all the more ridiculous!
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That's what bickering with kids will do to a man.....
When you consider I'm dyslexic; it's all the more ridiculous!
Surely a transfer window thread is a relevant place to discuss the pro's and con's of the transfer budget our current owners employ?If you want to go bitch at the current owners than go do it in one of the 10 other threadsTottenham Massive has setup in this forum to complain about it.
Or are you just another
Airfixx
who cant handle opinions that differ from your own?Grow some balls, man. Accept the forum for what it is
I applaud your principles but let's not forget we are living in a Capitalist Society on steroids. Any which way you look it's about money. The USA for instance is, imo, run by the corporations for the benefit of big business and politicians, not necessarily in that order. That is the direction globally and I can't see it changing .
In order to compete in any sector, principles are going to be an early casualty. Clearly the only way we can flourish in this economic climate is by dropping away from the moral high ground. The only real question is do we accept that it doesn't matter where the money comes from because we are putting it to good use or do we accept middle table status and be true to ourselves. I'm really not sure where I stand on this
I only know that this is the present situation and it's really sad.
By that logic every thread would become the same screed against the owners because, technically, they are involved with everything at the club. Every thread doesn't need to become a referendum on ownership and there doesn't need to be pages and pages and pages of the same general complaint and counterpoint. It's tedious and doesn't bring a better level of discourse to the forum.Surely a transfer window thread is a relevant place to discuss the pro's and con's of the transfer budget our current owners employ?
Or are you just another
Grow some balls, man. Accept the forum for what it.
If you read back through the thread you'll find the latest ding dong resulted from me being goaded and tagged with a yes or no question. I simply answered and the subsequent debate developed.
And you'll also find that for every post in this thread criticising Levy, there's a counter post supporting him.
So it really does work both ways.
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Surely a transfer window thread is a relevant place to discuss the pro's and con's of the transfer budget our current owners employ?
Or are you just another
Grow some balls, man. Accept the forum for what it.
I don't know if you've noticed people regularly debate opposing opinions.... It's represents much of what makes this place tick.
Meanwhile, you may not understand this, but the following:
"You're Levy's Son"..... "Airfixx knows nothing about football"..... and "Oooh, you're hard" as a response to a perfectly un-confrontational expression of an opinion that was in fact asked for...
.....These are not opinions worthy of respect; they're just today's latest examples of the infantile level of discourse that you and a couple of clowns have thrown at me today.
Pathetically, enough after years of back and forth; you (and the couple of dick heads like you) still fail to get even a simple grasp of what my outlook is. Being as charitable as I can, I can only conclude that you're willfully ignorant and extremely immature... You'd rather engage in juvenile piss-taking of some false notion of my outlook rather than have any semblance of constructive debate. So, in fact no; it's YOU that repeatedly illustrate you cannot "handle" opinions that differ from your own.
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Penalties/1-0 whatever, fact remains City were the only half decent team they played en route to winning 2 cups. You can’t try and say there was no luck involved there.
Yeah, but you’re conveniently leaving out the fact that that United team that finished second also included the likes of Lindelof, Matic, Pogba, Mkhitarian, Sanchez and Lukaku, all players Mourinho spent hundreds of millions on to never even come close to winning anything of substance. They finished 20 points behind City that season and were dumped out of the Champions League by fucking Sevilla in a similar fashion to how we were dumped out by Leipzig. I guarantee you were laughing at how pathetic United were at the time, why are you coming up with excuses for him now just because he manages us?
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I agree it works both ways and it's not one side or the other who is at fault. It was just making my eyes bleed when 4/5 pages I hadn't read yet were filled with stuff we've either debated with no "right" answer, or things that have been refuted one way or another (specifically everything related to Chelsea: spending this summer vs. last summer vs. the last 20 years, transfer bans, player sales, etc..).
I'd rather argue about why X player sucks, or why Y player is great because he's going to team Z in the transfer thread than the self-sustaining model of club management we've all grown to know and detest. At least that is new territory.
That's a reasonable post
Spaniel
- I'd only counter with one aspect of it..."The only real question is do we accept that it doesn't matter where the money comes from because we are putting it to good use or do we accept middle table status and be true to ourselves."
This is kinda moot as a) the money you speak of isn't currently in the offing and b) we are not doomed to be mid-table.... One bad current season aside we've been a top 5 (or better) side in 9 of the last 10 seasons (+ 6th in 13/14).
Our much malligned owners have in fact help elevate us from being the thing that you fear.
A double swoop for Jimenez and Neves with Meunier on a free would be a pretty rowdy turn of events wouldn’t it
Who are you talking about. Bill?
I'll drive the bus. ...
You NEVER "simply answer".... You evade, ignore or manipulate....
Your victim act doesn't wash. Your primary behaviour here is goading.
You've been unnecessarily tagging me and shit-stirring all day for fucks sake.
"Penalties/1-0 whatever" is not an argument.
Important to notice that not all the players you mentioned were "Mourinho signings" - Paul Pogba, the most expensive of the lot, clearly wasn´t. Two more observations:
1- It tells you everything you need to know about that United side that, with all the players you mentioned, Valencia, Smalling, Jones and Ahsley Young were still first team players.
2 - In their first (almost) complete season without Mourinho, with most of the players you mentioned plus Maguire, Bissaka, James and Bruno Fernandes, they are currently in 5th place - 37 points behind the leader.
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According to those less-than-reliable purveyors of fine clickbait, Don Balón, Real Madrid are in pole position, Zidane's given the operation the green light.
In other made-up Don Balón tittle-tattle, Mourinho has been in touch with his old friend (it says here) Florentino Pérez to ask him for a favour, namely the transfer of underwhelming right winger Lucas Vázquez and the decent but slightly ageing centre back Nacho Fernández (30)
I just went from six to midnight.
Patson Daka, the bloke in the This is Why Everyone Want To Sign Patson Daka video in the post.
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Paul Pogba was one of, if not THE most wanted midfielder in Europe when United signed him. Are you really gonna sit there and try and argue Mourinho wouldn’t have wanted him? Every other signing that was made during his reign were players he personally wanted. They had all the hall marks of classic Mourinho signings and he regularly spoke about how he gave Woodward a list and he went out and got them. You speak about how his side still contained players like Young, Smalling etc. Do you really think that if Mourinho had turned around to Woodward and said “Ed I need a new right back” he would have refused, considering he paid out 40 million for a 29 year old Matic at Mourinhos request?
The reason United are still in a heap now is because they have a glorified PE teacher so out of his depth he makes Tim Sherwood look competent managing them.
Give your head a wobble mate and stop making excuses for the guy just because he’s our manager.
I was having a good look at Neves recently, and I think Winks is probably better than him.