You don't count something that isn't certain yet, sacking him will cost certain money but keeping him doesn't provide any certain number
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Manager Jose Mourinho
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I am saying that our defense isn't worse than other teams that are doing better than us.
If Jose is the great, 15 million pound manager he should be able to get similar results that Klopp is getting out of MFers and championship level CB's, he should be able to match Moyes with his group of crap.
And that ignores the fact we also have Kane and Son upfront which blows anything most teams outside of Liverpool and City out of the water.
Probably.
We miss Lo Celso. Lucas is brainless, Bergwijn is struggling and Son is off form.
I just think people have this idea a manager change is going to see us bounce up towards peak Poch years. I don’t think it will.
We're well short of those years unfortunately but that doesn't mean there isn't room for significant improvement on what we've seen with what we've got.
Some of the points we've thrown away this season through an overly defensive approach makes me believe a more positive manager would have us in a much better position.
We're fortunate the top teams haven't pulled away and that we're still in with a shout, ordinarily we'd be a mile off. Although that's doubled-edged sword as the Mourinho fans get to say we're only 'X points off top 4' as though we're fighting to be there
Agree with a lot of what you are saying but I think our starting 11 are equal to or better than Utd and Chelsea. The problem we have is a board who do not have a clue and a manager who was never as good as he thinks he is.
Jose was a great coach, I wouldn't put him down like that. The work he did with Porto and Inter was nothing short of incredible. The game has moved on in the last ten years, as it always will, and he hasn't kept up with it.
Take out Fabinho, Henderson and Keita, and Liverpool still have Thiago, Wijnaldum, Milner and even AOC.
We simply dont have that level of depth. With the slightest absence due to GLC we are looking at Sissoko, Winks, Lamela and Moura
None of those guys are good replacements for Fabinho though.
Yes they are not as badly hurt but taking out your starting 3 MFers still hurts the team even with great depth.
Best post, the ones before that are a whinging car crash. Sack him or not we have to buy loads or players and that is absolutely not going to happen. We simply have too much dross to get rid of to buy, which won’t happen and so it’s off to the bargain basement you go it is for us, again. You need star-power, nous and connections to get in more PEH’s and Reggies. This is why Levy won’t sack Mourinho.
I hated Jose at Chelsea, because he was simply good. Disliked him at Madrid, warmed to him at Inter, and was just plain envious when he won again at Chelsea. What I liked more then was the fact he rebuilt them into a title winning squad again and they won again after he left. Hate his football or not, he knows a player. That will come when you’ve spent all your life in football.
I suspect Levy is playing a good game here, use the Covid opportunity to restock on grade quality players, and there is no better man to assist you in a rebuild than Jose Mourinho.
That is my reason for optimism. He builds the squad to my liking and you can have his head.
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he as to retire if we finish below west ham
jose style is perfect for son. son cant keep the ball well enough to play in anything but a counter attacking side if you want the best from him.
son shouldnt even start the games against sides that look to sit deep and counter us as hes useless in them games. he should be coming off the bench if we take the lead when they have to come out and he can finish them off.
so does Klopp, he is below david moyes too if you don't know , with a squad of a champion nothing less
He was given time and money , get a complete change of his starting eleven before he could actually win but even then it doesn't bring them continues success.
Jose took a year out, to get a new philosophy which he is implementing successfully in my opinion
My interpretation of the new philosophy, is to play the same boring negative football , but in a much less successful way. In which case all is going fantastically well.
We've had a few days now and just let things settle so the post doesn't seem overly emotional. I've been snowed in for three days so I went back and found the games from the beginning of the season and watched a few of them .hem. .
Now, up until West Ham we were allowed to be creative and it really felt like Jose trusted the players to make the right decisions. But knowing Jose, I bet what happened was that he probably considers a single goal as a huge problem. It doesn't matter how many we score, Jose starts with a solid defence and we are anything but. He probably has torn the players a new one instead of focussing on the positives of attacking plays.
Makes sense if you think about what he's done with Dele and his "laziness" is probably a lack of willingness to track back and play box to box, which I thought is what we bought Tanguy for.
Regardless at this point I think Jose needs to accept that were leaky at the back. Our lack of activity in the transfer market and having clear secondary, young, players to replace aging veterans is biting us in the ass. In reality we never replaced Trips, Rose or Jan and we can see it happening now with Toby.
Frankly, I think we should just start bombing forward and going back to 'Arry's "Well as long as we score more than them". Every pundit this season is riding the shit out of Leeds and Bielsa's attacking football dick, even when we shit kicked them 3-0. Let's just play like that. What else can go wrong at this point.
Now, up until West Ham we were allowed to be creative and it really felt like Jose trusted the players to make the right decisions. But knowing Jose, I bet what happened was that he probably considers a single goal as a huge problem. It doesn't matter how many we score, Jose starts with a solid defence and we are anything but. He probably has torn the players a new one instead of focussing on the positives of attacking plays.
Makes sense if you think about what he's done with Dele and his "laziness" is probably a lack of willingness to track back and play box to box, which I thought is what we bought Tanguy for.
Regardless at this point I think Jose needs to accept that were leaky at the back. Our lack of activity in the transfer market and having clear secondary, young, players to replace aging veterans is biting us in the ass. In reality we never replaced Trips, Rose or Jan and we can see it happening now with Toby.
Frankly, I think we should just start bombing forward and going back to 'Arry's "Well as long as we score more than them". Every pundit this season is riding the shit out of Leeds and Bielsa's attacking football dick, even when we shit kicked them 3-0. Let's just play like that. What else can go wrong at this point.
anyone here who thought changing jose would automatically makes us competitive are idiots , he must stay and given time , we are a sick club who has been trophyless for more than decade already. to be cured from a flu , you have to get a fever, things has to get worse first before it gets better, just bare with it
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Which is why they are not in contention for the league title and look quite mortal
Finishing behind west ham is a sackable offense.
Shame that doesn’t count for the players too
Shame that doesn’t count for the players too