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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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If Utd get him, Varane and say Grealish, then he might have a chance of a PL title and that would still be a big achievement vs rolling up at City

They would also need a new manager. Ole has shown nothing to indicate he can lead a team to a PL title.

And adding those players they are still a weaker team than City, and a healthy Liverpool. so they will need their manager to improve them not just not fuck it up like Ole currently does.
 
Firstly, this isn't too bad, 5 goal contributes against those 5 are probably better than most other forwards.
But I think the biggest issue in these games is we don't have any control of play, and aren't even attempting attacking moves.
If Kane was missing chances/ mucking up key passes in the final third, then you could blame him for these stats. Maybe I'm making excuses, but I just don't think it's his fault at all.
I would agree with that but there is a HUGE discrepancy between his performance against mid/bottom table team vs the top 6. His goal contribution is more than 2x against teams outside of the top 6.

Tactically, we seem to have the same lingering issues against almost every PL team we've faced regardless of where they stood in the tables. I can only think of a few matches where I thought that we really dominated possession and created a lot of chances. I don't think Kane has had substantially more chances against mid/bottom level teams.
 
When was the last time we were even remotely close to being relegated?

We have been much closer to winning the league.
I’m looking forward - to our Covid budget, our form under the cancerous growth of a manager..... this flea coupled with Levy’s budget could see us get involved next season. He’s the worst manager bar Santini we’ve had, hopelessly out of depth
 
They would also need a new manager. Ole has shown nothing to indicate he can lead a team to a PL title.

And adding those players they are still a weaker team than City, and a healthy Liverpool. so they will need their manager to improve them not just not fuck it up like Ole currently does.
I mean, he's 2nd in the league...
I wish Jose hadn't improved us as much as ole hasn't improved them!🤔

I sometimes think you don't know what you're talking about.
 
I’m looking forward - to our Covid budget, our form under the cancerous growth of a manager..... this flea coupled with Levy’s budget could see us get involved next season. He’s the worst manager bar Santini we’ve had, hopelessly out of depth

No it couldn't

Even if you believe your ridiculous idea that covid has hurt us more than others, we still are nowhere close to relegation, not even remotely close.

We could lose Kane and Son and not replace them and we still wouldn't be relegated.
 
I said more likely to be relegated than challenge for the PL

That isn't true though. We have a zero chance to be relegated and although challenge for the PL might be close to zero it is higher than zero.

Anyways it isn't a big deal as I am sure it was hyperbole more than anything, but we are not going to be close to relegation or even a threat of relegation.
 
That isn't true though. We have a zero chance to be relegated and although challenge for the PL might be close to zero it is higher than zero.

Anyways it isn't a big deal as I am sure it was hyperbole more than anything, but we are not going to be close to relegation or even a threat of relegation.
Ok, let’s hope you aren’t involved in trying to persuade Kane to stay with such lofty, ambitious targets
 
Ok, let’s hope you aren’t involved in trying to persuade Kane to stay with such lofty, ambitious targets

I don't think it matters who is in charge of persuading Kane to stay he can see things with his own eyes and will make his own decision.

Unless he is getting promises on transfer spending I don't think anyone is going to persuade him of anything.
 
there is a HUGE discrepancy between his performance against mid/bottom table team vs the top 6. His goal contribution is more than 2x against teams outside of the top 6.

Kane has scored most his goals against Leicester, West Ham & Woolwich.

But I suppose you are twice as likely to scored double the amount of goals against teams that concede twice as many anyway right..

Not sure what the point is where when people quote things like this. I would expect to find a similar trend with most of footballs great goal scorers.
 
Kane's a great striker, among the best, but we made it to the CL final and had a great run overall with Llorente who played a pivotal role in some big big matches. Some can't ignore the fact that Kane does struggle and goes absent in big matches which is a fair criticism. Nothing wrong with pointing this out.
Kane also gets double-marked frequently and when Son is out injured or we don't have another player on a good run of form, we struggle to get much going when they double-mark him and hack him down constantly.

Unlike others, I don't think that reflects negatively on Kane. It reflects negatively on our squad and the depth of players we have available that very frequently we have only a single note to play, which is "punt the ball to Harry Kane and pray for the best".

Kane does donkey work for this team; frequently being the one to clear the ball while defending set-pieces. That really shouldn't be something he's asked to do reliably, but that's how poorly coached and managed our squad is, and/or the poor and haphazard talent we are frequently forced to draw upon that this has to be a regular feature of Kane's game-time.
 
MC are out on their own at present and the rest are much of a muchness. Chances of winning a trophy with MC is high but with the others he will be taking a chance. When did MU last win the league? Will Liverpool get back to last season's form? He has stated that he will not make a decision until after the Euros by which time he will know who Spurs will have as Manager next season and hopefully have a few new players.
Join anyone but MC and it could be out of the frying pan into the fire. With a new Manager there is no reason why Spurs with Kane could not end up winning a trophy and MU could well end up with nothing again. If he goes abroad that is all the Premiership goal scoring records gone. Will he really be happy to say I won a foreign trophy and there are not a lot of clubs in the running for winning CL.
Then he has to consider does his wife with young children want to leave her family and friends and live in Manchester or abroad. Bale might have won lots of trophies but was he really happy there as his Spanish speaking was said to be poor?
There are a lot more considerations than just leaving Spurs because we have had a bad season.
I very much hope he stays and Levy refuses to sell.
 
I hope he stays but he is too good to waste his time with this team

can't see Kane getting the EPL record for goals, needs 100 goals @25 a season that's another 4 years
only see City, United, Chelsea as teams for him in EPL (other than us of course)
can't see him at PSG with the way they play
can see him going to Real Madrid, Barca, but looking at Munich last night think he would fit in there ok
 
XG is far more specific than number of shots vs goals.
One tells exactly what is happening.
One is mind boggling nonsense.
Modern day football's problem is that it's basically a simple game being made complicated to interest the American statistical market and the FM generation.

Bottom line is this, the team that scores the most goals wins. And no amount of hipster shite like "xG", "Double Pivots" or "Recoveries" change that.

Believe me, the Crazy Gang would still win matches in todays world.
 
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