Who will buy all those turds - especially with the prices Levy would demand?
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Transfers Summer 2021 - Transfer Thread
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Sanchez could probably be appealing for them. He and Mina have good chemistry for the Colombian national team.
Straight swap with Michael Keane and I would be happy tbf.
Fine! We'll take Holgate then.
He's been mediocre. Can they just pay £20-25m cash?
Whole thread should be suspended until we have a manager, if we believe he will have a say on potential signing a.
If not we go back to the same old sh!t of not my player blah blah blah.
If not we go back to the same old sh!t of not my player blah blah blah.
Realistic prices:
Sissoko - £3m (Do you know how much £1m is? Can't believe someone would pay that)
Aurier - £15m
Sanchez - £15m
Doherty - £0m
Dele - loan and sell next year
Winks - loan and sell next year
I'm fine keeping Davies and Dier around as squad players next season but the above group cannot be anywhere near the first team.
We won't get much for that sorry group and maybe £40m is being too ambitious. Lets hope some dumb Turkish, Chinese or French clubs want to waste some money.
Dele and Winks should be loaned to see if they can boost their transfer fees for a sale next summer. It's a risk but worth doing imo.
Sissoko - £3m (Do you know how much £1m is? Can't believe someone would pay that)
Aurier - £15m
Sanchez - £15m
Doherty - £0m
Dele - loan and sell next year
Winks - loan and sell next year
I'm fine keeping Davies and Dier around as squad players next season but the above group cannot be anywhere near the first team.
We won't get much for that sorry group and maybe £40m is being too ambitious. Lets hope some dumb Turkish, Chinese or French clubs want to waste some money.
Dele and Winks should be loaned to see if they can boost their transfer fees for a sale next summer. It's a risk but worth doing imo.
We need a whole new football setup
I think we are basically back to when Poch came in in terms of the squad.
A group of over the hill losers picking up a pay check that don't give a fuck about Spurs.
We have to embark on a new project but the fact that the infrastructure side is already complete should mean we get there quicker because we can be 100% focused on squad upgrades now.
We will also probably have to make some big sales to fund it. At this point I've accepted Kane and Son will be gone if not this summer then next and I don't even care.
We need a completely fresh start and new direction.
It's hard to envision since we have become so attached to some in this group over the last 5 years but Spurs will go on without them. We have to be ruthless.
A group of over the hill losers picking up a pay check that don't give a fuck about Spurs.
We have to embark on a new project but the fact that the infrastructure side is already complete should mean we get there quicker because we can be 100% focused on squad upgrades now.
We will also probably have to make some big sales to fund it. At this point I've accepted Kane and Son will be gone if not this summer then next and I don't even care.
We need a completely fresh start and new direction.
It's hard to envision since we have become so attached to some in this group over the last 5 years but Spurs will go on without them. We have to be ruthless.
Agreed. We need to accept that this generation is done. They need to be shifted out over the next 2-3 windows and replaced with younger, hungrier players.
The question is if the backroom are willing to commit or still think that the "golden generation" can actually become golden.
Who’s going to buy all our shit players. They’re on huge wages. Sissoko is on a stupid amount. Nobody is going to take the dumb cunt off our hands because of that (and seeing him play) unless we help out and levy isn’t going to do that.
Absolute non negotiable outs should be Sanchez, Aurier, Sissoko, Winks & Lamela. I dont care how we do it, they just need to go. We then have loan players like Gazzaniga, Foyth and Carter Vickers that can leave. Rose out of contract and Vinicius and probably Bale back to their clubs. Thats 11 and the sad thing is i could easily add another 3 or 4 to that list.
Hoddle: Spurs need summer rebuild - but they won’t spend the money
Glenn Hoddle says Tottenham need a total overhaul of the squad to return to challenging for the trophies but believes the club will not spend the money this summer in the wake of the Covid pandemic.
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Glenn Hoddle says Tottenham need a total overhaul of the squad to return to challenging for the trophies but believes the club will not spend the money this summer in the wake of the Covid pandemic.
Spurs yesterday went down 1-0 to Manchester City in the Carabao Cup at Wembley in a fourth consecutive final defeat, extending their frustrating 13-year wait for silverware.
Afterwards, interim head coach Ryan Mason admitted the club are “four or five years” behind City, who clinched a record-equalling fourth consecutive League Cup thanks to Aymeric Laporte’s 82nd-minute header.
Spurs are set to appoint a permanent successor to Jose Mourinho at the end of the season, but Hoddle believes the squad is packed with “average” players and “just not good enough” for the Champions League, regardless of who is in the dugout.
Asked what Spurs need to do to return to challenging for silverware, Hoddle told Standard Sport: “I think they need a real revamp, a rebuild in every department of the pitch. And it does not matter who the manager is, they are going to need to spend money.
“They have got a fabulous stadium and training ground, but have they got the intent after a pandemic and losing so much? I cannot see it.
“There has got to be a reconstruction of the squad. I hear ‘Tottenham have a great squad’, but I do not get that. They have got a couple of great players, but the squad is nowhere near deep enough and there are players there who are just not good enough if you want to get into the Champions League.
“No disrespect, there are players there who are average Premier League players. There is an age problem at the back in the next season or two, the midfield needs some sort of spark and they have to hold on to Harry Kane and Heung-min Son.”
Spurs chairman Daniel Levy has forecast an “irrecoverable loss” of £150million due to the absence of crowds this season, while they have more debt than any other club in Europe after completing their £1.2billion stadium.
“Whether they are going to spend the money to do that, I do not think they will,” added Hoddle, a former Spurs player and Levy’s first managerial appointment. “Tottenham are at a bit of a crossroads now.
“I do not think Jose should have been sacked. Every manager needs time and it is not the Spurs squad that people think.
“People talk about how poorly Jose did at Manchester United and I laugh because he came runners-up in the Premier League and won two trophies. Now any Spurs fan would have settled for that when he arrived.”
Spot on from Glen.Hoddle: Spurs need summer rebuild - but they won’t spend the money
Glenn Hoddle says Tottenham need a total overhaul of the squad to return to challenging for the trophies but believes the club will not spend the money this summer in the wake of the Covid pandemic.
Glenn Hoddle says Tottenham need a total overhaul of the squad to return to challenging for the trophies but believes the club will not spend the money this summer in the wake of the Covid pandemic.
Spurs yesterday went down 1-0 to Manchester City in the Carabao Cup at Wembley in a fourth consecutive final defeat, extending their frustrating 13-year wait for silverware.
Afterwards, interim head coach Ryan Mason admitted the club are “four or five years” behind City, who clinched a record-equalling fourth consecutive League Cup thanks to Aymeric Laporte’s 82nd-minute header.
Spurs are set to appoint a permanent successor to Jose Mourinho at the end of the season, but Hoddle believes the squad is packed with “average” players and “just not good enough” for the Champions League, regardless of who is in the dugout.
Asked what Spurs need to do to return to challenging for silverware, Hoddle told Standard Sport: “I think they need a real revamp, a rebuild in every department of the pitch. And it does not matter who the manager is, they are going to need to spend money.
“They have got a fabulous stadium and training ground, but have they got the intent after a pandemic and losing so much? I cannot see it.
“There has got to be a reconstruction of the squad. I hear ‘Tottenham have a great squad’, but I do not get that. They have got a couple of great players, but the squad is nowhere near deep enough and there are players there who are just not good enough if you want to get into the Champions League.
“No disrespect, there are players there who are average Premier League players. There is an age problem at the back in the next season or two, the midfield needs some sort of spark and they have to hold on to Harry Kane and Heung-min Son.”
Spurs chairman Daniel Levy has forecast an “irrecoverable loss” of £150million due to the absence of crowds this season, while they have more debt than any other club in Europe after completing their £1.2billion stadium.
“Whether they are going to spend the money to do that, I do not think they will,” added Hoddle, a former Spurs player and Levy’s first managerial appointment. “Tottenham are at a bit of a crossroads now.
“I do not think Jose should have been sacked. Every manager needs time and it is not the Spurs squad that people think.
“People talk about how poorly Jose did at Manchester United and I laugh because he came runners-up in the Premier League and won two trophies. Now any Spurs fan would have settled for that when he arrived.”
When I saw Harry Winks starting and no Ndombele. Then Sissoko come on I honestly felt like it was the nail in the coffin I needed mentally to kick on and look to the future.
Poch, champs final, winks and sissoko. Sissoko does something that leads to a goal in another cup final.
After sacking poch the whole Jose era, the debates everything. We reached full circle, playing for the only cup we've ever won under ENIC yesterday and we played 2 of the CMs that when Poch was here we was crying out for replacements for. We reached a sickening and poetic ending to the Poch team and that Era. It's been dying for a long time but let this now be the final ending.
When Poch came in it was a new project and it was largely successful, everything but a big title win is where we failed. The famous quote about setting our standards so high at spurs that even failure brings glory, we for a period had everything our club embodied all together. Levy didn't back poch, he thought he knew best and now here we are 20 years of ENIC, one league Cup, currently not getting champions league, managerless and our squad is fractured.
Whatever happens next, we must begin a new project like with Poch and rebuild from the ground up.
Were just like when Poch arrived, a few class players but the difference in the best players and the rest is huge right now.
Poch, champs final, winks and sissoko. Sissoko does something that leads to a goal in another cup final.
After sacking poch the whole Jose era, the debates everything. We reached full circle, playing for the only cup we've ever won under ENIC yesterday and we played 2 of the CMs that when Poch was here we was crying out for replacements for. We reached a sickening and poetic ending to the Poch team and that Era. It's been dying for a long time but let this now be the final ending.
When Poch came in it was a new project and it was largely successful, everything but a big title win is where we failed. The famous quote about setting our standards so high at spurs that even failure brings glory, we for a period had everything our club embodied all together. Levy didn't back poch, he thought he knew best and now here we are 20 years of ENIC, one league Cup, currently not getting champions league, managerless and our squad is fractured.
Whatever happens next, we must begin a new project like with Poch and rebuild from the ground up.
Were just like when Poch arrived, a few class players but the difference in the best players and the rest is huge right now.
I think we could be in serious trouble if we don’t get it right this summer.
And I absolutely have ZERO faith in Levy or anyone else at the club to do that.
We need to sell players DESPERATELY and replace them with actual footballers.
If we have to sell Kane then so be it, but if we recruit cunts like sissoko then I have genuine fears of being relegated next season.
Then we need a proper manager who has the right philosophy for Tottenham. I honestly couldn’t give a fuck about trophies or top 4, I just want to fucking enjoy football again because it’s been far too long since I’ve been able to.
The club is in a complete state, and it genuinely makes me upset
It’s an absolutely huge summer.
And I absolutely have ZERO faith in Levy or anyone else at the club to do that.
We need to sell players DESPERATELY and replace them with actual footballers.
If we have to sell Kane then so be it, but if we recruit cunts like sissoko then I have genuine fears of being relegated next season.
Then we need a proper manager who has the right philosophy for Tottenham. I honestly couldn’t give a fuck about trophies or top 4, I just want to fucking enjoy football again because it’s been far too long since I’ve been able to.
The club is in a complete state, and it genuinely makes me upset
It’s an absolutely huge summer.
We have a squad which is some way short of the squad Poch had for his first match in charge - Poch had Lloris, Walker, Rose, Davies, Vertonghen Dier, Dembele, (Mason & Bentaleb Poch first choice CM;'s in his first season), Eriksen, Kane et al
Dele arrived a year later after David Pleat beat down Levy's door to ensure he was signed, Son's agent forced his sale from Leveverkeusen after they refused to allow Son to go to Asian Games, the winners of which got out of 2 years national service (Spurs agreed to allow Son to go) also in 2015, whilst Vertonghen's Belgian (and former Ajax cb partner) Alderweireld also arrived in 2015.
But aside from those our recent recriuitment over last 5 years has been pretty dire - Janssen (Poch proudly announced he had been scouting him at his signing), Sissoko, N'Jie, Nkoudou, et al, pretty much all poor.
And as this tweet makes clear, money has been spent :
Add to the lack of success in transfer market, the total absence (other than Winks) of bringing through any youth from the academy has been an horrific failure of both identification, development and coaching players over 18 year old over the last 5 years. By comparison Poch sold half a dozen youth players on the fringes of first team squad for over £100m, invested into poor players.
So the challenge is to rebuild a squad better than the one Poch inherited.
This is the problem I have seen with a narrative going around many Spurs fan social media the idea that Levy is cheap or if we sell Kane or Son that he won't spend. That is such BS. He likely won't spend it well and won't spend enough but he will spend enough to get us to the point (in his view) that we can get CL.
That is very important to Levy and always his goal. This concern that we are going to "do a Leeds" or whatever the saying is is ridiculous. The idea that Levy will sell Kane and Son for 200m and pocket that is ridiculous. The problem we have is that Levy will do what he sees as the bare minimum to get us to 4th because that is how he maximizes the money he makes.
Us dropping out of CL running is terrible for him, he will not keep money back and be happy watching us fall to the bottom of the table. It might happen because he is an idiot when it comes to football decisions but it won't happen because he is too cheap.
If you told him if he spent 200m he would make 350m he would spend that 200m easily. That's not being cheap.
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