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bus-conductor said:
More unknown knowns from you. He's asked it me once in the middle of a completely different argument we were having that wasn't going so well and then again yesterday.
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I have lost track of how many times he has asked you that question. I know why he is asking it. I know why you are not answering it. None of us are right all the time.

It doesn't matter all that much to me. He's got me on ignore, hasn't he? I understand the nature of the beasts, but it looked as though the two of you were toying with the idea of a spot of make-up sex in recent times. I got that wrong, didn't I?
 
Five said:
I have lost track of how many times he has asked you that question. I know why he is asking it. I know why you are not answering it. None of us are right all the time.
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I’m not not answering it. I know why he’s asking it, and I think he’s on spurious ground, and will happily discuss it, if he actually gets round to just fucking saying what he really wants to say.

Five said:
It doesn't matter all that much to me. He's got me on ignore, hasn't he? I understand the nature of the beasts, but it looked as though the two of you were toying with the idea of a spot of make-up sex in recent times. I got that wrong, didn't I?
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I thought so too, I still quite like the uppity fucking prick, even though he busts balls, (maybe because of, it was just more fun when it wasn’t mine) but we know what thought did, as my Nan would say...
 
Five said:
I do think there is something in what you are saying about Rodgers not being one of the game's great thinkers. What was Puel's style of play when he was there? All I can remember is he got a lot of criticism for playing dull football?

Pound for pound, Leicester shouldn't really be making the likes of us, Chelsea, Liverpool, Woolwich and Everton sweat so much, should they? Would you give Rodgers any credit at all?
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Five said:
I found this.

www.skysports.com

Claude Puel sacked by Leicester: Five reasons why it went wrong

Leicester were beaten 4-1 at home to Crystal Palace on Saturday
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com

Tell me what you think.
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Rodgers definitely improved them by making them more dynamic side that can play counter attacking as well as possession based front-foot football.

Under Puel they didn't have much variety in their game and most senior players who didn't fit his style like Vardy were getting frozen out.

Puel brought Soyuncu, Maddison, Tielemans and Pereira, improved Ndidi and Chillwell and introduced Barnes to the first team.

I hate Brenda and his face but he deserves the credit for making them more tactically versatile side but most of the groundwork were laid out by his predecessor.
 
Don Giovanni said:
Rodgers definitely improved them by making them more dynamic side that can play counter attacking as well as possession based front-foot football.

Under Puel they didn't have much variety in their game and most senior players who didn't fit his style like Vardy were getting frozen out.

Puel brought Soyuncu, Maddison, Tielemans and Pereira, improved Ndidi and Chillwell and introduced Barnes to the first team.

I hate Brenda and his face but he deserves the credit for making them more tactically versatile side but most of the groundwork were laid out by his predecessor.
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Forgive me interjecting, but this last thing, the thing you give him credit for, is the thing that worries me most about Rodgers, because I am never sure whether his (or coaches like him) tactical fluctuation is deliberate or just an inability to coach one strong ethos.

he has a body of work that definitely has it's merits, I liked the way his Swansea had a total ethos, I liked they way his Suarez Liverpool also had a clear methodology, but Suarez left and it completely fell apart. Some say he just continued the work of others at Swansea (I don't know I never watched them prior to Rodgers).

This Leicester team seem a funny animal to me. They can look good, but can look ropey. I can't figure out exactly what his ethos is. Maybe that's tactical flexibility, maybe I'm doing him a disservice, but I can't figure him out. Don't know what type of team his Leicester really are - the way you can with Nuno's Wolves, Hasenhuttl's Southampton, Potter's Brighton, Klopp, Guardiola etc even Pochettino.
 
bus-conductor said:
Forgive me interjecting, but this last thing, the thing you give him credit for, is the thing that worries me most about Rodgers, because I am never sure whether his (or coaches like him) tactical fluctuation is deliberate or just an inability to coach one strong ethos.

he has a body of work that definitely has it's merits, I liked the way his Swansea had a total ethos, I liked they way his Suarez Liverpool also had a clear methodology, but Suarez left and it completely fell apart. Some say he just continued the work of others at Swansea (I don't know I never watched them prior to Rodgers).

This Leicester team seem a funny animal to me. They can look good, but can look ropey. I can't figure out exactly what his ethos is. Maybe that's tactical flexibility, maybe I'm doing him a disservice, but I can't figure him out. Don't know what type of team his Leicester really are - the way you can with Nuno's Wolves, Hasenhuttl's Southampton, Potter's Brighton, Klopp, Guardiola etc even Pochettino.
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Not sure many would have an answer "what exactly does Brenda believes in? " I think he's a sensible coach willing to adopt to anything as long as it delivers results. Which is why he will never be great since all the 'greats' (Pep/Cruyf/Bielsa) have at least one core value they will always stand for.
 
bus-conductor said:
Forgive me interjecting, but this last thing, the thing you give him credit for, is the thing that worries me most about Rodgers, because I am never sure whether his (or coaches like him) tactical fluctuation is deliberate or just an inability to coach one strong ethos.

he has a body of work that definitely has it's merits, I liked the way his Swansea had a total ethos, I liked they way his Suarez Liverpool also had a clear methodology, but Suarez left and it completely fell apart. Some say he just continued the work of others at Swansea (I don't know I never watched them prior to Rodgers).

This Leicester team seem a funny animal to me. They can look good, but can look ropey. I can't figure out exactly what his ethos is. Maybe that's tactical flexibility, maybe I'm doing him a disservice, but I can't figure him out. Don't know what type of team his Leicester really are - the way you can with Nuno's Wolves, Hasenhuttl's Southampton, Potter's Brighton, Klopp, Guardiola etc even Pochettino.
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Completly with you on this Blakey.

FWIW I think Martinez's Swansea was better and/or was a far better achievement than Rodgers, in fact, were it not for Martinez laying down the foundations there would have been nothing for Rodgers to work with.

Watching Gary Monk's Swansea was no different than Rodgers IMO and I think the bubble had burst at Swansea before Monk came in, so the job he did I think was better than Rodgers as the ownership of the club had changed and investment into the team had stopped, basically, he had to work in a much harder and unsupportive environment than Rodgers ever did and statistically there's little to separate them.
 
Probably not the right thread but sky sports are scraping the barrel so much mark wright is now reporting on premier league matches for them. Fucking joke. Subscription gone
 
If Palace can hold at least that'll pretty much confirm finishing above Woolwich and qualification for the Europa Conference - City will beat Everton on the final day. EL looking tricky though, West Ham's to lose now.
 
NW1Spur said:
If Palace can hold at least that'll pretty much confirm finishing above Woolwich and qualification for the Europa Conference - City will beat Everton on the final day. EL looking tricky though, West Ham's to lose now.
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You do realise Leicester will bend us over on Sunday so we need teams to mess up twice.
We certainly don’t want seventh, new manager will need to spend 24 hours a day 6 days a week on the training ground with most of this lot
 
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