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Management Poll: Who do you want most as our next manager?
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Have you ignored Levy's history and the amount of times he has fucked up great deals that were basically done because of his petty antics?
If we were pretty much any other club or had any other Chairman I would see the deal as done and just finishing up the finer details, but we have seen too many times it is during the final details that Levy truly shines as the cunt he is and fucks it all up.
So the fact that historically in the Prem era the clubs who invest the most tend to do well is them being lucky.
Leicester an exception and to a lesser degree Woowich in early Wenger years
Blackburn won the Premier under Jack Walker, that was not luck it was investment. They were a small club who could not keep it going when he died.
If our biggest problem is that after making the CL we only make it to the last 16 and don't advance past it, at this point I will gladly take it.
After bombing out of the CL a few times, maybe then we can address that issue.
Well he can't sign for Chelsea at the last minute at least.
I disagree on that emphatically. Bayern very much do not plan on the guy staying forever. They have plans, and the coach gets input only where they think he should. That's partly why Flick is leaving. He wanted a bigger say on transfers and they told him to shut up and do his job. Sevilla definitely are set up to allow coaches to come and go. They know they will get poached from, so are not invested in any one guy.
You don't plan on the guy staying forever. He may quit, he may suddenly get hit by a bus, he may suddenly lose the plot. The plans need to always be ready for someone to leave. Be they a player or a coach.
I have to strongly disagree with that statement. The manager is the figurehead of the club and represents the brand worldwide. Nobody gives a shit who the chairman of any club is, they care about the likes of Klopp, Pep, Poch, Wenger, Ferguson etc.
The manager is a direct bridge to the fans and is also the single most important thing when bringing value to the club considering that he is the main one responsible for how they perform on the pitch.
You must have been following a different club than me if you think that coaches have had too much control at this club.
Conte is asking for 7 staff members, less that he had at other clubs, he has never had an issue of brining in too many people and damaging a club, he has successfully transitioned to other clubs in the past why would this time be different? And as I seemingly have to ask every week when dealing with Levy apologists, what makes us so special that for Spurs it is different than the other clubs?
Not when it comes to managers though. He's actually been successful when chasing managers.
He's had his problems bringing some signings like Grealish, Fernandes.. and I'm not his biggest fan, but I'd back him to get this over the line.
Bayern also do that because they have football people making decisions so if the manager leaves they have qualified people there to continue running the club effectively.
We currently have zero quality football people involved with our club. Levy is running it, terribly, and Hitchen is the 2nd most powerful person in charge. Neither should have anything to do with the running of a club.
Comparing us to a well run club like Bayern makes no sense. We are the furthest thing from them. We have no ability to do things how they do.
Does he have that much experience in dealing with a manager like Conte though?
I love Poch but I don't think dealing with the Southampton manager is the same as dealing with someone like Conte who has so much more leverage and doesn't need Spurs at all.
Even Jose needed us because he had little to no options and certainly not a club at our level.
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I hope you are right it just sounds so similar to so many of those players deals where everything was ready to go and Levy tried to squeeze and extra amount out at the last minute.
Those guys/teams had leverage so could pass, Conte does as well.
Well Levy is not good at that either , what happened to Arnessen , Baldini and Commoli. His record on picking DOFs who he can work with is not exactly a positive
When Bayern bring in a new coach they back him. Simple as. They backed Ancelotti, Kovac and many other coaches. They have an extensive setup at the back but they never bring in a manager with expectation that he will be sacked, that is just insanity if a club is operating like that. As I said power struggles may occur down the line or performances may dip but every single person within the setup of at those clubs is their to make sure that they get the right guy and that the guy is backed well. I can guarantee you that nobody at that club is scared of Nagelsmann underperforming in 2 years time.
It seems that within our current setup we are scared of investing too heavily into a manager in case he fails.
I think its more the fact that Levy is getting hung up on small things like staff size and failing to see the bigger picture.
Agree we are too afraid of investing 'heavily', not sure it is connected to particular managers, it's just Levy imho.
With ongoing negotiations, Conte is not in such a strong position as people think. Where else could he go? RM, PSG & Barca sorted. Terms of severance cannot go to other Italian club. Big English clubs not after Manager and Everton not really as attractive. German clubs tend to go for German Managers.
Clearly Conte is successful but downside is his volatility and frequent changes. Perhaps a 2 year deal better but would Levy worry he could leave and refuse a longer contract if all goes well?
It could still all go pear shaped and with Conte that could be his fault whilst everyone will blame Levy.
Clearly Conte is successful but downside is his volatility and frequent changes. Perhaps a 2 year deal better but would Levy worry he could leave and refuse a longer contract if all goes well?
It could still all go pear shaped and with Conte that could be his fault whilst everyone will blame Levy.
Tell him to stand on a biscuit tin then
Joe to Conte:
