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Manager Nuno Espírito Santo

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The advantage I see in Nuno to Jose is that Nuno is not so proud to not try at least change things. He will change players and systems when things don’t work out.

Wrong. He very rarely changes players and systems.

When he signs players he made them wait 3+ months before playing them.
See: Dendoncker, Podence, as good examples.

He prefers to play the same players. Saiss, a DM played CB over Kilman, an actual CB. When Marcal got injured, he preferred to play Kilman and Saiss at LWB over bringing in Ait-Nouri, an actual LB.

Otasowie was dropped for 3 months for missing a header Vs Brighton. This was at the detriment to the team, as Moutinho and Neves played every available minute in his absence knackered, as he was now playing Dendoncker, the B2B midfielder signed to give legs to midfield and assist Neves and Moutinho, at CB.

Systems:

Championship:
343 religiously.

1st season in premier League:
343 for half a season, it was clear and obvious early on that we were getting overrun in midfield (see first Watford game and run of results that followed).

This was frustrating because we had signed a box to box midfielder (Dendoncker) who could have given much needed legs to the midfield and potentially stop results like Huddersfield beating us 2-0, Cardiff beating us 2-1.
Dendoncker wasn't given a look in until the Chelsea game, where he played CB (common theme, DMs at CB)

Crystal Palace, 2nd of January, he first tried the 352 at the end of the game. We lost 2-0.

Between Watford game and Palace, record was P13 W3 D1 L9.
After changing to 352 (which we played for rest of season): P17 W8 D4 L5 (Man City, Liverpool, Burnley, Huddersfield, Southampton were the losses)

2019/20
Started 352, were struggling for goals.
Switched to 343 for our first win.
Kept it at 343 until we started getting overrun in midfield, then flitted back and forth between 352 and 343 depending on whether we won or lost previous game, there was no rhyme or reason.

2020/21
Signed players to switch to 4231
Ended up playing 343 for majority of season.
Even after we were "safe" and able to experiment for next season with youth and 4231, he insisted on 343 and playing same players.

The only time he has made a positive tactical switch in a game is Vs Southampton this season.
He inverted Neto and Adama and instructed them to carry the ball inside the pitch.
Other than that we weren't moving with the ball in centre of pitch and were so easy to defend against because of complete lack of runners:

Leicester would triple mark Adama and Neto, no runners from midfield allowed Tielemans and Choudhary to abandon midfield and press. Nuno didn't instruct midfielders to carry ball inside and exploit this space. We were toothless.
 
Wrong. He very rarely changes players and systems.

When he signs players he made them wait 3+ months before playing them.
See: Dendoncker, Podence, as good examples.

He prefers to play the same players. Saiss, a DM played CB over Kilman, an actual CB. When Marcal got injured, he preferred to play Kilman and Saiss at LWB over bringing in Ait-Nouri, an actual LB.

Otasowie was dropped for 3 months for missing a header Vs Brighton. This was at the detriment to the team, as Moutinho and Neves played every available minute in his absence knackered, as he was now playing Dendoncker, the B2B midfielder signed to give legs to midfield and assist Neves and Moutinho, at CB.

Systems:

Championship:
343 religiously.

1st season in premier League:
343 for half a season, it was clear and obvious early on that we were getting overrun in midfield (see first Watford game and run of results that followed).

This was frustrating because we had signed a box to box midfielder (Dendoncker) who could have given much needed legs to the midfield and potentially stop results like Huddersfield beating us 2-0, Cardiff beating us 2-1.
Dendoncker wasn't given a look in until the Chelsea game, where he played CB (common theme, DMs at CB)

Crystal Palace, 2nd of January, he first tried the 352 at the end of the game. We lost 2-0.

Between Watford game and Palace, record was P13 W3 D1 L9.
After changing to 352 (which we played for rest of season): P17 W8 D4 L5 (Man City, Liverpool, Burnley, Huddersfield, Southampton were the losses)

2019/20
Started 352, were struggling for goals.
Switched to 343 for our first win.
Kept it at 343 until we started getting overrun in midfield, then flitted back and forth between 352 and 343 depending on whether we won or lost previous game, there was no rhyme or reason.

2020/21
Signed players to switch to 4231
Ended up playing 343 for majority of season.
Even after we were "safe" and able to experiment for next season with youth and 4231, he insisted on 343 and playing same players.

The only time he has made a positive tactical switch in a game is Vs Southampton this season.
He inverted Neto and Adama and instructed them to carry the ball inside the pitch.
Other than that we weren't moving with the ball in centre of pitch and were so easy to defend against because of complete lack of runners:

Leicester would triple mark Adama and Neto, no runners from midfield allowed Tielemans and Choudhary to abandon midfield and press. Nuno didn't instruct midfielders to carry ball inside and exploit this space. We were toothless.
I wanted to feel a bit better about this :(
 
I’m Portuguese and a Porto fan. You can imagine how I feel about this. Thank you for the Fabio silva money btw. Reckon Moutinho will leave?

Fabio is genuinely good, his movement and anticipation is scary for his age, the way he peels off defenders (any of the headers he missed, Dunk red card Vs Brighton) and knows where other players are (Adama goal Vs Fulham) is miles ahead of any other 18 year old we've had at the club for a long long time.

I think Moutinho will go back to Portugal, he's class but time has caught up with him, Nuno's ran him into the ground, legs wise.
 
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Fabio is genuinely good, his movement and anticipation is scary for his age, the way he peels off defenders (any of the headers he missed, Dunk red card Vs Brighton) and knows where other players are (Adama goal Vs Fulham) is miles ahead of any other 18 year old we've had at the club for a long long time.

I think Moutinho will go back to Portugal, he's class but time has caught up with him, Nuno's ran him into the ground, legs wise.

he’s promising but it was silly money for us and we already had better strikers for the moment.

I asked because there’s rumours of him coming back to Porto
 
out of curiosity I get why managers with negative football are disliked by why so many Wolves fans like Nuno or has that changed?

It's a tough question but I'll do my best to answer it.

We've been through a period where most managers were dickheads (Saunders, Zenga, Lambert), and Nuno has come in and built a massive rapport with the fans. He's a genuinely nice guy who understood the area and the importance of football as an outlet in a working class city like Wolverhampton.

It was the first time in my life that there was progress on and off the pitch and the whole city came together. It helped massively that he was backed in the early transfer windows.

Small gestures like donating to charity initiatives, go a long long way, and Nuno did it all.

After many false dawns and league 1, most wolves fans are happy to be "also ran". They have no ambition. They're happy to be in the premier league without pushing for cups or a title, it's really odd. Most fans also have memories of sacking managers and getting the next appointment wrong, so there was some apprehension towards dispensing of Nuno.

The same fuss was made about sacking Mick McCarthy, but most fans agree in hindsight that he should have gone after 3-2 loss v Blackburn the previous season.

But it's plain to see it had ran its course. He couldn't motivate the players for our first local derby in a decade. He couldn't motivate our players vs man United's kids, the first time fans were back in stadium in over a year, and send him out on a win.
 
Wrong. He very rarely changes players and systems.

When he signs players he made them wait 3+ months before playing them.
See: Dendoncker, Podence, as good examples.

He prefers to play the same players. Saiss, a DM played CB over Kilman, an actual CB. When Marcal got injured, he preferred to play Kilman and Saiss at LWB over bringing in Ait-Nouri, an actual LB.

Otasowie was dropped for 3 months for missing a header Vs Brighton. This was at the detriment to the team, as Moutinho and Neves played every available minute in his absence knackered, as he was now playing Dendoncker, the B2B midfielder signed to give legs to midfield and assist Neves and Moutinho, at CB.

Systems:

Championship:
343 religiously.

1st season in premier League:
343 for half a season, it was clear and obvious early on that we were getting overrun in midfield (see first Watford game and run of results that followed).

This was frustrating because we had signed a box to box midfielder (Dendoncker) who could have given much needed legs to the midfield and potentially stop results like Huddersfield beating us 2-0, Cardiff beating us 2-1.
Dendoncker wasn't given a look in until the Chelsea game, where he played CB (common theme, DMs at CB)

Crystal Palace, 2nd of January, he first tried the 352 at the end of the game. We lost 2-0.

Between Watford game and Palace, record was P13 W3 D1 L9.
After changing to 352 (which we played for rest of season): P17 W8 D4 L5 (Man City, Liverpool, Burnley, Huddersfield, Southampton were the losses)

2019/20
Started 352, were struggling for goals.
Switched to 343 for our first win.
Kept it at 343 until we started getting overrun in midfield, then flitted back and forth between 352 and 343 depending on whether we won or lost previous game, there was no rhyme or reason.

2020/21
Signed players to switch to 4231
Ended up playing 343 for majority of season.
Even after we were "safe" and able to experiment for next season with youth and 4231, he insisted on 343 and playing same players.

The only time he has made a positive tactical switch in a game is Vs Southampton this season.
He inverted Neto and Adama and instructed them to carry the ball inside the pitch.
Other than that we weren't moving with the ball in centre of pitch and were so easy to defend against because of complete lack of runners:

Leicester would triple mark Adama and Neto, no runners from midfield allowed Tielemans and Choudhary to abandon midfield and press. Nuno didn't instruct midfielders to carry ball inside and exploit this space. We were toothless.
Excuse me...but would you take the Spurs job please. I think you'd be an upgrade on Santos Fonseca and Gatusso.
 
We will struggle this season, but that's more as a consequence of Nuno's small squad and the UEFA FFP settlement tying our hands in the transfer market. We need at least 7 quality additions and still break even.

Form wise, if we continue like we did under Nuno we're fucked.
Are you taking up your option on RAN?
 
Are you taking up your option on RAN?

Transfer news doesn't tend to leak from Wolves

I'd be disappointed if we weren't, we'd be left without a LB and it'd cost more than the RAN fee to sign somebody competent.

(Marcal is permanently injured, Jonny out until 2022 but after suffering 2x ACL ruptures I'm thinking he'll be sent to the glue factory)
 
Pretty apathetic about it. I’ve a feeling that was part of the plan. Grind us poor bastards down. He could work or could not. All seems a bit weird why he left Wolves. Was it a falling out with the owners or family issues like has been mooted. Got a feeling because he is staying in England that it’s the former.
 
Pretty apathetic about it. I’ve a feeling that was part of the plan. Grind us poor bastards down. He could work or could not. All seems a bit weird why he left Wolves. Was it a falling out with the owners or family issues like has been mooted. Got a feeling because he is staying in England that it’s the former.

He was sacked because of regression both stylistic and performance wise. It was unforgivable that we fell below Villa and Newcastle.

He had lost the players, and was apparently ignoring the recruitment team's suggestions in favour of Mendes clients.

We paid off his contract and that of his backroom staff.

In terms of him being unhappy in England, that rumour started after we lost to west Brom where he just sat there like a lemon all sad looking on the bench as big Sam barked orders to his players. Some idiots tried to crowdfund a banner for him.

Wolves always say managers leave by mutual consent.
Lambert left by mutual consent.
Zenga, mutual consent.
Nuno, mutual consent.

He was sacked.
 
I'll neither back him or attack him. I'm now impervious to anything relating to Spurs until the digusting, exploiting, lying rats destroying my club are out on their arses.

My involvement with Spurs is now limited to being an annoying little bitchcunt on this forum until the glorious freedom day arrives

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You’ve had plenty of practice tbf
 
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