And a litre of ColaOr are busy eating burgers and shooting things
just kidding American bros
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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane
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Or make him get the balls that end up in the next field after sissoko's shooting practice
I guess some on here would applaud him for outwitting Levy and fucking off for free. At least Campbell (clears throat of vomit) saw out his contract before he did the dirty. I think that set the tone for Levy. Never again. So Kane going is inevitable. But I’d make him suffer this year. Get in a new guy now and slowly phase Kane out of the team. He will still fetch a tidy sum but he won’t be getting too much closer to Shearers record unless we really need him on the pitch. If he sulks, that’s a huge red flag to any future employer.
We mean just over a pint and a half...You mean a 32 oz. Coke?
So almost quart?
You've lost me now,as maths was never strong point.So just gave a like...
Thats a shame, it was going to get real fun once we started arguing over imperial quarts and US quarts!You've lost me now,as maths was never strong point.So just gave a like...
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Rant man rant….motherfucking oil funded cheating bastards…
My local does spirit measures in the irish version.So whilst you get more,you also get worse hangovers...
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Jamie Carragher in the Telegraph
Kane risks his reputation – and not just at Spurs
Watching the situation with Harry Kane unfold over the past few days has brought back memories for me of the time when Steven Gerrard was considering leaving Liverpool for Chelsea. My advice to Stevie then was: “You are going to come back to the city, your kids are going to be Liverpool fans, you are loved, don’t ruin it for a move.”
Wrong approach: Harry Kane must not tarnish his hard-won reputation as a top professional
Wrong approach: Harry Kane must not tarnish his hard-won reputation as a top professional
He thought very hard about the reputational damage, and that is what pulled him back. He knew Chelsea were better than Liverpool and were going to win more trophies.
We all did, just as we know Manchester City have won and will continue to win more than Tottenham. But sometimes certain things are special and you do not ruin those special things.
I know people always say that Gerrard never won the league. But I am thinking what he did was bigger than winning the league. A local player, a one-club man, a Liverpool legend, arguably the greatest player in their history, all these things matter. They are special.
And he is seen around the world in a lot better light now because of that than if he had gone to Chelsea and won two or three league titles.
I would say that, because of Stevie’s decision to stay, there is almost a guarantee at some stage of his career that he will end up managing Liverpool. If he had gone to Chelsea at that time, would he actually still be in a position where he could potentially take over from Jurgen Klopp?
Tottenham are not Liverpool in terms of trophies and history and I am not saying Harry Kane should stay at Spurs. I know it is about the here and now and winning trophies. I get he wants to win the Premier League, win the Champions League. I have no problem with him wanting to go to City.
But it is the way he is going about trying to get that transfer by not turning up to training that is worrying. My message to Harry would be the same as it was to Stevie: “Don’t ruin your reputation for this; always think about your name and standing in the game.”
For me, that is as important as any trophy Harry could win. When I think of players not turning up for training, people like Pierre van Hooijdonk and Carlos Tevez spring to mind. You might expect it from certain players, but Harry Kane is seen differently. He is the England captain. But is anyone telling Kane not to put himself in that bracket?
I think missing one or two training sessions is not the end of that reputation, but if this continues, if he really drags it through the mud and this becomes a massive saga, I would be really disappointed in him, because I think that much of him as a player and a professional.
Being a local player like Kane means you are judged to a different standard by your club’s supporters. I was terrified of Liverpool fans ever thinking I was angling for a move – not that I did – or that I was a problem, or I was saying things in the press.
My contract talks would only ever last a couple of hours because of the concern I had about how supporters might perceive the situation. You have to conduct yourself differently as a local player. You are held to a higher standard. Kane is going to want to go back to Tottenham in years to come. If he goes to City, no matter what happens there, he will always be seen as Tottenham’s Harry Kane. He wants to be loved there.
He will live in London when he is finished, his kids will be Tottenham fans, he may end up managing the club. There are very few Harry Kanes left now. If you are that player and you want to go, you have got to go through the front door – not the back door.
A lot of people are having a go at the Tottenham chairman, Daniel Levy, saying he is reneging on a handshake with Kane. But surely this gentlemen’s agreement would have been along the lines of: “If you want to go, OK, you can go, but someone has to cough up the money for you.”
Levy has to protect Tottenham’s interests. What is everyone expecting him to do? Move aside and roll over? Imagine the reaction from Tottenham fans to Levy if he let Kane leave on the cheap? If City are offering £100 million for Jack Grealish, then Harry Kane is £150 million. I love Grealish, but how can you compare him to Kane? Kane is one of the best two or three players in the league. So the Grealish price plays into Levy’s hands.
But I still do not understand this talk of Kane being backed into a corner. Has he been? Why so? The club never forced him to sign a six-year deal in 2018. It is the fault of Kane and his advisers for signing a contract that long without a buy-out clause, which was absolutely ridiculous. What would annoy me if I was Kane is if City were sitting back and saying to him: “You might need to cause a bit of trouble because we want to get you cheaper.” But by kicking up a fuss he may ruin his relationship with a club he has been at since he was a kid and could then struggle to go back to in the future. Kane should be putting the ball in City’s court and saying: “If you want me, you know what it is going to cost.”
Kane’s actions will only have hardened Levy’s stance. I think he will see this as a fight now. I do not think you want to irritate owners like that. I think Kane should have gone about it in another way.
I think most realistic Tottenham fans can understand why he wants to go, but you risk turning the situation completely against you by not turning up for training when you have a six-year contract.
Don’t ruin your reputation, Harry. It matters
Kane risks his reputation – and not just at Spurs
Watching the situation with Harry Kane unfold over the past few days has brought back memories for me of the time when Steven Gerrard was considering leaving Liverpool for Chelsea. My advice to Stevie then was: “You are going to come back to the city, your kids are going to be Liverpool fans, you are loved, don’t ruin it for a move.”
Wrong approach: Harry Kane must not tarnish his hard-won reputation as a top professional
Wrong approach: Harry Kane must not tarnish his hard-won reputation as a top professional
He thought very hard about the reputational damage, and that is what pulled him back. He knew Chelsea were better than Liverpool and were going to win more trophies.
We all did, just as we know Manchester City have won and will continue to win more than Tottenham. But sometimes certain things are special and you do not ruin those special things.
I know people always say that Gerrard never won the league. But I am thinking what he did was bigger than winning the league. A local player, a one-club man, a Liverpool legend, arguably the greatest player in their history, all these things matter. They are special.
And he is seen around the world in a lot better light now because of that than if he had gone to Chelsea and won two or three league titles.
I would say that, because of Stevie’s decision to stay, there is almost a guarantee at some stage of his career that he will end up managing Liverpool. If he had gone to Chelsea at that time, would he actually still be in a position where he could potentially take over from Jurgen Klopp?
Tottenham are not Liverpool in terms of trophies and history and I am not saying Harry Kane should stay at Spurs. I know it is about the here and now and winning trophies. I get he wants to win the Premier League, win the Champions League. I have no problem with him wanting to go to City.
But it is the way he is going about trying to get that transfer by not turning up to training that is worrying. My message to Harry would be the same as it was to Stevie: “Don’t ruin your reputation for this; always think about your name and standing in the game.”
For me, that is as important as any trophy Harry could win. When I think of players not turning up for training, people like Pierre van Hooijdonk and Carlos Tevez spring to mind. You might expect it from certain players, but Harry Kane is seen differently. He is the England captain. But is anyone telling Kane not to put himself in that bracket?
I think missing one or two training sessions is not the end of that reputation, but if this continues, if he really drags it through the mud and this becomes a massive saga, I would be really disappointed in him, because I think that much of him as a player and a professional.
Being a local player like Kane means you are judged to a different standard by your club’s supporters. I was terrified of Liverpool fans ever thinking I was angling for a move – not that I did – or that I was a problem, or I was saying things in the press.
My contract talks would only ever last a couple of hours because of the concern I had about how supporters might perceive the situation. You have to conduct yourself differently as a local player. You are held to a higher standard. Kane is going to want to go back to Tottenham in years to come. If he goes to City, no matter what happens there, he will always be seen as Tottenham’s Harry Kane. He wants to be loved there.
He will live in London when he is finished, his kids will be Tottenham fans, he may end up managing the club. There are very few Harry Kanes left now. If you are that player and you want to go, you have got to go through the front door – not the back door.
A lot of people are having a go at the Tottenham chairman, Daniel Levy, saying he is reneging on a handshake with Kane. But surely this gentlemen’s agreement would have been along the lines of: “If you want to go, OK, you can go, but someone has to cough up the money for you.”
Levy has to protect Tottenham’s interests. What is everyone expecting him to do? Move aside and roll over? Imagine the reaction from Tottenham fans to Levy if he let Kane leave on the cheap? If City are offering £100 million for Jack Grealish, then Harry Kane is £150 million. I love Grealish, but how can you compare him to Kane? Kane is one of the best two or three players in the league. So the Grealish price plays into Levy’s hands.
But I still do not understand this talk of Kane being backed into a corner. Has he been? Why so? The club never forced him to sign a six-year deal in 2018. It is the fault of Kane and his advisers for signing a contract that long without a buy-out clause, which was absolutely ridiculous. What would annoy me if I was Kane is if City were sitting back and saying to him: “You might need to cause a bit of trouble because we want to get you cheaper.” But by kicking up a fuss he may ruin his relationship with a club he has been at since he was a kid and could then struggle to go back to in the future. Kane should be putting the ball in City’s court and saying: “If you want me, you know what it is going to cost.”
Kane’s actions will only have hardened Levy’s stance. I think he will see this as a fight now. I do not think you want to irritate owners like that. I think Kane should have gone about it in another way.
I think most realistic Tottenham fans can understand why he wants to go, but you risk turning the situation completely against you by not turning up for training when you have a six-year contract.
Don’t ruin your reputation, Harry. It matters
True, but doesnt make what he is saying wrong.Just a bit ironic