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Transfers Summer 2021 - Transfer Thread

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As expected really. I think Martinez would be about €75-80m and Vlahovic around €60m, if either are sold this summer.

Is Martinez 80m good?

When talk started this was supposedly a 60m deal.... We're creeping into seeeerious dosh levels here! ....Unless Kane goes it doesn't seem viable.

I think I'd rather get Vlahovic for his growth potential and ability to be a viable back-up ST (which we need regardless)..... On the occasions we decided to dabble with 2 up front we could just drop Kane a bit deeper behind him.

Kane
Vlahovic
Son

.....Seems like a nice mix to me; knowing that we can supplement Sonny with Gil on the left (esp. as his his strength seems to be trad wing-play anyway.
 
In case Harry Kane is sold and IF Bernardo Silva will be ncluded as part of the deal....here's a piece on why he went "silent" - by his standards - last season.
He can play both as a WF and playmaker.





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So Leicester is now our yardstick?
Probably should be, considering their significantly better record recently at player recruitment. They won the title over us, sold everyone worth anything in the summer, rebuilt, and have moved ahead of us again. They've spent less money than we have over that period of time, as well.

Not too surprising that some players would choose them over us at this point.
 
In the end, it's not just down to the scouts as the ultimate decision lies with the manager - Pochettino in this case. And managers also watch the players and scrutinizes scouting analysis.
However much I fancy Pohettino (and I would have taken him back this summer) I have to say that his transfer record is rather so so...
Yes, had some really good hits: Son and Toby. Dele and Kierran were also good purchases. And I'd say, for the price, of £5m, Dier for while wasn't bad either, nor were Moura and Davies.
Wanyama got his career wrecked by injuries. He was a monster while he lasted.
Spurs recovered the money from Wimmer, and Foyth, And Llorente "got" Spurs into the CL semis.
Gazzaniga joined on a free and was a big hit....among the female supporters 😁 He was ok, but never pushed Lloris for his starting spot.
Vorm did a decent job too as a backup goalie and did a job with the youth apparently.
Pau Lopez never played for Spurs in that 1season but 2 seasons later he was sold by Betis to Roma for €23.5. I bet that one hurt Levy in his pockets.
Yedlin, Stambuli and Fazio were cheap acquisitions BUT they were brought in to strengthen the starting XI. Which they didn't.
Sissoko's been a solid player and played regularly for 3 managers but he cost £30m! Not his fault that Spurs were desperate enough to pay that fee.
N'Jie and Nkoudou were total flops.
The jury is still out on Sessegnon and Clarke.
However, when he managed to get Levy & Lewis to open the "purse" his record is poor. None of the big purchases were anywhere near what was expected of them.
Janssen. 2 goals in 32 games. At least Spurs got £10 back for him.
Lo Celso, has lots of potentials, but he arrived injured and has remained so for 2 seasons. He can still become an excellent signing, so the jury is still out on him...
Sanchez has never really taken to life in the EPL. At £42m this is something Pochettino & co. should have been able to anticipate.
Aurier. He's got talent yes but not the mental focus.
Ndombele.If he's had to the fighting spirit of Wanyama or Dembele he'd be a world-class player. But it's really really poor scouting when the world knew that he had an attitude problem; it was very well known. Why on earth did they still go ahead???

I know that retrospection is a wonderful thing.... but, while Pochettino was at Spurs .... they missed out on huge bargains like the players mentioned below. One would expect that Spurs at least have gotten 1 or 2 of these players. Leicester got 5 of them.

Mahrez – Le Havre to Leicester in 2014 for £500,000
Kante - Caen to Leicester in 2014 for £5,6m
Van Dijk - Celtic to Soton in 2015 for £10m. Spurs had watched him.
Ndidi – Genk to Leicester in 2017 for £17m
Salah – Chelski to Roma 2016 for £15m (I doubt Chelski would have sold him to Spurs anway); Roma to Liverpool in 2019 for £36.5m (rising to £43m)
Robertson – Hull to Liverpoor 2017 for £8m
Maguire - Hull to Leicester in 2017 for £12 (rising to £17m)
James Maddison – to Leicester 2018 for £20m


So, overall, when considering the players Pochettino spent big money on and the player he "missed" out on, I'd say he was rather poor. But he did "miracles" for Spurs still result-wise, and Spurs - for a while - played maybe the best football in the EPL.
Is that your doctoral thesis?
 
In the end, it's not just down to the scouts as the ultimate decision lies with the manager - Pochettino in this case. And managers also watch the players and scrutinizes scouting analysis.
However much I fancy Pohettino (and I would have taken him back this summer) I have to say that his transfer record is rather so so...
Yes, had some really good hits: Son and Toby. Dele and Kierran were also good purchases. And I'd say, for the price, of £5m, Dier for while wasn't bad either, nor were Moura and Davies.
Wanyama got his career wrecked by injuries. He was a monster while he lasted.
Spurs recovered the money from Wimmer, and Foyth, And Llorente "got" Spurs into the CL semis.
Gazzaniga joined on a free and was a big hit....among the female supporters 😁 He was ok, but never pushed Lloris for his starting spot.
Vorm did a decent job too as a backup goalie and did a job with the youth apparently.
Pau Lopez never played for Spurs in that 1season but 2 seasons later he was sold by Betis to Roma for €23.5. I bet that one hurt Levy in his pockets.
Yedlin, Stambuli and Fazio were cheap acquisitions BUT they were brought in to strengthen the starting XI. Which they didn't.
Sissoko's been a solid player and played regularly for 3 managers but he cost £30m! Not his fault that Spurs were desperate enough to pay that fee.
N'Jie and Nkoudou were total flops.
The jury is still out on Sessegnon and Clarke.
However, when he managed to get Levy & Lewis to open the "purse" his record is poor. None of the big purchases were anywhere near what was expected of them.
Janssen. 2 goals in 32 games. At least Spurs got £10 back for him.
Lo Celso, has lots of potentials, but he arrived injured and has remained so for 2 seasons. He can still become an excellent signing, so the jury is still out on him...
Sanchez has never really taken to life in the EPL. At £42m this is something Pochettino & co. should have been able to anticipate.
Aurier. He's got talent yes but not the mental focus.
Ndombele.If he's had to the fighting spirit of Wanyama or Dembele he'd be a world-class player. But it's really really poor scouting when the world knew that he had an attitude problem; it was very well known. Why on earth did they still go ahead???

I know that retrospection is a wonderful thing.... but, while Pochettino was at Spurs .... they missed out on huge bargains like the players mentioned below. One would expect that Spurs at least have gotten 1 or 2 of these players. Leicester got 5 of them.

Mahrez – Le Havre to Leicester in 2014 for £500,000
Kante - Caen to Leicester in 2014 for £5,6m
Van Dijk - Celtic to Soton in 2015 for £10m. Spurs had watched him.
Ndidi – Genk to Leicester in 2017 for £17m
Salah – Chelski to Roma 2016 for £15m (I doubt Chelski would have sold him to Spurs anway); Roma to Liverpool in 2019 for £36.5m (rising to £43m)
Robertson – Hull to Liverpoor 2017 for £8m
Maguire - Hull to Leicester in 2017 for £12 (rising to £17m)
James Maddison – to Leicester 2018 for £20m


So, overall, when considering the players Pochettino spent big money on and the player he "missed" out on, I'd say he was rather poor. But he did "miracles" for Spurs still result-wise, and Spurs - for a while - played maybe the best football in the EPL.

Sorry, but that's BS. You could make a list pretty much the same and just as long of poor signings for nearly every club. Including for the clubs who snapped up those, you say, we missed out on. Signings are by definition hit and miss, because players are humans, not 1's and 0's
 
All but the bullshit seems to have gone quiet. What are the most realistic prospects?

Tomiyasu?
Vlahovic?

Everything else seems like pipe dreams (i.e. other stuff has to happen first).

Any reliable word on a mid? Or is it Sissoko and Winks next season?

Donfabulation seems to be able to conjure stuff up, so I'm hopeful we'll have at least one surprise.
 
Is Martinez 80m good?

When talk started this was supposedly a 60m deal.... We're creeping into seeeerious dosh levels here! ....Unless Kane goes it doesn't seem viable.

I think I'd rather get Vlahovic for his growth potential and ability to be a viable back-up ST (which we need regardless)..... On the occasions we decided to dabble with 2 up front we could just drop Kane a bit deeper behind him.

Kane
Vlahovic
Son

.....Seems like a nice mix to me; knowing that we can supplement Sonny with Gil on the left (esp. as his his strength seems to be trad wing-play anyway.

We have signed more than enough "viable" strikers, Soldado, Janssen, Pav, Bent, and the like being just a few.

Levy must have learned his lesson by now and surely Paratici understands that we need to spend on a player to compliment Kane but if he is destined to move then a couple of fit for purpose strikers and not players that are up and coming or as cheap as chips.

That boat should have sailed long, long ago.
 
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