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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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sammyspurs said:
I’m not trolling, you just disagree but have nothing in your locker to explain how a world class striker can have a worse shooting accuracy than Patrick Bamford
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There are passing accuracy stats. On paper Winks' 90% passing accuracy looks magical, in reality hes shat his pants and passed sideway and back to the CB for almost all those passes.

Similarly just plain shooting accuracy is a poor quality metric. Maybe if you have a breakdown of what the expected goals from those shots were and how many he scored in relation to that, that would help your case. For example, if Kane is near the halfway line and sees the goalie slightly off his line. Theres a 0.001% chance for it to be a goal. but considering we arent that great and the rest of the team is shit at scoring, I'd want him to go for it. It will most likely not go in but it gets counted as a 'shot missed' for stats purposes.

Like I said, if you could back what you are saying with slightly better quality of stats, then people would take it seriously.
 
iz futbal said:
There are passing accuracy stats. On paper Winks' 90% passing accuracy looks magical, in reality hes shat his pants and passed sideway and back to the CB for almost all those passes.

Similarly just plain shooting accuracy is a poor quality metric. Maybe if you have a breakdown of what the expected goals from those shots were and how many he scored in relation to that, that would help your case. For example, if Kane is near the halfway line and sees the goalie slightly off his line. Theres a 0.001% chance for it to be a goal. but considering we arent that great and the rest of the team is shit at scoring, I'd want him to go for it. It will most likely not go in but it gets counted as a 'shot missed' for stats purposes.

Like I said, if you could back what you are saying with slightly better quality of stats, then people would take it seriously.
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Have already responded to this mate. Kane's goal tally didn't look great last season in relation to his xG. Two of his own teammates, Son and Bale, had significantly higher goals above xG than Kane so can't blame everything on Kane not getting service, tactics, teammates etc.

NDomBadBoy said:
The only statistical way to gauge the difficulty of a player's shots/goals etc. is xG, which people dismiss when it comes to Kane because his goals above xG isn't great.

People talk about Kane winning the golden boot last season but fact is, his goals above xG was just +0.8 meaning he didn't score much more than he was expected to score. While +0.8 isn't bad, compare this with someone like Son who's goals above xG was +6.0 - the highest in the league last season. Bale's goals above xG was also extremely high at +5.2. Same team, same supporting cast, same manager. The difference is that Son and Bale were just much more efficient and clinical than Kane.

Other players with higher goals above xG than Kane include:
-Fernandes
-Salah
-Lacazette
-Gundogan
-Kelechi
-Ings
-Rashford
-Zaha

I could go on but there are too many to list...
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iz futbal said:
There are passing accuracy stats. On paper Winks' 90% passing accuracy looks magical, in reality hes shat his pants and passed sideway and back to the CB for almost all those passes.

Similarly just plain shooting accuracy is a poor quality metric. Maybe if you have a breakdown of what the expected goals from those shots were and how many he scored in relation to that, that would help your case. For example, if Kane is near the halfway line and sees the goalie slightly off his line. Theres a 0.001% chance for it to be a goal. but considering we arent that great and the rest of the team is shit at scoring, I'd want him to go for it. It will most likely not go in but it gets counted as a 'shot missed' for stats purposes.

Like I said, if you could back what you are saying with slightly better quality of stats, then people would take it seriously.
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I can back up the facts by watching Kane play shit
 
NDomBadBoy said:
Have already responded to this mate. Kane's goal tally didn't look great last season in relation to his xG. Two of his own teammates, Son and Bale, had significantly higher goals above xG than Kane so can't blame everything on Kane not getting service, tactics, teammates etc.
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Is this based on last season? He did miss that important chance vs Zagreb as well . We can blame our defenders all we like (and they should be blamed for joke defending at times) but Kane really really fucks up on the big occasions too.
 
NDomBadBoy said:
His movement looked excellent because he was playing against a team called Lucas Moura

We'll see how he looks against good/decent opposition
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When I pointed out that Moura got 15 goals and two assists the other year, then he started to balance out with less goals but more assists.
19/20 he got 7 goals 5 assists
20/21 he got 9 goals 8 assists

It’s solid contribution when you consider he doesn’t even start every game. It was largely derided with the level of the opposition he provides against.

Yet someone is here wanking because Kane stunned some milkmen with three tap ins

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Guido said:
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I remember Kane used to always talk about leaving a legacy with us and how much he loved us. It's really sad what has happened. You look at his old interviews and it's all about the club and how much he loves playing for it. Now its all about breaking records or playing for England. He used to be genuinely so happy and passionate scoring goals for us now all he does is that shit kissing wedding ring celebration :(
 
Did the stadium tour a few weeks back and one of the sound bites on the audio guide was kane talking about how much he loves the club and what it means to him. Turned it off as was clearly horse shit. Even the club guy in the home dressing room was telling people to take pictures with kanes shirt because if you come back next year it won't be there. Such a shame. I was happy for the goals on Thursday but not for him.
 
Norfolkspur said:
Did the stadium tour a few weeks back and one of the sound bites on the audio guide was kane talking about how much he loves the club and what it means to him. Turned it off as was clearly horse shit. Even the club guy in the home dressing room was telling people to take pictures with kanes shirt because if you come back next year it won't be there. Such a shame. I was happy for the goals on Thursday but not for him.
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Perhaps he's right, perhaps no;, but on aside note that guy ought to wind his neck in.
 
Norfolkspur said:
Did the stadium tour a few weeks back and one of the sound bites on the audio guide was kane talking about how much he loves the club and what it means to him. Turned it off as was clearly horse shit. Even the club guy in the home dressing room was telling people to take pictures with kanes shirt because if you come back next year it won't be there. Such a shame. I was happy for the goals on Thursday but not for him.
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I just really wish he'd gone about it all in a much more respectful manner. I don't blame him for wanting out, under Levy/ENIC we're going nowhere and he's headed towards 30, but he put himself in this situation by signing a silly contract. Accept responsibility, make it clear you do want to go but do your job, Levy will cash in next summer anyway.

It could've been so much smoother. Most fans I knew understood why he wanted to go. But then he struts about on a golf course with Gary Neville and doesn't turn up for training. He managed to turn the entire fanbase (who were mostly blaming Levy) against him in a summer.
 
Mrs Perryman said:
Of course I was happy to see him score and taking up the positions to enable him to do so - I was just being flippant :)
Having said that, and as I mentioned in the match thread, I hope he keeps it up against Villa.
I want him to be on top of his game because it will be for the benefit of the team. However, I now have no interest in his own personal records that he may achieve. I'm not going to apologise for how I feel towards him, he brought that on himself.
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Agree Mrs Perryman Mrs Perryman

It's shown Kane's desire to break records is and probably always was about individual glory, not the club. Given the suspicion against Levy/ENIC from virtually everyone nowadays he probably still could have come out of this with a good reputation: instead he decided to play a round of golf with Gary Neville, down tools and refuse to train and issue a BS statement where he remarked on his annoyance with his professionalism being questioned but said nothing about the fans.

It's very sad.
 
iz futbal said:
While kane has been shite, we didnt win the first 3 games because we played well or anything. A lot of luck was needed. A cross that went in, a penalty, and mancity missing chances. Cant survive on luck all season.
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Wow. Its amazing how this works.

Spurs win 3 straight PL games, mostly without Kane, it was luck. Spurs lose 3 straight with Kane, it's because we suck.

Spurs get to CL finals, mostly without Kane, it was luck. Spurs lose in finals with Kane, it's because we suck.

Kane most goals, most assist in PL last season, its because Kane is the best.

Kane no goals, no assists in PL this season, its because no service and we suck. Meanwhile, its mostly the same team.
 
The Kane Haterz are out in their numbers wow!!!! What I find most interesting also the lies when are losing everybody was cursing Kane said he was jogging about so i don't know what ndom bad boy sammy spurs and spurs since 2012 talking about every spurs page i went on they were trolling Kane. He is not above criticism for sure but ndom bad boy is obsessed and is obsessed with everyone jumping on his bandwagon while trolling everyone else calling us fanboys, while he is wanking off at every tanguy video on youtube.

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jonomarch said:
The Kane Haterz are out in their numbers wow!!!! What I find most interesting also the lies when are losing everybody was cursing Kane said he was jogging about so i don't know what ndom bad boy sammy spurs and spurs since 2012 talking about every spurs page i went on they were trolling Kane. He is not above criticism for sure but ndom bad boy is obsessed and is obsessed with everyone jumping on his bandwagon while trolling everyone else calling us fanboys, while he is wanking off at every tanguy video on youtube.

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I was very pro Kane until that interview and spoilt brat antics afterwards

Now I hope we get rid in January
 
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