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Simple question, if I come to you and offer you £500,000 a week to play football at my club and your currently earning £100,000 and City also come in for you but offer you £250,000 a week. But my changing rooms and training ground aren't quite so glitzy which you are you taking?Totally disagree with this.
One of the biggest legitimate complaints laid at the door of Ashley is that he didn't invest at all in Newcastle's infrastructure. Not a penny has been spent on the stadium in nearly 30yrs and their training ground is one of the worst in not just PL but Championship too!
Their fans have been non-stop complaining about this state of affairs too, so it's rubbish to say they "don't give a shit" when evidence to the complete opposite exits.
Those "top players" that they will want to bring in are also being courted by PSG, Man City, Liverpool, Man U, Chelsea, Real Madrid. The next tier down of Spurs, Juventus, Woolwich, Bayern (I've put Bayern in this tier and not above because all they seem to do is take from other Bundesliga Clubs like Dortmund and now RB), Barca(??), Dortmund. Every single one of these Clubs has established elite infrastructure from the stadium to training grounds.
So, if you are a player looking to play for an elite club now Newcastle sure as hell ain't the club you will be choosing. In fact, if you were say Saint-Maximin at Newcastle now and anyone of those Clubs came in for you you would be off like a shot (even if wages were matched). Why would he stick around for a project that will take a decade to come to fruition when the possibility of joining an elite or 2nd their elite club now? A footballers career is a short one.
Also, none of these Clubs are going anywhere. City is a good example to look at, they have laid the groundwork for the revenues to stream in, an academy that's established and a worldwide club network for players to be transferred between their franchises etc. This has taken 13yrs and we've yet to see the true benefit of that infrastructure kick in yet (maybe Foden and Sancho are the two successes of the academy and they couldn't hold onto Sancho).
But however you look at this they absolutely have to build an infrasture that enables them to compete with PSG, City and the rest because that's the reality that they will be facing when fighting over the same players and this is even assuming that Newcastle is at a comparable level and the player is making his mid up over what team will give him his best prospects.
What is the unique selling point that Newcastle offers the players/coaches that they wouldn't get at all those other Clubs mentioned?
People thinking that this is going to happen in 3yrs are getting totally carried away with this circus, it took City 6yrs to win PL part of this was accelerated by the infrastructure that was put in place, a new stadium (paid for by the taxpayer) & a brand new academy and an investment of approx £1.5b to underpin it all. (It's been 9yrs since the Qatari's took over PSG and like City haven't won a CL yet, they've dominated the domestic league because there's no competition to them unlike there is in PL).
If it was me I would go to City. Infrastructure is key. Location location location.Simple question, if I come to you and offer you £500,000 a week to play football at my club and your currently earning £100,000 and City also come in for you but offer you £250,000 a week. But my changing rooms and training ground aren't quite so glitzy which you are you taking?
Also these new owners want to win titles they are ambitious, they want to make Newcastle the biggest club on the planet. So they will be buying 5 or 6 players and offering them all insane wages and telling them all of their ambition.
They aren't going to be slowed down or inhibited by a lack of previous investment in infrastructure.
That's just wishful thinking.
The only thing that might slow them down a little is if they go down this season.
I think things like Training Ground/Stadium are only difference makers in attracting a player when everything else is pretty much equal between the bidders, if one was offering double the wages then 9 times out of 10 the player would go there.If it was me I would go to City. Infrastructure is key. Location location location.
You may attract one or two names that will overlook the shit infrastructure and slovenly training ground. But most players that operate in that price range are incredibly pampered and are expecting to be pampered at their new location as well. That includes a modern, world class training ground with all the recovery tools available to modern sports medicine.
Totally disagree with this.
One of the biggest legitimate complaints laid at the door of Ashley is that he didn't invest at all in Newcastle's infrastructure. Not a penny has been spent on the stadium in nearly 30yrs and their training ground is one of the worst in not just PL but Championship too!
Their fans have been non-stop complaining about this state of affairs too, so it's rubbish to say they "don't give a shit" when evidence to the complete opposite exits.
Those "top players" that they will want to bring in are also being courted by PSG, Man City, Liverpool, Man U, Chelsea, Real Madrid. The next tier down of Spurs, Juventus, Woolwich, Bayern (I've put Bayern in this tier and not above because all they seem to do is take from other Bundesliga Clubs like Dortmund and now RB), Barca(??), Dortmund. Every single one of these Clubs has established elite infrastructure from the stadium to training grounds.
So, if you are a player looking to play for an elite club now Newcastle sure as hell ain't the club you will be choosing. In fact, if you were say Saint-Maximin at Newcastle now and anyone of those Clubs came in for you you would be off like a shot (even if wages were matched). Why would he stick around for a project that will take a decade to come to fruition when the possibility of joining an elite or 2nd their elite club now? A footballers career is a short one.
Also, none of these Clubs are going anywhere. City is a good example to look at, they have laid the groundwork for the revenues to stream in, an academy that's established and a worldwide club network for players to be transferred between their franchises etc. This has taken 13yrs and we've yet to see the true benefit of that infrastructure kick in yet (maybe Foden and Sancho are the two successes of the academy and they couldn't hold onto Sancho).
But however you look at this they absolutely have to build an infrasture that enables them to compete with PSG, City and the rest because that's the reality that they will be facing when fighting over the same players and this is even assuming that Newcastle is at a comparable level and the player is making his mid up over what team will give him his best prospects.
What is the unique selling point that Newcastle offers the players/coaches that they wouldn't get at all those other Clubs mentioned?
People thinking that this is going to happen in 3yrs are getting totally carried away with this circus, it took City 6yrs to win PL part of this was accelerated by the infrastructure that was put in place, a new stadium (paid for by the taxpayer) & a brand new academy and an investment of approx £1.5b to underpin it all. (It's been 9yrs since the Qatari's took over PSG and like City haven't won a CL yet, they've dominated the domestic league because there's no competition to them unlike there is in PL).
It was 6yrs before City won the league and that was during a time where Utd had just dropped off as Fergie was no longer manager (Utd had had pretty much a clear run to their last handful of titles with the only challenger being Chelsea).
They now have to compete with City, Liverpool, Chelsea all capable of winning the league. In addition, there is Utd who's revenue will always make them relevant within the discussion, they actually have the squad but lack a readable manager, it would be a shock if OGS remains manager beyond this season if they fail to win anything. These clubs aren't going anywhere, year on year they are getting stronger and stronger (or more powerful within the football ecosystem however it is dissected and analysed).
Whilst Spurs are outsiders to this party the revenue stream that's been built does put us back in the frame as a giant hurdle that have to be negotiated, we require a decent manager to make us perform better than the sum of our parts but within the time frame, you mention a CL place is entirely possible for us which as it's rare that Chavs, Liverpool, City and Man U are all competitive at the same time as at least one of those is usually having a poor season/and/or a transitional one. The revenue that we generate from the stadium (assuming a full season and other events) is equal to us getting into CL qualification.
We've seen constantly now that even if one of those teams has an absolute cluster fuck they don't go away, that they for all of the media talk of "disaster" they are still finishing 6th/7th/8th ready to go again the next year and rich enough to hire a has been manager paying him 3rd highest salary in the world and spunk £150m on new signings.
Assuming they are in it for the long haul then I think it will be closer to 15-20yrs before they are seriously challenging for a PL title (it will take a rare event of all of the big 6 simultaneously not performing to expectation and them to have a good and well-managed team for them to achieve win PL within 15-20yrs).
In the Daily Mail today it sounds like Lampard doesn't fancy the job. Running out of options already, probably the reason Bruce hasn't been sacked yet.
It's a tricky one..... Very few will want to sign up for a relegation battle apart from a so-called 'relegation specialist' or someone with no rep to gamble with.
It's almost as if a short-termist solution is all they have... e.g. Get Fat Sam on a huge bonus incentive and give him whatever trf dosh he wants and burn it knowing that they'll all have to be replaced over the next 12 months anyway.
It's a tricky one..... Very few will want to sign up for a relegation battle apart from a so-called 'relegation specialist' or someone with no rep to gamble with.
It's almost as if a short-termist solution is all they have... e.g. Get Fat Sam on a huge bonus incentive and give him whatever trf dosh he wants and burn it knowing that they'll all have to be replaced over the next 12 months anyway.
The size of that head, it will take 2 people to do it.If Newcastle lose there next few games does that mean Steve Bruce will be beheaded lol
Sorry mate you are just making up stuff, what you claim isn't substantiated as a) happened b) going to happen.Simple question, if I come to you and offer you £500,000 a week to play football at my club and your currently earning £100,000 and City also come in for you but offer you £250,000 a week. But my changing rooms and training ground aren't quite so glitzy which you are you taking?
Also these new owners want to win titles they are ambitious, they want to make Newcastle the biggest club on the planet. So they will be buying 5 or 6 players and offering them all insane wages and telling them all of their ambition.
They aren't going to be slowed down or inhibited by a lack of previous investment in infrastructure.
That's just wishful thinking.
The only thing that might slow them down a little is if they go down this season.
Ashley should be lauded as an idiot savant by Newcastle fans. He has prepared them perfectly for oil club lifeJust seen it posted elsewhere that because Ashley underinvested for years, they are in credit, so to speak with FFP, so are free to splash a bit of cash without risk.
Oh what joy ...