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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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Raumdeuterz said:
You've used exactly zero stats which disprove my point. Well done, you must feel very clever.

Liverpool weren't very good in that final. But the penalty goal allowed them to have something to sit on, and had it not been scored those jitters you mention would have been made far worse. You'd expect the team chasing a goal in a final to have more possession, shots etc, and Liverpool's pass accuracy is often low because they go long regularly and bypass the midfield.

The tone was set means they were able to look at our team and say 'go on, score' but we were incapable of putting together real threatening situations on a regular basis. Blame Kane for that all you like, others were equally rubbish in those situations on the day.

I never said we weren't in the game, silly. There's no need to make stuff up. What I said was that a poor mistake gave Liverpool a platform from which they could play not particularly well, but still win due to an excellent backline.

And regardless of any of that, you still need to get a grip making baseless accusations about a player lying to medical staff who have state of the art technology. You have an agenda. Sometimes you make genuine points, other times you're clearly just looking to attack a player you're not a fan of.
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Watch the review I posted from two experts directly after the game.
It’s how I remember it two and half years on.

Your version is fake, it’s fantasy and it’s been created to defend the decision to play Kane and his performance

I’m not going to argue with a flat earther

You’re wrong
 
Raumdeuterz said:
You've used exactly zero stats which disprove my point. Well done, you must feel very clever.

Liverpool weren't very good in that final. But the penalty goal allowed them to have something to sit on, and had it not been scored those jitters you mention would have been made far worse. You'd expect the team chasing a goal in a final to have more possession, shots etc, and Liverpool's pass accuracy is often low because they go long regularly and bypass the midfield.

The tone was set means they were able to look at our team and say 'go on, score' but we were incapable of putting together real threatening situations on a regular basis. Blame Kane for that all you like, others were equally rubbish in those situations on the day.

I never said we weren't in the game, silly. There's no need to make stuff up. What I said was that a poor mistake gave Liverpool a platform from which they could play not particularly well, but still win due to an excellent backline.

And regardless of any of that, you still need to get a grip making baseless accusations about a player lying to medical staff who have state of the art technology. You have an agenda. Sometimes you make genuine points, other times you're clearly just looking to attack a player you're not a fan of.
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If my team had an Allison, Virgil, Fabinho spine I’d sit too and leave space for Mane & Salah. Common sense

You know what the most annoying thing about the Kane narrative is?

Klopp did exactly the same thing with Firmino! Never mind Origi scored twice vs Barca to get them through, he was benched just like Lucas was.

Firmino was undercooked too, he was actually the worst attacker on the pitch, and was hooked after 59 minutes.

But narratives eh?
 
Airfixx said:
Well, as per a shit tonne of your posts he wasn't fit..... Ergo that's a distorted, worthless statement.
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He’s been as shit in big games his entire career for club and country and despite scoring 28 goals in the EL, and against the bottom 10 plus Stone last season, was pretty average too.

He’s been absolute shit for every minute he’s played in the PL and for England since September was crap in the Euros (oh look another final) and you’d drop him for Ings.

So unfortunately him being unfit in the final just showed his selfishness and the clubs incompetence, as opposed to justifying his no show.

He’s not a big game player you see.

Now, as someone who thinks he WAS fit, what’s yours explanation?
There’s a good breakdown I posted which refutes the lie that he didn’t have anything behind him.
 
sammyspurs said:
He’s been as shit in big games his entire career for club and country and despite scoring 28 goals in the EL, and against the bottom 10 plus Stone last season, was pretty average too.

He’s been absolute shit for every minute he’s played in the PL and for England since September was crap in the Euros (oh look another final) and you’d drop him for Ings.
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You said that; not me. Lies.

sammyspurs said:
So unfortunately him being unfit in the final just showed his selfishness and the clubs incompetence, as opposed to justifying his no show.

He’s not a big game player you see.

Now, as someone who thinks he WAS fit, what’s yours explanation?
There’s a good breakdown I posted which refutes the lie that he didn’t have anything behind him.
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Nah, didn't say he was fully fit..... More lies.
 
TeamSpirit™ said:
If my team had an Allison, Virgil, Fabinho spine I’d sit too and leave space for Mane & Salah. Common sense

You know what the most annoying thing about the Kane narrative is?

Klopp did exactly the same thing with Firmino! Never mind Origi scored twice vs Barca to get them through, he was benched just like Lucas was.

Firmino was undercooked too, he was actually the worst attacker on the pitch, and was hooked after 59 minutes.

But narratives eh?
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It’s not a narrative.
Just good every single review of Kane’s performance that night and let me know when a “fake narrative” starts to sink in as what actually happened

You should have just watched the game
 
sammyspurs said:
It’s not a narrative.
Just good every single review of Kane’s performance that night and let me know when a “fake narrative” starts to sink in as what actually happened

You should have just watched the game
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The narrative is he ruined Our chance of winning by being rushed back.

Firmino was in a very similar position leading up to the game, and put up a even worse performance, and got hooked. His team won though so it gets overlooked.

Results dictate narrative, that’s why this forum thought a shitebag like Nuno was brilliant after just 3 games.
 
sammyspurs said:
Watch the review I posted from two experts directly after the game.
It’s how I remember it two and half years on.

Your version is fake, it’s fantasy and it’s been created to defend the decision to play Kane and his performance

I’m not going to argue with a flat earther

You’re wrong
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Dear god, I'll say it again. Get a grip.

I have no interest in 'defending' Kane's performance. He was rubbish, and should have been substituted. Unlike you I don't have an agenda about this topic, if Kane leaves in january or the summer I'll feel very little. If you think showing me a clip of Steve Nicol talking about a game means everybody else should just quit their analysis on the spot though, you're having a laugh.

I don't know what is fake or fantasy about stating that going 1-0 down vs a great defensive side who are happy to play on the break probably wasn't great for us. You seem to have interpreted this as 'we never stood a snowball's chance and my favourite player Harry Kane was blameless'. I don't know why. I think starting Kane was probably an error, I just have my doubts the alternatives would have won us the game.

You're welcome to disagree .. but pretending that take is comparable to being a 'flat earther' is laughable.
 
Raumdeuterz said:
The bold is down to the medical team to decide. They will have ran extensive fitness tests when Kane returned. He would have trained, and if he looked off the pace then Pochettino/the coaching staff could have seen that and acted.

Blame them if you want, not the player. The likelihood is he felt absolutely fine but then lacked sharpness for such a huge game, and lacking a little bit of sharpness will always cost you up against a monster like Van Djik.
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We’ll have to agree to disagree but I believe Kane knew that he wasn’t fit enough but hoped that he would get away with it and fooled Poch
 
Airfixx said:
Look; if you were against him being our manager you can bet you were far from the only one.... .To think you were exclusive in that is rather conceited.
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I deffo wasn’t the only one but a huge portion of this fanbase got swept up in the Mourinho hysteria.

I’m just glad it’s over and honestly I’d like to pretend his reign never happened.

Shame we’ve selected his footballing equivalent of a Godson to move forward with but he’s essentially a glorified caretaker with his contract.
 
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