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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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todd1882 said:
Not true. Verbal agreements are just as binding as those that are written. The problem isn't the validity of the agreement. The problem is getting dishonest cunts to fess up to what they agreed to and that's why you write it down. So, not a nonsense.
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Not true. It is definitely a nonsense. Kindly stop giving me your little disagrees, and quoting me before I sue yo ass for harassment. Online harassment is still harassment.

I'm fucking busy. Make a goddamn appointment if you want my attention, sunshine. My time isn't free!


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cretinousgoat said:
Nope. You failed.

Nice try though :)
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See there? This is the type of intransigence that got us into this situation isn't it? I send you a nice reasonable offer and you won't negotiate. Are you Levy in disguise?

Also, you didn't answer my question about sucking Levy's balls in the summer for keeping Kane. Where'd you fall on that one my dear Goat? Oh I'm pretty sure I know but I just want you to say it. And make sure you say it loud so they can hear you in the back. :sonpoint:
 
todd1882 said:
See there? This is the type of intransigence that got us into this situation isn't it? I send you a nice reasonable offer and you won't negotiate. Are you Levy in disguise?

Also, you didn't answer my question about sucking Levy's balls in the summer for keeping Kane. Where'd you fall on that one my dear Goat? Oh I'm pretty sure I know but I just want you to say it. And make sure you say it loud so they can hear you in the back. :sonpoint:
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Ok I'll admit you made me laugh. You can have my time for free.
 
rusty said:
said it earlier in thread, if i worked for a boss who agreed i could have longer holiday then said i had to come back to work, & agreed i could leave then doubled the price i would be cheesed off and not be at my best
If that's what happened how can we blame Kane ?
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Doubled what price? Even if City had offered £130m (which there is no suggestion that they did), are you seriously suggesting that Levy told Kane he would be allowed to leave for £65m? I guess there are a few possibilities:

1. Levy told Kane he could leave for 'proper market value' or words to that effect, in which case that's worthless even as a gentleman's agreement because the value has no definition.
2. Levy told Kane he could go for (say) £130m - but no one offered that.
3. Levy told Kane he could go for (say) £65m / any price offered. Firstly, I don't believe for a second that Levy would have said that, and secondly even if he did, Harry would have to be insane to believe it, given what we have all known about Levy for many years.

So I'm not sure what your accusation that Levy 'doubled the price' actually means. ???
 
Just reading PEH was screaming at Kane to press when he was standing off. Nice that someone is afraid of him. I’m hoping the locker room forces Nuno to sit him.
 
iz futbal said:
Of course we have no evidence . But knowing levy, its easier to take the word of multiple other people.
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I've said aksed all summer with next to no reply but; if Kane's camp genuinely feel blagged then why have they never divulge specifically what this "Gentleman's agreement" actually was.....? Unless it was, at best, a very vague contentious thing all along?

"We will sell you on the cheap if and when you want to leave"

.....Blatantly won't be what was agreed.

Even Kane himself said he was worth at least 100m.



Btw, what was the lie that Modric was told (as per your earlier claim)?

As far as I was aware he was told "not Chelsea"; reluctantly accepted this, got his head down the following season and earned himself a move to RM and won multiple champions leagues and La Ligas.

Bale was pretty much the same scenario too. Another thing I've asked multiple times (in reference to how everyone 'knew' Kane would down tools); why would we expect Kane of all players to behave less professionally that these two?
 
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scarletjim said:
Doubled what price? Even if City had offered £130m (which there is no suggestion that they did), are you seriously suggesting that Levy told Kane he would be allowed to leave for £65m? I guess there are a few possibilities:

1. Levy told Kane he could leave for 'proper market value' or words to that effect, in which case that's worthless even as a gentleman's agreement because the value has no definition.
2. Levy told Kane he could go for (say) £130m - but no one offered that.
3. Levy told Kane he could go for (say) £65m / any price offered. Firstly, I don't believe for a second that Levy would have said that, and secondly even if he did, Harry would have to be insane to believe it, given what we have all known about Levy for many years.

So I'm not sure what your accusation that Levy 'doubled the price' actually means. ???
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Sorry I should not have used the "Doubled" because as you say no one knows what/if Levy and Kane had an agreement

Kane has been a super player for us, (not a great player) and now when he's not playing well many folks on here are slagging him off
all i was doing we trying to put a reason why he may be playing poorly
unlike most of us Kane is a multi millionaire so he doesn't have to swallow when the boss cheese's him off
 
Imagine being a football player and getting to play for the club you’ve supported your whole life…

While making 200 THOUSAND pounds PER WEEK!!!

And still not giving 100% effort.

Some Footballers seriously need to realise how ridiculously lucky they are.
 
rusty said:
Sorry I should not have used the "Doubled" because as you say no one knows what/if Levy and Kane had an agreement

Kane has been a super player for us, (not a great player) and now when he's not playing well many folks on here are slagging him off
all i was doing we trying to put a reason why he may be playing poorly
unlike most of us Kane is a multi millionaire so he doesn't have to swallow when the boss cheese's him off
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Well, financially he doesn't have to swallow it, but if he cares about his career then he might have to...

As I said, we will probably never know what was agreed (indeed I've yet to hear from Kane's camp even what they claim was agreed, which is a bit suspicious), but surely we all agree it's almost impossible that Levy would have promised Kane could leave on the cheap, so that being the case, surely if anything Kane should be pissed off with City for not putting in a sensible offer.

But yes of course we're all interested in why exactly he's playing so badly, and it may be more subtle than the black and white answers that people often offer on here. For example:
  • He may have consciously downed tools due to being pissed off with Levy - possible but seems too simplistic and unlikely for me.
  • He may be disappointed (with or without blaming anyone) and so sub-consciously not have his mind in the right place, not be training so well etc. For me this seems most likely.
  • It could of course be at least in part down to other factors. He has a young family, I know he's not the only footballer in that situation, but all kids are different, who knows how much impact that has on his form (not just now, but over the last few years, perhaps this was part of the reason for his bad patches), particularly when he's already in a bad place mentally because of the failed transfer.
For me the middle one seems most likely, and if so then god knows what he or anyone else can do about that. The easy / obvious answer is for him to pick himself up, be determined to get back to his best, and get his transfer next summer that way - but whilst that's easy enough to say, it's not so easy to do, mindset is a funny thing, and demotivation (justified or not) can be very difficult to reverse. :(

EDIT: Might be wishing thinking, but I wonder if Levy offered him tomorrow a written contract saying that if his combined goals & assists is over 40 at the end of the season (or whatever) then he can leave for £100m, and if Kane absolutely smashes it then someone might well pay it (presumably City or United), I wonder if that would motivate him to play better, put his mind in a better place, give him something to work towards, and basically be a win-win for everyone...
 
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iz futbal said:
Kanes played a blinder over the summer.

Kane "Sell me , I want to go"
Levy "okay , i want good money"
Kane "look at this 75+25 = 100 million, thats good money!"
Levy " oh but i want 160 million"
Kane " What? thats crazy, we had an agreement"
Levy " Fuck the agreement, I have you by the balls, look at this contract"
Kane (in his mind) " You go back on agreement, I go back on contract, watch as I play so shit, no one will even pay the 75+25 = 100 fucking million, that you are getting right now, you dumb bald cunt"

Maybe thats not how things went, but its looking more and more like it. Or maybe hes just not happy and unmotivated. Either way, forcibly keeping him has backfired....like expected.
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100 million is not enough money for Kane. Grealish went for 100m and he’s half the player Kane is.
 
The Romanian Jack said:
100 million is not enough money for Kane. Grealish went for 100m and he’s half the player Kane is.
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TIts not that simple though is it. Messi is better than Mbappe, but youd pay more for Mbappe. Age is a thing as is resale price if things go wrong.

If both Kane and Grealish were great upto the age of 30. Theyd get 4 years out of Grealish and 2 out of Kane(if lucky). You have to divide that transfer fee by the years they will get out of him. If they sold grealish in 3 years at the age of 29, theyd get more money for Grealish than whatever a 31 year old kane looks like.
 
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It's important to remember Grealish forced a release fee in to his contract. Villa's owner came out and said they would not have sold him for 100m if they had any choice in the matter, and they tried to get him to stay when City activated the clause.
 
Airfixx said:
I've said aksed all summer with next to no reply but; if Kane's camp genuinely feel blagged then why have they never divulge specifically what this "Gentleman's agreement" actually was.....? Unless it was, at best, a very vague contentious thing all along?

"We will sell you on the cheap if and when you want to leave"

.....Blatantly won't be what was agreed.

Even Kane himself said he was worth at least 100m.



Btw, what was the lie that Modric was told (as per your earlier claim)?

As far as I was aware he was told "not Chelsea"; reluctantly accepted this, got his head down the following season and earned himself a move to RM and won multiple champions leagues and La Ligas.

Bale was pretty much the same scenario too. Another thing I've asked multiple times (in reference to how everyone 'knew' Kane would down tools); why would we expect Kane of all players to behave less professionally that these two?
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Modric said this of levy

"However, I resented him because on a couple of occasions he had promised to let me move to a bigger club and then broke his promise. For me, one’s promise and one’s word are more important than anything. "

Obviously he feels like he was lied to.

Oh and as for how would we know if Kane would down tools because Modric didnt. Thats because Kane's 28 and nearing his expiry date and not won a thing in his life. He might have missed his chance for a big move. And if he does wel enough that levy wont budge from whatever number he has in his mind, he wont be going anywhere. Modric was 26 and had 2 more years on his side. Its not all hindsight. Some people did bring that up before as well.
 
I think there is universal agreement on here that Kane is playing crap. However is it deliberate, permanent, or just in his mind and he will get over it. The biggest problem is our lack of options both now and as always in a January Window the best players simply are not available.
We therefore have to persevere and keep on playing him. Bergwijn is worse.
We cannot reward him by selling him in January even if any offers come in. We just will not get a suitable replacement.
He must be told he is here to the summer and if he carries on like this, not only is he losing supporter support and ruining his reputation, he actually is putting any future transfer to a top team at risk and his England place. I doubt any CL team in this Country will want to buy him unless he actually starts performing.
 
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