Transfers January 2022 - Transfer Window

[YidZecke]

I really would like Spurs to sign Joško Gvardiol as LCB. He won't come cheap but Spurs could have a LCB for the next 12-14 years if they managed to sign him.

Joško Gvardiol - FC 25 - Apr 22, 2025 | SoFIFA

Joško Gvardiol (born 23 January 2002) is a Croatian footballer who plays as a left back for British club Manchester City, and the Croatia national team. In the game FC 25, his overall rating is 84.

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Josko Gvardiol : Scouting Report

Josko Gvardiol’s name has gained immense value in recent months and weeks leading upto the EURO tournament. He started his youth career aged only 7 with Zagreb-based sports club NK Tresnjevka. Two years later, the native received an offer from Dinamo Zagreb - as a teenage boy.He began his career...

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His name was cracking me up when I first saw his name. Pep is an abreviation for Joško.

 

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Do you think Watford is any stronger this season with Højbjerg instead of Sissoko?

Impossible to answer either way, but...

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They'd be stronger if they just played with 10 men and left Sissoko in the car park to point people into their parking spaces.

 

[Château NoHo]

Yet.... Ndombele & GLC.



Bale has next to nothing to do with this.......

(Besides, the stats role-tint things... He played his way out of contention as much as he played his way into the starting XI on a couple of occasions).



Yet, on reflection they WEREN'T the guys.... The armchair scouts here got it wrong; so what?

Perhaps if one or both of them would had delivered on our investment in them, then maybe they'd have been able to keep the so-called inferior PEH out of the team.

It's funny; you make play the "4 managers" card, yet those same 4 managers thought "fuck TN & GLC"........ There's a "cake and eat it" dynamic to your argument.

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Disagree on Bale's stats last season being insignificant or an outlier (0 PL penalties), but I think the bolded section is the crux of the disagreement.

I'm just waiting for PEH to play his way out of contention (I'd argue he already has last season many times over.)

Maybe he gets a pass if we squeak into 4th, or 5th, or 6th last season, but the argument that he's somehow keeping it all together or whatever and that we'd be screwed without him is poppycock.

 

[RESPECT THE COCK]

As it was, we actually finished even lower last year than the previous year. Hojbjerg hardly catapulted our midfield into being good. He was pretty gash for much of 2021.

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What's the matter with you? They promised us he was the missing piece and they were not wrong. With him on board, we didn't just challenge for the league title. We won it. And we did it in tremendous fucking style.

 

[Airfixx]

Even if that means 7th place?

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So let's get this straight and simple..... The drop-off in our midfield from 19/20 is nothing to do with the 100m we spent to replace Eriksen & Dembele being a bust; it's the 15m guy we bought to help carry grit and work-rate that the 2 over-hyped, over-priced powder-puffs lack?

Even now we have Skipp for the more trad. DM/#6 role and they still can't oust PEH?

That's their failure; not that of PEH.

Where was that pointed out?

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Within a few posts of your original post..... Links were provided.

Even the source you provided (TM) contradicts you.

My opinion, or the failure of Ndombele and Lo Celso to establish themselves does not let Hojbjerg off the hook for his deficiencies.

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No-one's arguing that they do... BUT PEH not being a twinkle-toes hipster player doesn't get TN & GLC off the hook for their blatant deficiencies.

Hojbjerg was not 15m.

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He was.

PEH: 15m
KWP: 12m

.......Net cost 3m.

Buy poor players, decline. Sissoko definitely contributed to that. Never said he was the only reason. Far from it. we made a bunch of bad recruitment choices going back the last 5/6 years.

Hojbjerg was an improvement on Sissoko for sure, but he isn't great at anything.

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Again; you're swerving the original context of the debate.

PEH has proven better VFM than TN & GLC.

.......Arguing otherwise is just your Sissoko snobbery all over again.

 

[Airfixx]

Disagree on Bale's stats last season being insignificant or an outlier (0 PL penalties), but I think the bolded section is the crux of the disagreement.

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The point I made was I don't see his relevance to the PEH discussion that you brought him into. I still don't.

You disagree with the bolded part; but his performance in the WHL NLD is the perfect testament to my comment.

I'm just waiting for PEH to play his way out of contention (I'd argue he already has last season many times over.)

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That's funny cos I'm waiting for the 2 so-called technically superior MFs we bought at VAST cost to play their way INTO the team at his expense.

As I just said to Blakey; we have Skip at DM now, but still both Nuno & Conte think "nah, fuck them"......

Absolutely gutted, but there we are.

Maybe he gets a pass if we squeak into 4th, or 5th, or 6th last season, but the argument that he's somehow keeping it all together or whatever and that we'd be screwed without him is poppycock.

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I think they call this "strawmanning".....

Go back to post #1 and remind yourself of the debate here:

Who was better VFM?

PEH or TN & GLC

Only football snobbery would argue that it's not PEH.

 

[Château NoHo]

So let's get this straight and simple..... The drop-off in our midfield from 19/20 is nothing to do with the 100m we spent to replace Eriksen & Dembele being a bust; it's the 15m guy we bought to help carry grit and work-rate that the 2 over-hyped, over-priced powder-puffs lack?

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How many matches have Ndombele and Lo Celso even played together in midfield?

Even now we have Skipp for the more trad. DM/#6 role and they still can't oust PEH?

That's their failure; not that of PEH.

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I'd argue it's the managers' failures, not the players (who have barely played).
Every manager has their biases and their guys. Ndombele and Lo Celso were brought in under Poch.
We've had 2 in a row now that have been shown the door ride or dying with PEH.

 

[For better or worse]

Spend big!!! That fn twat levy won't spend until we sell, and he won't sell the duds he bought because the useless unkle fester cnt thinks he can get the money back.... Who would buy sanchez for 40? Bergwyn for 30 Ndombullshit for 55.... Newcastle hopefully, but I doubt it.

We desperately need need a MFr who can pass run and just make things happen. That's either money or a brilliant DoF....

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Selling sissoko for 3.5m and letting aurier leave for free kinda destroys part of your argument

 

[Airfixx]

How many matches have Ndombele and Lo Celso even played together in midfield?

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What's "together" got to do with anything that's been said until now?

They're 3 seasons and 5 managers deep yet neither have managed to nail a starting spot.

I'd argue it's the managers' failures, not the players (who have barely played).
Every manager has their biases and their guys. Ndombele and Lo Celso were brought in under Poch.
We've had 2 in a row now that have been shown the door ride or dying with PEH.

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LOL .......I get that it's a tough pill to swallow, but the excuses are all used up.

Can't you see the shittier you think PEH is, it's just all the more of a sad indictment of TN & GLC.

 

[Château NoHo]

The point I made was I don't see his relevance to the PEH discussion that you brought him into. I still don't.

You disagree with the bolded part; but his performance in the WHL NLD is the perfect testament to my comment.

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The point I'm making is that I don't care if you don't see relevance about an unprovable argument...
We finished 7th with PEH playing every single minute of every single match... more than Ndombele and Lo Celso combined. That's on the managers.

Bale goals directly won 5 matches last season (vs Brighton, vs Burnley, vs Palace (2), vs SheffUtd (3), vs Leicester (2).

We only lost twice when he played more than 60 minutes (@ Brighton 0-1 + @ Leeds 1-3), and his 1.27 G+A-PK/90 over 900 minutes is absolutely incredible.

That's funny cos I'm waiting for the 2 so-called technically superior MFs we bought at VAST cost to play their way INTO the team at his expense.

As I just said to Blakey; we have Skip at DM now, but still both Nuno & Conte think "nah, fuck them"......

Absolutely gutted, but there we are.



I think they call this "strawmanning".....

Go back to post #1 and remind yourself of the debate here:

Who was better VFM?

PEH or TN & GLC

Only football snobbery would argue that it's not PEH.

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What's the value in 7th place? Is that factor taken into consideration?

PEH plays > Ndombele + Lo Celso = 7th

 

[Château NoHo]

What's "together" got to do with anything that's been said until now?

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You brought up Dembele + Eriksen. I inferred that you meant Ndombele + Lo Celso were meant to be their like-for-like replacements.

They're 3 seasons and 5 managers deep yet neither have managed to nail a starting spot.

LOL .......I get that it's a tough pill to swallow, but the excuses are all used up.

Can't you see the shittier you think PEH is, it's just all the more of a sad indictment of TN & GLC.

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I think it's an indictment of the previous managers.

Argentina just won their first trophy since 1993 with Lo Celso in the midfield.

 

[Château NoHo]

Buy poor players, decline. Sissoko definitely contributed to that. Never said he was the only reason. Far from it. we made a bunch of bad recruitment choices going back the last 5/6 years.

Hojbjerg was an improvement on Sissoko for sure, but he isn't great at anything.

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Sissoko-Winks was our midfield throughout our 19/20 CL run...

Discuss amongst yourselves...

 

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So let's get this straight and simple..... The drop-off in our midfield from 19/20 is nothing to do with the 100m we spent to replace Eriksen & Dembele being a bust; it's the 15m guy we bought to help carry grit and work-rate that the 2 over-hyped, over-priced powder-puffs lack?

Even now we have Skipp for the more trad. DM/#6 role and they still can't oust PEH?

That's their failure; not that of PEH.



Within a few posts of your original post..... Links were provided.

Even the source you provided (TM) contradicts you.



No-one's arguing that they do... BUT PEH not being a twinkle-toes hipster player doesn't get TN & GLC off the hook for their blatant deficiencies.



He was.

PEH: 15m
KWP: 12m

.......Net cost 3m.



Again; you're swerving the original context of the debate.

PEH has proven better VFM than TN & GLC.

.......Arguing otherwise is just your Sissoko snobbery all over again.

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That wasn't the original context. The original context was someone saying Hojbjerg and Reguilon were money well spent and me disagreeing with that statement - but agreeing that money hadn't been well spent in general.

Can you link me to evidence that Hojbjerg's net cost was 3m?

 

[To Dare Is To Do.]

Can you link me to evidence that Hojbjerg's net cost was 3m?

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We bought Hojbjerg for £15m and sold KWP for £12m.

 

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They'd be stronger if they just played with 10 men and left Sissoko in the car park to point people into their parking spaces.

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He’d probably get that wrong too.

 

[Spursidol]

That wasn't the original context. The original context was someone saying Hojbjerg and Reguilon were money well spent and me disagreeing with that statement - but agreeing that money hadn't been well spent in general.

Can you link me to evidence that Hojbjerg's net cost was 3m?

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Spurs complete Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg deal as Kyle Walker-Peters joins Saints

Tottenham complete the signing of midfielder Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg from Southampton, with full-back Kyle Walker-Peters heading in the opposite direction.

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I recall it being said Hojbjerg being a net £3m (£15m Hojbjerg less £12m Walker-Peters), but BBC for example thinks its Hojbjerg closer to £20m ish and KWP £12m

So a net £8m ish

So 'cheap'

 

[To Dare Is To Do.]

Spurs complete Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg deal as Kyle Walker-Peters joins Saints

Tottenham complete the signing of midfielder Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg from Southampton, with full-back Kyle Walker-Peters heading in the opposite direction.

www.bbc.co.uk

I recall it being said Hojbjerg being a net £3m (£15m Hojbjerg less £12m Walker-Peters), but BBC for example thinks its Hojbjerg closer to £20m ish and KWP £12m

So a nwt £8m ish

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Oh fair my bad. I remember Alasdair Gold saying £15m and £12m

 

[sudoku]

I really, really hope the Aarons rumours are false.
He was shit v Sess and shit for the Ramsey goal last night.
(Just saw it on MOTD).

 

[Airfixx]

The point I'm making is that I don't care if you don't see relevance about an unprovable argument...
We finished 7th with PEH playing every single minute of every single match... more than Ndombele and Lo Celso combined. That's on the managers.

Bale goals directly won 5 matches last season (vs Brighton, vs Burnley, vs Palace (2), vs SheffUtd (3), vs Leicester (2).

We only lost twice when he played more than 60 minutes (@ Brighton 0-1 + @ Leeds 1-3), and his 1.27 G+A-PK/90 over 900 minutes is absolutely incredible.

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Sorry mate, still not got the foggiest idea what Bale has to do with any of this........

You're dropping Bale stats for no apparent reason.

What's the value in 7th place? Is that factor taken into consideration?

PEH plays > Ndombele + Lo Celso = 7th

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It's quite evident the problem is you and Blakey expect our 15m 'meat and potato' player to carry our MF.

You brought up Dembele + Eriksen. I inferred that you meant Ndombele + Lo Celso were meant to be their like-for-like replacements.

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Sure, but that doesn't stop either of them independently nailing down a spot ahead of the allegedly shite PEH......

I think it's an indictment of the previous managers.

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So it matters not one iota that they've under-whelmed over and over when they've played and displayed a lack of desire and/or ability to stay fit?

Whatever the shortcoming it's all on the mangers? ....Zero accountability for the players themselves?

Sorry, that's just blinkered excuse-ism.

Argentina just won their first trophy since 1993 with Lo Celso in the midfield.

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To be perfectly blunt... So f'n what!?!

We all know the cycle..... International break > mystery fitness issues > 1 or two cameo's for Spurs (typically 1 decent, 1 bad) > Back to Argentina... Rinse and repeat.

GLC 3 seasons / 53 EPL games / 2 goals / 3 assists.

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PEH 2 seasons / 52 EPL games / 4 goals / 5 assists.

Remind me again, which one is the limited so-called clogger and which one is the alleged 42m creative, attacking MF...... :roll:

 

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Can you link me to evidence that Hojbjerg's net cost was 3m?

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I already did in my initial reply to you earlier today.

If you want to fact check re-visit TM (which you yourself referenced; albeit incorrectly).

They claim:

PEH: 14.9m
KWP: 11.something.m

You adding on the cost of Doherty is gymnastic twaddle.