I'm painting a picture of the reality of our last PL season.
That's not what "reality" means.
You're merely making a projection.
Anyone can Captain Hindsight.
Only you are toying with hindsight here, my friend.
Fact: TN & GLC have
failed to establish themselves in this team under
five different managers.
Had we played PEH less and other players more, we may have had better results.
Right, so you're
not trading in "reality" afterall.... This is merely a theory of yours.
I put it to you that considering your'e not proposing a like for like replacement (i.e. PEH / Bale) that you're essentially proposing a major revamp of all our line-ups over the course of a season and to make staunch claims over what is rapidly becoming a pure fantasy scenario isn't a particularly realistic hill to choose to die on.
That's not up to them, that's up to the manager.
At this point your continued insistence that a player's performance, application, fitness, mentality and work-rate has no bearing over their destiny at a club frankly doesn't dignify further serious discussion.
The only thing we see eye-to-eye about here are some of Lo Celso's injuries. I disagree about having any inkling into any other human's desire (or lack thereof). People have biases, it's completely normal.
Frankly, if I were a player as talented as Ndombele, I'd be annoyed getting taken off at 70 minutes every match for whatever reason, whilst PEH goes 90 no matter what's the score or what's happening.
This has all been done to death..... (Go visit the Ndombele thread for a refresher.... Former managers confirming he has a dubious attitude.... Him expressing a desire to leave at least 3 times since he arrived... Him being visibly gassed after 45minutes etc etc. etc..... The evidence has mounted beyond mere unconscious bias.)
Not one, not two..... But 5 managers..... And more before he arrived here......
M-a-a-a-a-aa-y-b-e you're the one suffering from "bias" here, rather than the many proffesionals that actually work with him.
Gio.... Perhaps a different mind-set, but ultimately a very similar outcome; a meager contribution that falls way short of what is a) required and b) was expected.
What are their respective G+A/90 though? I'd imagine PEH has played considerably more minutes than Lo Celso.
Ultimately, I don't give a shit about PEHs G&A ratios.... Unlike GLC, he's not in the team with an expectancy to score and assist (in fact his entire first year was being played as a DM!). It's just a stinging indictment of Gio's lack of contribution that he is being out-scored and out-assisted be a player that his detractors would insist is far inferior and has been deployed with less attacking/creative responsibility.
Some might say there's this nebulous thing called form and it's a difficult thing to find when appearances are few and far between.
An honest appraisal however would concede that they've both had runs in the team (TN moreso than GLC thanks to injury, granted)......
An honest appraisal would also say you have to earn your starts on the training field and not merely coast along on the basis of how good you (or the fans)
think you are.
Paid to train yadda yadda....
This wouldn't even be a discussion if we were good with PEH as a 90/24/7/365 guy, but we haven't been, and our last 2 managers (who relied on him) have been sacked.
Wrong.... This wouldn't even be a discussion if an ever depleting few wouldn't put their fetish for supposedly technically superior players ahead of acknowledging the
actual contribution of players (however rudimentary the latter may be). We've all seen this 'movie' before with Blakey/Sissoko..... Yours is not a fresh nor compelling take and your insistence on blaming a single player for our disfunction as a team is flagrant "bias" (irony!).....