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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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I stumbled upon an article by the guys at The Athletic earlier. The gist of it is that Kane was not for sale, full stop. It's a long read so I'm only posting a couple of excerpts.


First excerpt.

But the basic facts of the saga are as follows:
  • Levy was furious with the way Kane tried to bounce him into the move at the end of last season.
  • City offered five players in May and £75 million plus £25million of add-ons in June, then made no further bids.
  • They were prepared to pay a fixed £100 million plus £20-or-so million in add-ons, but Levy refused to negotiate.
  • Spurs fined Kane two weeks’ wages for delaying his return to pre-season training.
  • With the two clubs not talking since late July, the move had been dead for weeks despite Kane’s hopes.
Second excerpt.

If this was a defeat for Kane, it is also a win for Levy. He had been insistent all summer that Kane would not be sold, especially not to another Premier League club. Those close to Levy have always known that this was not a negotiating position, but a firm commitment.

Part of Levy’s position was coldly rational. He knew this would be a bad market in which to sell a top player, and that Tottenham would always be better off keeping Kane for at least one more year. By the end of next season, they would either have improved their situation enough to convince Kane to stay long-term, or they could sell him in a more buoyant market for at least as much as they were offered in 2021. The fact that City’s only cash bid for Kane was £75 million up front with another £25 million of add-ons has effectively proven Levy right. There was nothing to be gained from selling the striker this summer.

The other part of Levy’s insistence on keeping Kane was personal. He felt deeply affronted by the conduct of Kane and his family throughout this process, from the leaking of Kane’s desire to leave and that Neville interview right at the climax of Spurs’ season in late May, through to Kane’s unauthorised absence from pre-season training at the start of this month (which cost him two weeks’ wages). Levy saw this as a challenge to his authority, which made him even more keen not to get pushed around. Maybe with a more delicate approach, Kane might have succeeded, but Levy was insistent from early on that he would not be giving in.

Hard to imagine in all you research of this topic, you did not stumble across the hundreds of articles back in the summer that said part of the reason talks broke down was... "Conte wanted a guarantee that Harry Kane would not be sold"






or

IF Kane was to be sold, however, Conte wanted guarantees that at least part of the fee generated from the sale - likely to be in excess of £100 million ($141m) - would have been used to sign an adequate replacement.


We'll never know as the press is not exactly the best source of info, is it?

But I'm curious as to why you left these easy to find articles out... Did they not fit your narrative?
 
Conte walked away from us because we did not share his ambition. He said that at the time. It looks like we told him Kane was staying and there was little or no money available for a rebuild. And he said fuck this.

So what has changed? Is Lewis going to give us a massive cash donation or have we decided to try to sell Kane? It's going to be interesting. Kane is here, Conte is here and the squad is still terrible.

My guess is that Levy realized that he had to give a little more than he wants and has agreed to some of the demands that Conte wanted and also thinks that he can fool Conte into coming around to his view of transfers.

I know many will think this is sign that we will spend but my guess is that Levy is more likely to think he can convince Conte that his transfer way is the best rather than actually back Conte the way he should be.
 
For the time being (and if we’re trying to be optimistic), we can only assume that’s he’s been guaranteed significant spend. Fortunately, we’ll get a very clear idea of whether or not that’s the case in January. I also do not get the impression that this is dependent upon Kane being sold.
Uncle Joe coming good? It's going to be interesting.

I wonder if the Newcastle takeover spooked Levy?
 
Levy was supposedly enraged by the interview. This is part of the reason we didn't sell Kane; so that all the world would know the size of Daniel Levy's balls. He also thought we could get a better price next summer when Kane is even slower. Apparently.
It remains to be seen. If Harry leaves then i will probably conclude that your perspective was most likely.
 
Hard to imagine in all you research of this topic, you did not stumble across the hundreds of articles back in the summer that said part of the reason talks broke down was... "Conte wanted a guarantee that Harry Kane would not be sold"






or

IF Kane was to be sold, however, Conte wanted guarantees that at least part of the fee generated from the sale - likely to be in excess of £100 million ($141m) - would have been used to sign an adequate replacement.


We'll never know as the press is not exactly the best source of info, is it?

But I'm curious as to why you left these easy to find articles out... Did they not fit your narrative?

It’s hard to imagine Conte is still sitting there happy that Kane didn’t go to City and we went balls deep for Haaland

Conte is now realising his golden boy can’t actually play in the system he is implementing, which is why he has put him on the halfway line
 
Hard to imagine that Conte's plan to remake the squad was to sell one of the few talented players we have and not have close to the money to replace and him remake the team.

It seems much more likely that Conte said I want 150m to fill the massive holes we have on this team and Levy told him sure we will sell Kane to do that and Conte said if you sell Kane then I need 250m to replace Kane and the holes.

There really is zero reason to think that Conte wanted to sell Kane at all and many reasons to think the opposite. It is a very odd amount of leaps you are taking to create this narrative.
Conte seems to have suggested that he's looking longer term with this project. He knows he has a lot of work to do so for your perspective to have merit it would take a massive outlay from Uncle Joe. So you are suggesting that we will see a huge net spend of 150M next summer?
 
Conte seems to have suggested that he's looking longer term with this project. He knows he has a lot of work to do so for your perspective to have merit it would take a massive outlay from Uncle Joe. So you are suggesting that we will see a huge net spend of 150M next summer?

No my suggestion is that Conte will walk away in the summer, if not sooner.
 
Selling Kane but only using that money and not extra money does nothing to help Conte, because we are worse off selling Kane and using his money to buy replacement players. He doesn't bring in enough on his own to fix the team.
Are you suggesting we couldn't find a player that would complement certain things Conte wants to do where Harry can't? Because this seems to suggest that just because a person is good in 1 system they would be good in all systems/tactical setups. Surely, we can see that this is nonsense, right?

And surely we can find someone to convert more than 4% of their chances + be able to run. Are you saying that had we gotten enough for Vlahovic and a decent MFer we wouldn't be better off right now? Because if not then I assume you are saying that Vlahovic or any other striker wouldn't have more than 1 league goal AND that all of the goals that Harry has scored this season were due to his singular brilliance. Basically what I'm saying is that you'd be tacitly saying a lot of things.
 
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Conte is now realising his golden boy can’t actually play in the system he is implementing, which is why he has put him on the halfway line
This is something I've been wondering about. During the Euros, Conte said you don't want Kane fannying around in midfield. Well, Conte's here and Kane is kind of...fannying around in midfield. Is Kane defying orders or has Conte come to the conclusion that Kane isn't quite up to the task of spearheading our attack?
 
No my suggestion is that Conte will walk away in the summer, if not sooner.
What would be the reasoning behind that? If he walks that suggests he's not getting the backing he was promised. If after that Kane is retained it would also suggest that this would be an outcome to which Conte was opposed. Which brings us back to RESPECT THE COCK RESPECT THE COCK 's point.
 
Are you suggesting we could find a player that would complement certain things Conte wants to do where Harry can't? Because this seems to suggest that just because a person is good in 1 system they would be good in all systems/tactical setups. Surely, we can see that this is nonsense, right?

I doubt that is the case. I think players like Kane can be successful in any system because they are talented and well rounded so their skill will translate. Obviously there will be systems that work better for him than others but Kane can work in any system.


And surely we can find someone to convert more than 4% of their chances + be able to run. Are you saying that had we gotten enough for Vlahovic and a decent MFer we wouldn't be better off right now? Because if not then I assume you are saying that Vlahovic or any other striker wouldn't have more than 1 league goal AND that all of the goals that Harry has scored this season were due to his singular brilliance. Basically what I'm saying is that you'd be tacitly saying a lot of things.

I think it is possible that we could be better off with Vlahovic and a decent MFer, but I have little to no confidence that we would have bought that MFer. We also would have been better off with Kane and that MFer or Kane and Vlahovic and that MFer so I would go that route if we are actually trying to compete.
 
This is something I've been wondering about. During the Euros, Conte said you don't want Kane fannying around in midfield. Well, Conte's here and Kane is kind of...fannying around in midfield. Is Kane defying orders or has Conte come to the conclusion that Kane isn't quite up to the task of spearheading our attack?
Interesting, I didn’t know he made that point.
Doubt Kane is defying orders, more like he’s just not up to the job in a system that requires intensity.

Either Conte has seen this and adjusted, or Kane is just struggling to keep up.

Either way, not a good look
 
What would be the reasoning behind that? If he walks that suggests he's not getting the backing he was promised. If after that Kane is retained it would also suggest that this would be an outcome to which Conte was opposed. Which brings us back to RESPECT THE COCK RESPECT THE COCK 's point.

Because I don't think that Conte will get the backing he was promised.

It would not suggest that keeping Kane was something that Conte was opposed at all.

So again Five's point has zero merit at all.
 
This is something I've been wondering about. During the Euros, Conte said you don't want Kane fannying around in midfield. Well, Conte's here and Kane is kind of...fannying around in midfield. Is Kane defying orders or has Conte come to the conclusion that Kane isn't quite up to the task of spearheading our attack?

Or is it neither and Conte realizes we have no MF so that Kane has to drop back into MF.
 
Interesting, I didn’t know he made that point.
Doubt Kane is defying orders, more like he’s just not up to the job in a system that requires intensity.

Either Conte has seen this and adjusted, or Kane is just struggling to keep up.

Either way, not a good look
"Many praise Harry Kane for his ability to go get the ball and play with the team, such as with the equaliser against Denmark," said Conte during his work as a pundit during Euro 2020.

"Of course, he’s good at that too, but it’s in the box where he’s clinical and as a coach, I would always keep him in there because he’s devastating."


 
It’s hard to imagine Conte is still sitting there happy that Kane didn’t go to City and we went balls deep for Haaland

Conte is now realising his golden boy can’t actually play in the system he is implementing, which is why he has put him on the halfway line

You really do come out with some absolute nuggets here.

I'm gonna start calling you Frank, after Frank Spencer.
 
Or is it neither and Conte realizes we have no MF so that Kane has to drop back into MF.
Well not really…….

"Of course, he’s good at that too, but it’s in the box where he’s clinical and as a coach, I would always keep him in there because he’s devastating."

As you can see, Conte has realised Kane isn’t clinical and devastating and is a waste of space up top

Why would he put our only striker in midfield if he still rated him highly?

Kane has one assist. Same as Moura and Hojberg.

Kane has created 4 big chances in 14 games.
 
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