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Not bad. Keeping a low profile since getting a yellow warning for calling out a couple of childish posters who were throwing disgusting Gooner and Sol Campbell accusations around. So I'll chat more in a couple of weeks.

Good to see you back anyway, yiddo

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I'm not arguing with you just pointing out the small error in your valuation - bring in new money and the valuation usually goes up way more than the cash amount. (It's why you do it)

Liverpool have gone from 1.5b to 4.1b according to Forbes .... sure that's a result of their success .... but it's also due to the 550m of new funding they raised.

A partner coming in for 10-15-20% would be fantastic - but they would be silent partners with no say - just as Liverpool's are. Very happy indeed.

If Spurs enterprise value is currently £3bn including £700m of debt then equity value is £2.3bn.

If a 10% placing brings in £250k to £300k then the equity value rises to £2.55 to £2.85 bn.

So not sure what the error in the calculation is ? Genuine question

Although you could say I'm expecting the new 10% shareholder to bring something to the table, other than cash, with extra commercial income from somewhere to arrive at the upper end of the £250m to £300m value of the placing, which is true, I am hoping that.
 
Not bad. Keeping a low profile since getting a yellow warning for calling out a couple of posters for throwing disgusting childish Gooner and Sol Campbell accusations around. So I'll chat more in a couple of weeks.

Good to see you back anyway, yiddo

:dierpochhug:
Isn't shocking how people, from all sides of various divides, throw out disgusting childish insults at people.
It's like people actually believe that we don't all want what's best for THFC and that some of us aren't "pwoper fans".

It's almost as if they can't have a proper debate, oh hum.
 
Isn't shocking how people, from all sides of various divides, throw out disgusting childish insults at people.
It's like people actually believe that we don't all want what's best for THFC and that some of us aren't "pwoper fans".

It's almost as if they can't have a proper debate, oh hum.
Only a paid up Hitchen bot would say that:contefacepalm:
 
surely THL should be putting away (investing ) £20-30M each year to cover the £ 0.7BN in bonds that needs paying off in 20 years, yes by then you would expect £0.7BN not to be "worth less that now" but it has to be paid off

In Spurs current situation, I would suggest that for the next 2-4 years they invest as much as they can in players (which is good for ENIC too as if they choose the right players its greater chance of CL, commercial sponsorship etc enhances the capital value of the club) and after that start to put away money to pay off bonds.

In addition, it would not surprise me if Spurs developed the flats and potential hotel etc (with the property development funded by bank debt and/or by a JV partner) that they own and use the proceeds (including a healthy profit on the property development) to help pay off the bonds, including possibly buying back some bonds earlier than their redemption date. Although with the low interest rates carried by bonds it might be tempting to keep the bonds and re-invest cash somewhere else to generate further profits.
 
Isn't shocking how people, from all sides of various divides, throw out disgusting childish insults at people.
It's like people actually believe that we don't all want what's best for THFC and that some of us aren't "pwoper fans".

It's almost as if they can't have a proper debate, oh hum.
It certainly is!!

Nailed it mate
 
460M, to 400M to 360M in the last three years! Any PLC would frogmarch out the CEO for such incompetence. Chelsea recenue flat so don’t blame Covid, this is on Levy
I didn't know that, cheers.

Are all the other clubs revenue drops on Levy too ?


"This is the first time that Premier League clubs have cumulatively reported a year-on-year fall in revenue."
 
I didn't know that, cheers.

Are all the other clubs revenue drops on Levy too ?


"This is the first time that Premier League clubs have cumulatively reported a year-on-year fall in revenue."
The issue is we have no path back to 460, let alone exceeding it.

Which makes good sense of ENIC at least casting an eye toward the exit door.
 
The issue is we have no path back to 460, let alone exceeding it.

Which makes good sense of ENIC at least casting an eye toward the exit door.
I don't agree with that.
We're in with a shot of CL qualification, which is worth £60 -100m, we still haven't had a full season of attendences in the new stadium and we've all the extra events lined up.

Whether we will get, or should get CL and who's to blame/praise for that is a separate argument but there is definitely a path to get back to the revenues we previously had.
Unless if course we never qualify for the CL again, which I suppose is a possibility.
 
Probably not when there is an incompetent CEO and the clubs revenue is tanking year on year…. He should have sought investment five years ago from a position of strength

One dimensional, BTEC accountant
Club's revenue tanking - you're an idiot - tell you what I'll bet you 20 quid to any charity you want that club revenue goes up this season ..... come on put your money behind your nonsense.
 
The issue is we have no path back to 460, let alone exceeding it.

Which makes good sense of ENIC at least casting an eye toward the exit door.
I'm confused. Match receipts are down year over year by over 90m, due to Covid.

Get butts back in the seats and we're almost back to 460m right there, no Champion's League final necessary.

Honestly, sometimes the hysteria on this forum is a bit much.
 
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